Pretty much. Millennial hipster interrogation.
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Pretty much. Millennial hipster interrogation.
you're the one who championed yourself as the expert and attacked those who didn't agree with you. So now it's 'don't listen to me, I don't know nuthin'?"See, that's your problem. Just like white supremacists and republicans live in their own little bubble...those of us living on the coasts (east or west) also live in our own little bubble. Apparently, there is a whole other America, which doesn't quite feel the same way and are suffering from 'economic anxiety'
Because as we all know - Kansas is a very popular destination for Illegal Immigrants
I did, in the sense that my candidate won more votes. The trouble here is that there were people who visited the thread to have their anxieties soothed by comforting views that Hillary was a sure bet to win.
Really ? Care to find the post where I championed myself as an "expert" ?
Na bro, you're way way more optimistic than me
See, that's your problem. Just like white supremacists and republicans live in their own little bubble...those of us living on the coasts (east or west) also live in our own little bubble. Apparently, there is a whole other America, which doesn't quite feel the same way and are suffering from 'economic anxiety'
Because as we all know - Kansas is a very popular destination for Illegal Immigrants
My point being, I fail to see why this should be accepted as way of life. For me immigration must be carefully controlled, esp as it has implications from unemployment to domestic security to ensuring basic human rights for those immigrating. If there really is a market in US for low wage jobs, then maybe Govt must introduce a new visa type to cater to those.
I would tackle the problem in two phases: (1) to ensure that new illegal immigration is stopped/curtailed as much as possible and (2) old illegal immigrants who have been year for years. Point 1 should be simple enforcement, where Point 2 is more complex with steps to ensure they get assimilated into system and legalized with only the real criminal elements getting the boot. The mass deportation stuff is nonsense.
But then, I still find it hard to grasp the problem conceptually.
Na bro, you're way way more optimistic than me
We both called it for Trump, along with @Americano I don't recall anyone else here making that (100% correct) call. People should listen to us more!
(And optimistic is not how I'd describe myself, I'm in the camp that sees these things in terms of a flow of action<>reaction).
Enforcement is up -
Obama from 2009 to Jan 2016 deported 2.5mil people. That's 25% more than Bush.
And when his final tally is done, he'll have deported more than any president from 1892 to Bush!
But, this runs counter to the fear mongering of the the Far Right..no, wait, the Far-Right is the Right now.
Trump has done a masterful job in giving the people a specific target for their gripes. "Oh, you are unemployed...it must be the Chinese and Mexicans. Oh, you are scared of the shootings, it must be the Muslims"
Apparently, he may give a job to Clare Lopez, who comes across as somewhat deranged.
I want him to go full on crazy....
Saah Palin for Sec of Education - or better yet, he should get rid of the Department of Education (like he said he would at one stage).
Someone that would know.
the only thing i disagree with is the use of the word "somewhat"
Yep. Cause and effect, it needs to be seen not only on the individual micro level but the macro as well.
Did you call Trump winning Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, and Florida ? If so that's quite impressive. If not then it was just a punt, since Hillary won over a million more votes than Trump, which sort of undercuts the populist/Brexit hypothesis. If this was an up or down popular vote like Brexit was then Hillary would be President.
Neither side likes the bring that up because it does not make Obama look like the progressive he is painted as and because it does not fit into the soft label Republicans try to put on him.
Relax @Raoul, I wasn't being serious, my prediction did after all come with the caveat that I don't know much about American domestic politics (seems like that was an asset this time around though).
He offset that with things like DACA not to mention, a lot of this is about tonality and optics.
Most sane people regardless of political affiliation should be against illegal immigration.
I'm quite relaxed. Just making a point that the blanket comparison to Brexit or populism sweeping the globe was not entirely applicable to the popular vote results in the US.
Yeah, he's an odious little fecking bigot & homophobe to boot.
We didn't necessarily mean that we knew how the individual states would vote, I mean we're Brits after all (one of the reasons so many took your opinions to be gospel), what we've both been saying is that the whole world has been moving to the right of the political spectrum alot more than Joe average cares to notice or admit.
I refresh the spreadsheet at least 20 times a day1.4mil and counting
Not that I'm obsessed or can't let go...Well since Brexit's another question I'm not very clued up on, I'll defer to you there.
I've never argued that populism is 'sweeping the globe', but there is an obvious global pattern right now of strongman populist nationalist leaders with genuine mass support coming to or maintaining themselves in power - Putin, Modi, Erdogan, Duterte, Netanyahu to a certain extent, etc. This doesn't mean that Russia, India, Turkey, Philippines and Israel aren't extremely internally divided, nor does it mean that this type of leader is somehow destined to prevail everywhere. It's just a reflection of this very particular moment of history we're living in where guys like these seem to know what it takes to win, and it'll be a few years before the reaction against them kicks in as it surely will.
Cali still had 3mil votes to be counted a couple of days agoI refresh the spreadsheet at least 20 times a day
I'm actually over it. I hated Hillary - voted for her because a non vote/third party vote or a write in was in effect a vote for Trump.
1.4mil and counting
I refresh the spreadsheet at least 20 times a day
HRC won by 2.5m votes in California alone, so in the rest of the entire USA she is actually behind by 1.1m.....lol
Why do so many Americans care about one state so much?
? You're not British?Well since Brexit's another question I'm not very clued up on, I'll defer to you there.
I've never argued that populism is 'sweeping the globe', but there is an obvious global pattern right now of strongman populist nationalist leaders with genuine mass support coming to or maintaining themselves in power - Putin, Modi, Erdogan, Duterte, Netanyahu to a certain extent, etc. This doesn't mean that Russia, India, Turkey, Philippines and Israel aren't extremely internally divided, nor does it mean that this type of leader is somehow destined to prevail everywhere. It's just a reflection of this very particular moment of history we're living in where guys like these seem to know what it takes to win, and it'll be a few years before the reaction against them kicks in as it surely will.
It's almost like it's a massive population centre, which tend to vote Democratic.
Can we ignore all the ex-confederate states and tally up the electoral votes without those?
? You're not British?
Irish, but I'm dividing my time between the two islands these days.
Ah shit mate, I'm so sorry for the insult...
Well, yes, eliminating the biggest state which inhabits a considerable portion of America's population will tend to change the result.
All states count in the final equation.
Well this took a weird turn
Ha it's no insult at all, easy mistake to make and I'm not one to give a shite about historical bitterness. Plus I actually love being in the UK when I'm there.
The complexities of guarding the border against illegal immigrants
Full Article: https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...9-11e6-8f19-21a1c65d2043_story.html?tid=sm_tw
Full Article: https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...9-11e6-8f19-21a1c65d2043_story.html?tid=sm_tw
Does Trump understand that his experience as a businessman - that he can do whatever he wants, declare bankruptcy and then walk away - is not going to work for the US? I wonder if he thinks defaulting on the US debt is this amazing idea he had that nobody else had ever considered, that is going to magically allow him to wipe the financial slate clean and start again, without any serious implications?
It sounds ludicrous but there is part of me that thinks that really might be his masterplan.
It sounds ludicrous but there is part of me that thinks that really might be his masterplan.
Mike Huckabee is new U.S ambassador to Israel according to the Daily Mail.
Moving Embassy to Jerusalem.
Big decision.
Moving Embassy to Jerusalem.
Big decision.
Clinton would be bad for the Middle East they said...
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