Was it Maher who joked recently that thanks to Trump, Bush is now viewed in a much warmer light.
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Was it Maher who joked recently that thanks to Trump, Bush is now viewed in a much warmer light.
"Nobody knew that health care could be so complicated"
Apart from anyone who's ever given it any thought.
Apart from anyone who's ever given it any thought.
Bush, a man who could fail an IQ test, has more understanding of public perception than 'best salesman in the world' trump.
I think at the point they are wheeling out establishment stalwarts like Bush (who would say nothing unless prompted to), means the gop are building up to dealing with trump, because the alternative is he takes them down with him.
I think at the point they are wheeling out establishment stalwarts like Bush (who would say nothing unless prompted to), means the gop are building up to dealing with trump, because the alternative is he takes them down with him.
We didn't need Trump.
Even while he was in office - people hated...Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Libby and Co a hell of a lot more than Dubya.
Bush wasn't as stupid as he seemed.
Trump is somehow even more stupid than he seems.
Yeah, I think it was.
Exactly, but that's what happens when the man who thinks he can fix everything and anything starts to realise that actually, he can't.
do we feck, he started it all the idiot.
As long as he doesn't bring the Penguin back with him I'd take Dubya in a heartbeat over Trump.
Yeah, that Defense Department sure needs that 10% increase. Funny how all those fiscal hawks and big government haters on the right wing bust a nut when it comes to growing and spending on the military, law enforcement and the massive penal system. Speaks volumes of their disgusting hypocrisy and authoritarian bent.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_employers
And of course once that budget is increased, anyone trying to lower it in future will get hit with constant attack ads from the right about how they're 'attacking the US military' and 'disrespecting the servicemen and women who risk their lives on the front line' etc etc.
You mean those PRO LIFE loons that hate abortion but love the death penalty and hate giving to the poor or homeless and don't want free healthcare but also love the 2nd amendment and gun sales, and also love the destruction of the environment and the killing of endangered species.
I honestly don't think there are bigger hypocrites anywhere on earth.
Also, I'm sure they think that effectively bribing the army safeguards the administration from a coup.
Bush making good points.
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If there was on thing you could say about Bush it would be that deep down he was a nice guy and he he'd empathy for people of all walks of life. It was the conniving sniveling mutherfeckers behind him that instigated the horrible shit that went down. Still think he was a bumbling idiot but fecking scholarly compared to the gropenfuhrer.
Yep, Reagan was much the same. Small government...except when wanting to be big government.
I think scrapping Obamacare was a vote winner, mainly because the GOP base despises anything and everything Obama. They may have even wanted to do it, but the realities of the situation are hitting them. Republican governors and senators have openly come out against it. If they scrap Obamacare, they'll leave a massive gap in the social system which will hit many of their own supporters. Especially as there isn't any viable alternative in place.
All the GOP supporters who suddenly figured out Obamacare = ACA and that if it is gone, they are fecked.
Ahh yes...Good old Jeff Sessions
So this guy has just increased military spending? Didn't he say for the whole campaign it was time for America to do its own business and stop "caring" about the others?
this is different...
the army is weak
the air force is weak
the navy is weak
our nucular is weak
seriously though - a modernization/replacement drive was needed...and obviously that involves extra money. Thing is - this happens under every president - Obama shrunk the size of the army...but that's not a bad thing necessarily. Modernization, automation, drones etc etc...mean we don't need 10mil people or whatever.
That's his proposed increase - no guarantee he'll get all of that. Some talk, initially he wanted an even bigger increase!
Nice.
Fair point. If you put it in this way it is fine. My main worry is that he can use this thing in a bad way though. You know this guy is crazy.
Next stage of voter suppression. They're going to be spending the next four years ensuring that the only demographics left to vote are majority republicans.
Ah, I long for the days of 43. When I didn't dream of hoping that a general named Mad Dog or the ex-CEO of an oil giant with ties to Russia could somehow succeed the president before his term is up.
Non the the branches of the US military is weak and every single additional penny is wasted in the sense, that it doesn't increase the welfare of the US citizens at all.
And that'll be on the Democrats. GOP started working anew on voter suppression immediately after Obama got elected the 1st time and with a real zeal after he got reelected.
They see the way the demographics are leaning and decided making voting as difficult as possible was a big win for them. Democrats knew this, but did very little work in an organized manner to combat this or to mitigate the issue.
Here is an example from this week - and they aren't even pretending to hide their agenda. 2017 - and this is the state of American democracy.
Of course some will now complain about people on here being 'hysterical' and 'overreacting'
State GOP Chair Opposes Bill To Make It Easier To Vote, Claiming It Will Hurt Republicans
“This bill could be death of our effort to make Montana a reliably Republican state,” he said.
By Sam Levine
The head of the Montana Republican Party wrote an emergency plea this week warning that legislation allowing residents to cast mail-in ballots would benefit Democrats and make it more difficult for the GOP to maintain control of state politics.
At issue is legislation introduced by Montana state Sen. Steve Fitzpatrick (R) that would allow Montanans to cast mail-in ballots in a special election later this year to fill the U.S. House seat vacated by Rep. Ryan Zinke (R-Mont.), whom President Donald Trump tapped to lead the Interior Department. Fitzpatrick introduced the bill to save the state $500,000 by not requiring election judges and other officials to be hired on short notice, he told The Associated Press
But the legislation prompted Jeff Essmann, the chair of the Montana GOP, to send Republicans an “emergency report” email on Tuesday, warning that making it easier to vote would benefit Democrats.
“All mail ballots give the Democrats an inherent advantage in close elections due to their ability to organize large numbers of unpaid college students and members of public employee unions to gather ballots by going door to door,” Essmann wrote. “Vote-by-mail is designed to increase participation rates of lower propensity voters. Democrats in Montana perform better than Republican candidates among lower propensity voters and Republicans do better among higher propensity voters.”
As states across the country debate voting measures, Essmann’s email provides a remarkably candid glimpse of a Republican official opposing a measure to make it easier to vote on the grounds it would harm his party politically.
While the current legislation only addresses one special election, Essmann warned that it could have severe consequences for the state GOP.
“I know that my position will not be popular with many fiscally conservative Republican County Commissioners or the sponsor of House Bill 305. They may be well intended, but this bill could be death of our effort to make Montana a reliably Republican state,” he wrote. “It is my job to remind us all of the long term strategic advantage that passage of this bill would provide to our Democrat opponents for control of our legislature and our statewide elected positions.”
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Wow! What an excellent, articulate and insightful interview, he chose his words carefully and at least 4 or 5 times took serious umbrage with Trump, his actions and proposed policies. He also landed some very subtle digs and some not so subtle ones too. It will be interesting to see what the Orange Cheeto Tweets in reply. He's already called Bush a loser before so depending on what mood he is in or how he interprets that interview, he could go right off on one. I reckon he could just ignore it though.
I wonder how much influence the Bush family still has in the GOP.
Have we already forgotten the mayhem and damage left behind by eight years of Bush II? Trump's not even been in two months yet, nothing he has done (as of yet) comes close to anything the Bush gang got up to while in power. I mean, Bush's feck ups are IMO some of the biggest reasons we now have Trump in charge. But he said a few critical words against Trump now (funny, I don't remember him saying much during the campaign, maybe I missed it) and suddenly we're pining for the good old days.
Trump being president - regardless of how bad he is - doesn't vindicate the horrific actions of other presidents. Almost everybody can give a decent speech and GWB doesn't deserve any praise for not being a clown. The guy is responsible for the death of countless innocent people, torture, bad economic policy, the erosion of civil rights, the strengthening of the presidency, and probably countrless other feck-ups, that I can't recall at the moment.
This issue is probably the single most annoying thing about this: Trying to legitimize crooks by comparing them to Trump. Yes, most people look good compared to Trump. No, he is not a good standard for comparisons.
This issue is probably the single most annoying thing about this: Trying to legitimize crooks by comparing them to Trump. Yes, most people look good compared to Trump. No, he is not a good standard for comparisons.
No one is saying Bush is a saint, and his actions haven't been forgotten, but when Bush sounds like a centrist, you know there's a serious problem with the GOP and with the presidency.
I think you're missing the point. Nobody is saying Bush is a saint or that he was a good President. He was Hawkish and rash and together with Blair has a lot of responsibility for the state of the world right now.
All that, despite being calculated in his actions. Trump is anarchic and chaotic and already the stances he has taken and threats he has made have a potential impact worse than what Bush ever did.
The fact even Bush is capable of seeing this only highlights the issue.
Oh, come off it in regards to W. If you can't handle absurdity then you shouldn't be debating politics.
Very little...particularly Jeb - WEAK!
No, I don't have forgotten that. Easily the worst US president I experienced in my life time - until Agent Orange entered the stage. GWB however didn't attack pillars of democracy in his first month in office - checks & balances, free press. He didn't continuously spread hate and wasn't a pathological liar. I consider 45 with Bannon pulling the strings even more toxic than GWB was. There's a German expression 'schlimmer geht immer' - it can always get worse. Hits the nail on the head regarding 45 after 43.
Edit: GWB didn't vote for 45, BTW. IIRC, he said already so during the campaign.
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Woah, all I said was it was a decent interview and it was nice to see and hear an ex President come out against Trump. Not even Bill Clinton has gone as far as Bush did in that interview. There's an unwritten code between them all that they respect whoever is in charge and don't interfere. The respect shown between all the ex-Presidents is obvious for all to see. Bush just broke ranks there, but not once did I say anything about his time as President or anything he did while he was in charge. There really is no need to go over old ground again anyway, everyone knows what he and his evil Sith Lord VP were like and we all know what Rudy G and Rumsfeld and co were like too, but it's refreshing to hear a very prominent Republican speak the way he just did, the fact he's an ex President makes it all the better.
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