The Trump Presidency | Biden Inaugurated

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GiddyUp said:
All hail Donald Trump, the man who finally helped us sell red meat to a country that eats this for breakfast.
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You haven't lived if you are yet to taste balut.
 
Carolina Red said:
http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/05/12/former-kgb-trump-russia-photos-oval-office-ctn.cnn

Former KGB agent says that Trump & Co. are incompetent.

Also, as an aside... has anyone else shuddered when they realized that one day Trump's gonna have a state funeral?
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Forget the state funeral Carolina, I'm sure there will be plenty of people who will rejoice at the sight of a trump funeral motorcade.

I'm more flabbergasted that the man will have a library named after him... A place of knowledge FFS!
 
RedTiger said:
I'm more flabbergasted that the man will have a library named after him... A place of knowledge FFS!
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It will only have some tapes of Celebrity apprentice and a map of his electoral college victory
 
I am sure he'll do a 180 and say he was just joking as the "fake news" were comparing him to Nixon. He'll point and laugh that the "fake news" lapped it all up and are not responsible. The cycle will continue.

Depressing times to be a sensible person in the US.
 
RedTiger said:
Forget the state funeral Carolina, I'm sure there will be plenty of people who will rejoice at the sight of a trump funeral motorcade.

I'm more flabbergasted that the man will have a library named after him... A place of knowledge FFS!
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I was gonna suggest it be named 'The Donald Trump Library for Kids Who Can't Read Good and Want to Do Other Stuff Good Too' but even that joke is inaccurate as it still reads much better than Trump's own transcripts.
 
Kentonio said:
It's worth remembering that the GOP have been working on reducing the Democratic share of the vote by disenfranchising minority voters for at least a decade now.
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You aren't giving them enough credit.

50s:
Reacting in 1957 to southern blacks’ demands for voting rights, the National Review declared in a Buckley-penned editorial that whites were “the advanced race,” while blacks were culturally and intellectually unfit for democracy. “The claims of civilization supersede those of universal suffrage,” Buckley wrote, labeling assertions to the contrary “demagoguery.”
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60s:
adding an inclusively interracial overtone to his anti-poor condescension, Buckley argued in a debate with James Baldwin, “The problem in Mississippi isn’t that too few Negroes can vote, it’s that too many whites can.”
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Continued pressure from civil rights activists compelled President Lyndon Johnson and Congress to put many of the enfranchisement measures proposed by both commissions into law, most notably through the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

From the beginning, right-wing opponents of the bill — largely a mix of Southern Democrats and conservative Republicans — framed their opposition to the legislation as opposition to fraud. For good measure, they issued broader denunciations of mass democracy. A representative of John McKeithen, the Democratic governor of Louisiana, for example, told the Senate that the VRA would “open the gates to the greatest fraud and corruption in elections” before going on to describe the very idea of universal suffrage as communistic.

Barry Goldwater, the 1964 Republican presidential nominee, argued that the act would mean the “end of the democratic processes and the republican form of government that we have so long enjoyed.” Conservatives like Republican Indiana Supreme Court justice Harold Achor fretted that Democrats would “out-promise” Republicans in dispensing public money — and “the more of these people who are pressured into registering and voting, the greater our party will suffer.”

Even moderate Northern Republicans who didn’t outright oppose voting rights sought to limit the franchise to the well-educated and well-off. A GOP alternative to the Voting Rights Act proposed by Michigan representative Gerald Ford and Ohio representative William McCulloch would have allowed states to administer literacy tests.

Future Supreme Court justice William Rehnquist, for instance, worked for Operation Eagle Eye, a 1960s-era Arizona GOP operation that challenged the legitimacy of black and Latino voters at the polls. Then, as now, Republicans couched their support for erecting voting obstacles in terms of voter integrity, with Illinois congressman Robert McClory predicting that in cities like Chicago “fraud would be multiplied many times if the illiterate is going to be given the right to vote.”
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70s:
When President Jimmy Carter proposed a slate of voting reforms, including same-day registration, the Right pounced. Conservative outlets like the Heritage Foundation and Human Events raised the specter of mass fraud, with the former predicting that the legislation would allow “eight million illegal aliens” to vote and the latter warning of “widespread fraud in key urban centers.”

As usual, the legislation’s predicted effects on the GOP’s political fortunes weighed heavily on conservatives’ minds. Republican strategist Kevin Phillips noted that less restrictive voting laws in Wisconsin and Minnesota had boosted turnout and helped Democrats win those states in 1976. He guessed that Carter’s reforms would have a similar impact at the national level, since “most of the new participants, drawn from low-middle and low-income groups, will be Democrats.”

Human Events called the bill “Euthanasia for the GOP,” and Ronald Reagan’s Citizens for the Republic newsletter dubbed it “the Permanent Democratic Majority and Incumbents’ Protection Plan of 1977.”
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Reagan:
Beginning in the 1960s, Reagan used critiques of mass voting as a rhetorical ballast for his excoriations of the welfare state, predicting that democracy would cease to exist when “voters discover they can vote themselves largesse out of the public treasury.” Like many on the Right, Reagan took the logical next step, stridently opposing laws that made it easier for low-income Americans to cast ballots.

“Liberals have made a hobby of carefully nursing the myth that millions of Americans are somehow kept away from the polls because it is so ‘difficult’ to register,” Reagan wrote. But nonvoters, he asserted, were largely “those who get a whole lot more from the federal government — in various kinds of welfare — than they contribute to it.”

As a result, conservatives argued that it was good for the country that such people stayed away from the polls — and perhaps even better for the Republican Party. “The saving grace of the GOP in national elections,” Reagan’s future White House communications director Pat Buchanan noted, “has been the political apathy, the lethargy, of the welfare class. It simply does not bother to register to vote.”

Paul Weyrich, the cofounder of the Heritage Foundation and the American Legislative Exchange Council, expressed a similar sentiment in 1980, saying, “I don’t want everybody to vote . . . Our leverage in the elections quite candidly goes up as the voting populace goes down.”
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90s:
For decades now, Republicans have tried to put Weyrich’s insight into practice. In 1992, President George H. W. Bush vetoed the “Motor Voter Act,” a bill designed to make it easier for Americans to register to vote and harder for states to purge voter rolls. Pushed by leftist scholar-activists Francis Fox Piven and Richard Cloward, the legislation was denounced by Bush for “expos[ing] the election process to an unacceptable risk of fraud and corruption without any reason to believe that it would increase electoral participation to any significant degree.”

Eventually, Bill Clinton would sign the bill into law, with Piven and Cloward standing behind him.
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00s:
Elected Republicans, far from dispelling these unfounded rumors, have used their positions to lend them the patina of official respectability. Throughout the George W. Bush administration, party officials cried wolf about potential voter fraud as part of a concerted strategy to make the public believe such chicanery was rampant, going so far as to fire US attorneys who refused to play along and investigate nonexistent incidents.

Throughout the 2008 campaign, John McCain, the GOP’s supposedly moderate nominee, falsely alleged in campaign commercials and debates that the left-leaning grassroots group ACORN was “on the verge of maybe perpetrating one of the greatest frauds in voter history in this country, maybe destroying the fabric of democracy” by working to steal the election for Barack Obama.
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You know the rest.
 
That's it then. There's nothing more dependable than the word of a lawyer.
 
:lol: Trump has basically admitted, even if it was a gaffe, Comey was fired because he was investigating Trump-Russia ties :lol:
 
Crossie said:
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A. So there is income from Russia.
B. We'll take your word for it.
C. Let's see if the FBI agree once they have followed the paper trail through all the shell companies.
 
Fergies Gum said:
No one is asking a key question. Why was it discussed 3 seperate times that Trump was told he was not under investigation (If the claim is true)?

It makes sense if he asked once, though even that is shocking and alarming.

Was Trump informed by someone on 2 seperate occasions that the FBI had collected damning evidence after the first time, which resulted in Trump asking Comey 2 more times.
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Alzheimers.
 
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Oh wait, whats this?

Morgan, Lewis & Bockius, the law firm advising President-elect Donald Trump on handling his business conflicts, won the Russia Law Firm of the Year award in 2016.

The law firm announced the award in a press release last May, noting it was recognized in the Chambers & Partners' 2016 Chambers Europe guide. According to Morgan Lewis' website, the firm's Moscow office staffs more than 40 lawyers who are well known in the Russian market and "have deep familiarity with the local legislation, practices and key players."
http://fortune.com/2017/01/11/donald-trumps-morgan-lewis-russia-award/
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:lol:
 
The odd thing is the Republicans don't seem to mind what he is doing considering he is affecting the party for the coming elections with his approval ratings and all this bad publicity. I know he has hard core fans who will never budge but surely they are losing a large portion of those sitting on the fence which can cost them big or am I missing something?
 
That's exactly how I imagine the situation to be.

 
Clapper's backtracking on the collusion bit is significant. Its what Trump, WH and their supporters have used a lot to dismiss this Russia investigation. They latched onto Clapper's original claim of there being no collusion.
 
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