I believe in your good faith and openness to have an honest discussion and listen to opposing views. Only it's an open thread and most of the posts I read here are very hostile to anyone to thinks differently. Therefore by its natural structure and build, this thread just can't have real debate, as people like me are scared off from discussing here or simply discouraged from even lurking.
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I believe in your good faith and openness to have an honest discussion and listen to opposing views. Only it's an open thread and most of the posts I read here are very hostile to anyone to thinks differently. Therefore by its natural structure and build, this thread just can't have real debate, as people like me are scared off from discussing here or simply discouraged from even lurking.
Educate us.
From what I can tell Obama/Hillary/the democratic party represents corruption of the highest order, your standard government that everyone mistrusts and feels utter paranoia because they're spying on every move that the populace makes.
From what I can tell, despite being personally responsible for tonnes and tonnes of death and destruction, Obama wasn't 'strong enough' for the right and especially not Trump supporters. He didn't wave the flag and project the US's greatness over the rest of the world and that's not good enough for American citizens. The fact that the rest of the world sort of see him as a decent President (from what I can gather at least) in spite of the drone strikes and other stuff suggests to me Obama was alright.
Despite Trump being a purported billionaire, he doesn't to Trump supporters represent the 1% because they only associate that elite with your common politician and thus we're back to corruption. Despite Donald clearly having innumerable ties in one string or another to exceptionally shady people and deals, he's not corrupt because he's a successful businessman and not a politician.
Hillary is an immensely dislikable person, she exudes the slime that we associate with people we don't trust. The fact that she's a woman doesn't sit well with old, white Republicans either. Many people that voted for Trump voted against Hillary and I don't blame them.
Trump and his campaign team know that deep inside every American is a bald headed eagle shitting the stars and stripes, invading other countries because they've got the strongest military and they've got God on your side and thus American = the best nation ever and so they tailored their campaign to suit this exact person. More got swept up in it feeling like they were taking it to 'the man' (albeit in this case, the woman) and then before long the fire was burning and rampant patriotism ruled the 50 states. That is Trump's election.
Where are the rational Republicans? Or are they just staying quiet?
*ETA It's fun making sweeping generalisations.
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This thread can have real debate - the central issue is that Trump supporters on here aren't able to justify things like why his party are correct to try and enact healthcare legislation which may quite literally result in Americans dying (and may is quite light a description) and why we shouldn't be condemning a President who gets bored reading documents when they don't mention his name often enough. Anyone who wants to mount a decent defence of Trump is free to do so.
Thanks for the kind words @langster
Pretty sure there's a lot of posters that think that way buddy.
You're gonna make me blush
I don't think that there's a link yet, but Mueller has been briefed on Comey's memos per CNN
Also...
Flynn apparently lied during his security clearance interview
http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/22/politics/house-oversight-committee-flynn-letter/index.html
Also...
Flynn apparently lied during his security clearance interview
http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/22/politics/house-oversight-committee-flynn-letter/index.html
Washington Post: Trump asked Intel chiefs to dispute FBI on Russia Probe
Not me, you are an asshole in my opinion.
God bless memos. 
Saying that people are angry at Trump supporters for thinking differently is understating the differences. They either have a completely different morality or live in an alternative universe.
You too you devoner
Tonight's bombshell.....more crumbs leading to obstruction of justice.
You're being presented the opportunity to deliver your message to literally hundreds of anti-Trump viewers. I've already said I'm interested in hearing how someone can support Trump at this point in time. Please, share with us. (Or, cop out like I completely expect because I don't feel you can explain your thoughts on the situation for fear of being called out with facts by people that know what they're going on about)
Drumpf getting called out by Fox News now.....
Not me, you are an asshole in my opinion.
CheersMost welcome. Love ya really
Oh, are you a psychic or something? Your prediction is 100% spot-on! Yes, I will "cop out" because I didn't come in here to deliver any message to anyone. I've explained multiple times why I posted here, I was responding to a particular member and we have concluded our conversation.
Also, you're absolutely free to make any assumptions about what you feel I can or can't explain and what I'm afraid of or not. Not sure what you were trying to achieve with the cheap shots but I hope you're happy with yourself. Have a good one, mate
There should be a list available somewhere that collects of all Trump's pre-2017 tweets and compares them to the 2017 tweets to show this clown's hypocrisy.
Sorry, focusing on Manchester right now. But saw this earlier. Few details of Trump's proposed budget not looking great.
800 billion in cuts to Medicaid. Not sure over how many years.
Cuts include a whopping $193 billion from food stamps over the coming decade -- a cut of more than 25 percent -
The National Cancer Institute would be hit with a $1 billion cut compared to its 2017 budget. The National Heart, Lung and Blood Institute would see a $575 million cut, and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases would see a reduction of $838 million. The administration would cut the overall National Institutes of Health budget from $31.8 billion to $26 billion.
800 billion in cuts to Medicaid. Not sure over how many years.
Cuts include a whopping $193 billion from food stamps over the coming decade -- a cut of more than 25 percent -
The National Cancer Institute would be hit with a $1 billion cut compared to its 2017 budget. The National Heart, Lung and Blood Institute would see a $575 million cut, and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases would see a reduction of $838 million. The administration would cut the overall National Institutes of Health budget from $31.8 billion to $26 billion.
You have a weird understanding of how things work. What do you mean take 'Trump' down? He won't be impeached, He can't be fired by the Democrats. There's no magic solution to an election, you just have to contest the next one.
Those damn good for nothing sick people and the fools who try to help them.
(I mean.. honestly, what else could be said behind closed doors in a GOP meeting?)
What a man of the people he is. How the hell was anybody fooled into voting for him?
Not me, you are an asshole in my opinion.
Ill ask my parents
#ForzaNSF
Edit: not that I think we will get spared at all, probably cut even worse.
@sammsky1
First of all, if you seek 'intellectual progess', perhaps a thread in a football forum isn't the most appropriate place to do so.
Second- and more importantly:
The reason this thread is 900+ pages long isn't 900 pages of mockery about his tiny hands, his or Ivanka's looks.
It is because there has been hardly any day of his presidency on which he, somebody of his administration, family, surrogates hasn't said or done anything or has been saying or doing anything that isn't either intellectually or morally questionable, to put it very mildly.
@matherto posted a long list of serious issues which you recognized but that isn't even complete.
That's the main reason why this thread is 900+ pages long. Because no POTUS or any other leader of a Western democratic country has ever compiled such a long list of issues in such a short period of time. And because there are many formidable journalists who hold him and his folks accountable for their actions in the absence of the GOP whose job it would be to do so.
If you personally find his and his folks behavior acceptable or the norm for the supposedly most powerful leader of the world: Fine.
If you wouldn't mind if the PM in the UK and her/his admistration, family and party act like he and his folks do: Fine.
But accept that there are people who refuse to accept this as the norm. That's the main reason for 900+ pages.
First of all, if you seek 'intellectual progess', perhaps a thread in a football forum isn't the most appropriate place to do so.
Second- and more importantly:
The reason this thread is 900+ pages long isn't 900 pages of mockery about his tiny hands, his or Ivanka's looks.
It is because there has been hardly any day of his presidency on which he, somebody of his administration, family, surrogates hasn't said or done anything or has been saying or doing anything that isn't either intellectually or morally questionable, to put it very mildly.
@matherto posted a long list of serious issues which you recognized but that isn't even complete.
That's the main reason why this thread is 900+ pages long. Because no POTUS or any other leader of a Western democratic country has ever compiled such a long list of issues in such a short period of time. And because there are many formidable journalists who hold him and his folks accountable for their actions in the absence of the GOP whose job it would be to do so.
If you personally find his and his folks behavior acceptable or the norm for the supposedly most powerful leader of the world: Fine.
If you wouldn't mind if the PM in the UK and her/his admistration, family and party act like he and his folks do: Fine.
But accept that there are people who refuse to accept this as the norm. That's the main reason for 900+ pages.
Guy, Guy... this thread is the equivalent of the RAWK thread. Most funny because we are laughing at the people/person in this case. Lets keep it this way.
I'd rather this post proves that you should inform yourself better before making such bold claims.
Is this his way of draining the swamp?
I dont think he cant be that thick. I suspect its his parochialism. He has never worked in any other environment other than his Father's company. He really doesnt know how the world actually works other than from his little prism.
You can tell he has never done any planning that would be require of in an larger corporation or worked under any accountability required of from a CEO of a proper company.
He just doesnt know much. Its just that his voters would never expect a person as wealthy or old as him to know so little. Thats the con.
Erm impeachment was promised by so many including many on here
How many times will it need to be pointed out to you that impeachment requires the Republicans to act? Or will you just continue to ignore it?
You realise impeachment isn't a pony?
At this stage it's about building a picture of collusion, obstruction of justice and other unpresidential behaviour. It's for Congress to decide on impeachment. But as the Republicans look towards 2018 elections I don't think if by the time we get there they'll want to go into those elections as the party propping up a President, or administration, guilty of what it may well end up looking or being guilty of.
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