Originally posted by uranushk1:
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Yes, because we won against the Barcodes and we had our best overall display in EPL this season, so we really hope we can keep a winning team. And if you're bored why you're still reading this thread?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Why? it was fun reading your continuous babbling against Murt
Originally posted by pjaya:
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Why? it was fun reading your continuous babbling against Murt
No, I'm just try to reasoning with Murt. Unlike Weaste, who has got on fire and lost his calm today
uranushk1 and others (yes that includes you Neil) like to read far too much into things.
In fact, it's hilarious.
The same team will probably get hammered the next time, and then they will come up with some excuse as to why this didn't work, and that didn't work, and SAF made this wrong decision and that wrong decision.
Tossers the lot of them!
They really have it in their heads that they are better managers than SAF himself.
How sad can you get?
In fact, it's hilarious.
The same team will probably get hammered the next time, and then they will come up with some excuse as to why this didn't work, and that didn't work, and SAF made this wrong decision and that wrong decision.
Tossers the lot of them!
They really have it in their heads that they are better managers than SAF himself.
How sad can you get?
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
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They really have it in their heads that they are better managers than SAF himself.
How sad can you get?</strong><hr></blockquote>
I think most of them take the "Championship manager" game seriously
Originally posted by uranushk1:
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No, I'm just try to reasoning with Murt. Unlike Weaste, who has got on fire and lost his calm today
Calm, calm? I've got no calm when we win 5-3 and yet people like you have to drag up our shotcomings!
FFS, be happy, celebrate, it's not hard, go and buy a bottle of whiskey or something, smoke a joint, be happy that we won the best EPL game of the season when at the same time our rivals both lost.
God man, stop moaning for a week at least. Today was a good day.
Enjoy watching your football instead of watching it to make analysis of every part.
Go and play a computer game FFS!
I'm elated today! Yet you are miserable? <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />
he's not shite, but he's not suited to the english game.
Originally posted by Murt:
<strong>Or go check how many goals, assists and mom performances he has gotten in Europe this season.
Or what % of succesful passes he has in Europe (nr 1 in Europe for those uninformed).
Compare his performances with any of our midfielders this season and youll find that only Scholes has bettered him. But hes foreign and expensive so lets blamb him for everything.
So are you saying that that Keano and Seba are a better combo than Keano and Scholes, check your stats again before answering.
The problem is not Veron's nationality, it is his lack of pace, willingness to tackle back, and his obsession with playing playing the 50 yd pass (see D Irwin), and the fact that in the most physical league in the world he isn't prepared to get stuck in.Apart from that he is class (didn't he have a good world cup- I think not)
Veron is crap!!!
Anyone that disagrees and is called Weaste, is a muppet
Have we sold half the club yet?
Anyone that disagrees and is called Weaste, is a muppet
Have we sold half the club yet?
veron is a world class player.
but scholes is better imho. scholeys our playmaker and he's world class in his own right.
its crazy to play scholes anywhere but CM as from there he is the pivot of our side.
we should give paul the role he wants first priority. veron can fill in on the right and compete for his place in CM but scholes is the man for my onion.
but scholes is better imho. scholeys our playmaker and he's world class in his own right.
its crazy to play scholes anywhere but CM as from there he is the pivot of our side.
we should give paul the role he wants first priority. veron can fill in on the right and compete for his place in CM but scholes is the man for my onion.
i think Veron having been on the bench was good for him.
was it the first time he started on the bench?
he finally get to see us play our flowing passing and maybe now he'll get how to play the EPL. his long passes may get us goals once in a while, but surely they're not winning us games.
what a coincidence, we score 5 goals the moment Veron doesn't play in the EPL.. even with 5 first team players out. or maybe it wasn't coincidence?
was it the first time he started on the bench?
he finally get to see us play our flowing passing and maybe now he'll get how to play the EPL. his long passes may get us goals once in a while, but surely they're not winning us games.
what a coincidence, we score 5 goals the moment Veron doesn't play in the EPL.. even with 5 first team players out. or maybe it wasn't coincidence?
I LOVE SEBA VERON FOR ASLONG AS HE IS A RED... SUPPORT HIM OR FECK OFF!
Originally posted by giggzy:
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was it a coincidence, that they were shit at the back? was it a coincidence that we played with width thus got 5 goals?
the whole team played better, we were hungery..
on this performance would becks or veron get back in PL team? i think not.</strong><hr></blockquote>
hahaha, maybe keane shouldn't either.
i say we shouldn't mess with the team just yet, this set of 11 seems to click.
Originally posted by RUnited:
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hahaha, maybe keane shouldn't either.
i say we shouldn't mess with the team just yet, this set of 11 seems to click.</strong><hr></blockquote>
keane? must be joking, he's our best player.
the fact of the matter is, you've not seen the game, yet are jumping to conclusions.
i would not want to take ole out of the team, he played excellent yesterday and did a better job than Becks has done for ages on the right.. the biggest shock was he stayed on the right and gave us width!!!!!!
Originally posted by giggzy:
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keane? must be joking, he's our best player.
the fact of the matter is, you've not seen the game, yet are jumping to conclusions.
i would not want to take ole out of the team, he played excellent yesterday and did a better job than Becks has done for ages on the right.. the biggest shock was he stayed on the right and gave us width!!!!!!
i'm not jumping to conclusions.. and i didn't mean it about keane, i was joking!
altho it seems to be a general consensus that we did well without veron.. and the game flowed again.. our defence has looked solid all season whoever played, so i'm not worried about it. but the offence is getting critical so i was just wondering.
about ole, it now seems quite apparent that we do really well with 4-4-2 where the wings stay out wide.. if Ole can do a good job there then so can Becks!
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
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You're talking out of your arse again Neil, go back and play with championship manager. Then you can carry on imagining that your analysis and conclusions are correct and better than SAFs.</strong><hr></blockquote>
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innit.
btw the neil: you have not named me three GREAT midfielders you could get for 18m?(verons current price??)
Unranshthingy: name me great european clubs that play with a 4-4-2 formation... (u forgot to
Tell that to Stuart Pearson too.
That's the problem with Neil et al. They get their opinions from the analysis of others, but have no capacity to think for themselves.
Giggzy has asked two of them quite valid questions, yet neither can provide an answer.
Giggzy has asked two of them quite valid questions, yet neither can provide an answer.
uranushk1 and others (yes that includes you Neil) like to read far too much into things.
In fact, it's hilarious.
The same team will probably get hammered the next time, and then they will come up with some excuse as to why this didn't work, and that didn't work, and SAF made this wrong decision and that wrong decision.
Tossers the lot of them!
They really have it in their heads that they are better managers than SAF himself.
How sad can you get?
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Weastey, I admire your confidence and your faith in SAF abilities, however, it is a fact of life that nobody is perfect.
SAF is not God, he, like the rest of us, is someone that makes mistakes, and I believe he has made a few this season. He is not beyond reproach, UTD fans can criticise the manager and not be "muppets" by definition.
If we take Veron as a case in point, I believe he did make a mistake, as has been proven on the pitch, although a player of world class ability, he was not what we needed and we are now paying the price through a lack of depth in our squad.
SAF's transfer dealings have been our achilles heal this season, nobody can deny it, we lost 2 stikers and a defender and gained 1 midfield player and a defender. We are short of fire power.
All of this is elementary at the moment, as we are still in touch with the Prem leaders, still have the January transfer window, and have great players fit again in the coming weeks.
At the moment I am optomistic, however, if we come up short in the coming month through lack of firepower, I will lay the blame squarely on SAF and his transfer dealings. Does that make me a muppet? If so, I want to be the Swedish chef chappy.
Long live the REDS
I answered it twice, in the original thread. Your views are notably in the minority on almost every issue, you're explanation of this is that its because we're all influenced by other's views, while yours are uninformed, without analysis, and different in public as to private.
Stuart Pearson. <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
nor Andy Grays opinions.
hence why he never made it as an assistant at Villa, i suppose.
hence why he never made it as an assistant at Villa, i suppose.
vincente couldnt get in the team ahead of kily
its all promise with him along with Joaquin
this is what pisses me off most about people they see a player play once hear the hype then buy into it
its all promise with him along with Joaquin
this is what pisses me off most about people they see a player play once hear the hype then buy into it