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Ah I thought you said you were a republican.

What??? Many moons ago I used to argue with LABob about politics but I didn't know shit then. Granted, I was your typical GOP supporter in those days. I've done nothing but smash the GOP on this forum for the past six or seven years.

Should add I voted for Obama in 2012 and Clinton in 2016, and didn't vote in 2008.
 
I really really hope he wont make it out of this year let alone his first term.
I hope he is dumped tomorrow but there are things happening which indicate he will do 2 terms.
I was one of the few who said he would win before the election, nothing I am seeing suggests he wont win a second term, even this far from the next elections. US job creation numbers have hit a high within a short space of him being elected and Wall street is excited about the high chance the Fed is going to increase interest rates. The big problem is the US is a highly nationalistic country and Trump will retain votes because it appears he is growing employment numbers and the business community is prospering. The blue collar workers will believe that Trump has delivered on promises and the business community will enjoy the fact their side of things has the appearance of prospering. Trumps line about looking out for Pittsburg and not Paris will resonate with those who voted for him and for those who are easily manipulated by nationalistic/patriotic propaganda.
Its a long way out but if we view things from the eyes of those who voted for them and the undecided in the areas where elections are truely won he is ticking boxes. I cant remember which President said it, think it was Clinton but the phrase " Its the economy stupid" is a frighteningly simple vote winner.
 
:lol: A few hundred?
US imports more from France than exports so France will have more to lose than US, I see another trade war coming soon.
The US imports more then it exports from pretty much every country that isn't a desert. And strangely the Netherlands. (Ok and a few S.American countries).
https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/statistics/highlights/toppartners.html

At some point even trumpites will realize that what they call unfair imports is actually what George Carlin used to describe as stuff.
 
Creepy. Drumpf called Kimberly Guilfoyle this morning to get her thoughts on climate change.



 
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I hope he is dumped tomorrow but there are things happening which indicate he will do 2 terms.
I was one of the few who said he would win before the election, nothing I am seeing suggests he wont win a second term, even this far from the next elections. US job creation numbers have hit a high within a short space of him being elected and Wall street is excited about the high chance the Fed is going to increase interest rates. The big problem is the US is a highly nationalistic country and Trump will retain votes because it appears he is growing employment numbers and the business community is prospering. The blue collar workers will believe that Trump has delivered on promises and the business community will enjoy the fact their side of things has the appearance of prospering. Trumps line about looking out for Pittsburg and not Paris will resonate with those who voted for him and for those who are easily manipulated by nationalistic/patriotic propaganda.
Its a long way out but if we view things from the eyes of those who voted for them and the undecided in the areas where elections are truely won he is ticking boxes. I cant remember which President said it, think it was Clinton but the phrase " Its the economy stupid" is a frighteningly simple vote winner.
A few months ago a second term seemed likely, but his approval ratings show eroding support from people supporting him which likely call themselves 'moderates.' Add in the fear of going along with him down that slide among gophers up for reelection in the mid-terms, and there's a potential deadlock in Congress and 45 not being able to deliver on big promises.

2018 may not prove to be as revolutionary as Dems hope, but its shadow looms large over 2020.
 
I hope he is dumped tomorrow but there are things happening which indicate he will do 2 terms.
I was one of the few who said he would win before the election, nothing I am seeing suggests he wont win a second term, even this far from the next elections. US job creation numbers have hit a high within a short space of him being elected and Wall street is excited about the high chance the Fed is going to increase interest rates. The big problem is the US is a highly nationalistic country and Trump will retain votes because it appears he is growing employment numbers and the business community is prospering. The blue collar workers will believe that Trump has delivered on promises and the business community will enjoy the fact their side of things has the appearance of prospering. Trumps line about looking out for Pittsburg and not Paris will resonate with those who voted for him and for those who are easily manipulated by nationalistic/patriotic propaganda.
Its a long way out but if we view things from the eyes of those who voted for them and the undecided in the areas where elections are truely won he is ticking boxes. I cant remember which President said it, think it was Clinton but the phrase " Its the economy stupid" is a frighteningly simple vote winner.

This is probably fair. What we've been doing all along is overestimating the electoral power of urban youths and minorities.
 
I hope he is dumped tomorrow but there are things happening which indicate he will do 2 terms.
I was one of the few who said he would win before the election, nothing I am seeing suggests he wont win a second term, even this far from the next elections. US job creation numbers have hit a high within a short space of him being elected and Wall street is excited about the high chance the Fed is going to increase interest rates. The big problem is the US is a highly nationalistic country and Trump will retain votes because it appears he is growing employment numbers and the business community is prospering. The blue collar workers will believe that Trump has delivered on promises and the business community will enjoy the fact their side of things has the appearance of prospering. Trumps line about looking out for Pittsburg and not Paris will resonate with those who voted for him and for those who are easily manipulated by nationalistic/patriotic propaganda.
Its a long way out but if we view things from the eyes of those who voted for them and the undecided in the areas where elections are truely won he is ticking boxes. I cant remember which President said it, think it was Clinton but the phrase " Its the economy stupid" is a frighteningly simple vote winner.
I don't think he will have 2 terms, he's a man that's used to do things his way and now and in politics we know that doesn't work that way.
 
I hope he is dumped tomorrow but there are things happening which indicate he will do 2 terms.
I was one of the few who said he would win before the election, nothing I am seeing suggests he wont win a second term, even this far from the next elections. US job creation numbers have hit a high within a short space of him being elected and Wall street is excited about the high chance the Fed is going to increase interest rates. The big problem is the US is a highly nationalistic country and Trump will retain votes because it appears he is growing employment numbers and the business community is prospering. The blue collar workers will believe that Trump has delivered on promises and the business community will enjoy the fact their side of things has the appearance of prospering. Trumps line about looking out for Pittsburg and not Paris will resonate with those who voted for him and for those who are easily manipulated by nationalistic/patriotic propaganda.
Its a long way out but if we view things from the eyes of those who voted for them and the undecided in the areas where elections are truely won he is ticking boxes. I cant remember which President said it, think it was Clinton but the phrase " Its the economy stupid" is a frighteningly simple vote winner.
The effects of a new president on job creation (and the economy in general) can't be seen in 4 months. You have to wait at least 6 months.

Net job creation in the US was robust for few years. Nothing unusual so far.

I do agree, however, that "it's the economy stupid".

Trump won PA, WI and MI by 1% or less. These can shift.
 
The US imports more then it exports from pretty much every country that isn't a desert. And strangely the Netherlands. (Ok and a few S.American countries).
https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/statistics/highlights/toppartners.html

At some point even trumpites will realize that what they call unfair imports is actually what George Carlin used to describe as stuff.
The only unfair imports are from countries with high bureaucracy -china and Japan and any country the governments are involved using the tax money to lower prices.
 
A few months ago a second term seemed likely, but his approval ratings show eroding support from people supporting him which likely call themselves 'moderates.' Add in the fear of going along with him down that slide among gophers up for reelection in the mid-terms, and there's a potential deadlock in Congress and 45 not being able to deliver on big promises.

2018 may not prove to be as revolutionary as Dems hope, but its shadow looms large over 2020.
I think the last election showed us that approval ratings mean nothing with respect to Trump and who votes for him. Using those as a guide to how things are going ignores some of the fundamentals of who voted for him and more importantly why. The key factors will be jobs, the economy and the seige mentality towards the reaction to Americans first type policy. The more the world howls the more Trump will engage nationalistic themes to draw in voters who voted for him the first time and those who were on the fence. That patriotism and "America feck Yeah" nationalism are very strong motivators.

The most important thing I think is to set aside what we would like to see happen, why we would like to see it happen and try and view things from the eyes of those who voted for him or might have been swayed to vote for him.
 
I think he may have called to get her thoughts on something else

Same way he used to call Megyn Kelly to get her thoughts on various things. Seems being an obese, 71 year old POTUS is no problem in terms of randomly calling women to hit on them.
 
If things go south, then they will care in 2020. If the economy does well, then he may win re-election because of that not because of the first 5 months.

Precisely. Russia doesn't matter, healthcare doesn't matter, climate change doesn't matter. As long as he is 'sticking it to the liberal elites' and the economy doesn't tank, he stays Teflon.
 
Question to one of Merkel's closest aides by German journo on TV:
'Almost everybody acknowledges current climate change is real and man-made, with the exception of the GOP. Why is that, are they more stupid?'

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I think the last election showed us that approval ratings mean nothing with respect to Trump and who votes for him. Using those as a guide to how things are going ignores some of the fundamentals of who voted for him and more importantly why. The key factors will be jobs, the economy and the seige mentality towards the reaction to Americans first type policy. The more the world howls the more Trump will engage nationalistic themes to draw in voters who voted for him the first time and those who were on the fence. That patriotism and "America feck Yeah" nationalism are very strong motivators.

The most important thing I think is to set aside what we would like to see happen, why we would like to see it happen and try and view things from the eyes of those who voted for him or might have been swayed to vote for him.
It's not about what we would like to see happen, it's putting faith in the selfishness of the GOP to try to stay in power where their seats are up for grabs. If enough fuss is raised against the AHCA redux, then they will vote in their own interests, and if it's not draconian enough for them to be against it the hard right will block it.

This confluence of opposing agendas within the gophers would block significant movement of other campaign promises through Congress. And McConnell, who is very good at leading the GOP in Congress even if he's despicable, cares more about staying in power than he does about Trump.

I'm not putting my faith in impeachment, but the talk of 2020 being a foregone conclusion is premature.
 
I hope he is dumped tomorrow but there are things happening which indicate he will do 2 terms.
I was one of the few who said he would win before the election, nothing I am seeing suggests he wont win a second term, even this far from the next elections. US job creation numbers have hit a high within a short space of him being elected and Wall street is excited about the high chance the Fed is going to increase interest rates. The big problem is the US is a highly nationalistic country and Trump will retain votes because it appears he is growing employment numbers and the business community is prospering. The blue collar workers will believe that Trump has delivered on promises and the business community will enjoy the fact their side of things has the appearance of prospering. Trumps line about looking out for Pittsburg and not Paris will resonate with those who voted for him and for those who are easily manipulated by nationalistic/patriotic propaganda.
Its a long way out but if we view things from the eyes of those who voted for them and the undecided in the areas where elections are truely won he is ticking boxes. I cant remember which President said it, think it was Clinton but the phrase " Its the economy stupid" is a frighteningly simple vote winner.

His numbers are quite atrocious right now - but
1. no viable challenger is better, the Dem party itself is less positively seen than him
2. with time comes normalisation (in theory)
3. the economy shows no signs of slowing down AFAIK
So I think you're partly correct - but re-election on these numbers will be as historically unprecedented as election on his favourability numbers. There are 2-3 ways to counter this - try and win back the few 100k voters that flipped from Obama to him in swing states and won him the election; try to increase turnout among minorities/poor; try to win over suburban Republicans by appealing to the dignity of the office. Dems seem to be trying the 3rd, in continuation of Hillary's campaign policy.
 
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