I'm actually surprised that he didn't go for the standard BS macho rubbish of a copiously bleeding steak.
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Failing NY Times did an article about Trump's butler back in March, which implied the same thing, although there was no mention of freaking ketchup:
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/16/us/politics/donald-trump-butler-mar-a-lago.html?_r=0
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/16/us/politics/donald-trump-butler-mar-a-lago.html?_r=0
Maybe these two things are not mutually exclusive.Failing NYT said:
Regarding his attacks on the media, why haven't the NY Times Shareholders started legal action against him? Surely there are laws against the POTUS publicly declaring their company "a failing company"?
There's no law against it, in fact it's protected speech.
I guess the issue would be if he or a party in cahoots with him benefitted from the fluctuation of stock prices it caused.
I guess that's what I was thinking about.
You saucy bugger!Yeah, I must admit I would rather eat a well done steak than a blue steak. Although I love my steak rare, blue is just that step too far and I don't like my food literally running around my plate. And yeah, all the chefs I know and have worked with say the same, they don't care what the customer likes, it's just an arse cooking a well done steak because if it's a decent cut of meat it can take forever and in a busy kitchen that's a real pain.
Back on topic....
An excellent article from the FAKE NYT!
http://www.npr.org/2017/02/17/51576...ke-news-and-a-newspaper-threatens-to-sue-back
This part sums it up quite nicely:
Aside from whether there's a legal case against such accusations, there's the question of whether it's a good idea for a news organization to combat its detractors in court.
Bringing cases like this could ultimately backfire on the press because legal arguments made in such cases could later be used against them, said George Freeman, the executive director of the nonprofit Media Law Resource Center.
"Then the next time you're arguing something is opinion to win your case, maybe the court will look at this case and say, 'No ...' it's similar to this case where the judge decided it's a fact," Freeman said.
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It happens on a regular basis with Trump - Boeing, Lockheed, Carrier etc. He routinely says things about companies that effects their share prices. They just have to get used to it.
I honestly don't think anyone at the New York Times minds because they are selling more newspapers than they have for years and subscriptions are at a record high. Someone reported the other day that each time Trump mentions them they get a massive influx of online subscriptions. Also, recent poll numbers out this week have showed that Trumps continued attacks on the media are not only not working, they are having the complete opposite effect. More and more people are starting to trust and believe the media over Trump. I think that they are now fact checking every single story and the fact Fox have recently started joining in with not only condemning Trumps attacks but also defending the other media outlets has made a huge difference.
He's playing a very dangerous game and people are now getting fed up with him saying stuff and offering no evidence whatsoever, they are starting to question him. His constant attacks on the intelligence agencies isn't helping things either, especially as many consider the FBI to have helped him get elected anyway, a story in the WaPo recently said people just can't understand why he's so against them when he loved them before the election. As I said, it's a dangerous game and he needs to tread carefully because if you had to write a list of who you wouldn't want to upset if you were in a position of power, I honestly think everyone would have the intelligence agencies and press right at the very top, followed closely by other world leaders and organisations like NATO and then groups of countries like the EU.......
I'd be fine with that, but over here in France the cnuts act like you just asked to feck their daughters or something when you ask for a steak well done.
Trumps past Tweets come back to haunt him again. Proper burn from Hilary too.
Trumps past Tweets come back to haunt him again. Proper burn from Hilary too.
You mean Hillary
After the discussion in here lately, I created a Redcafe Meta Thread and it died a death There's a lesson in that, or something.
There's a lesson in that, or something.https://uk.news.yahoo.com/trump-anti-isis-strategy-may-091045228.html
Not going to pretend I'm an expert on political-military strategy in the Middle-East but this doesn't sound half as moronic as Trump's obliterate them to hell campaign rhetoric in my professional opinion.
Not going to pretend I'm an expert on political-military strategy in the Middle-East but this doesn't sound half as moronic as Trump's obliterate them to hell campaign rhetoric in my professional opinion.
Trumps past Tweets come back to haunt him again. Proper burn from Hilary too.
Why couldn't she produce humour like that during the fecking campaign?
that's not her is it?
I can't pretend to be an expert on the Syria / Iraq conflict like some who hang around that specific thread, but my overall understanding has been that its been at least 6 months now that Daesh has been on the backfoot and slowly losing ground as indeed the US-led strategy has chipped away at their resources and manpower. Not that this revisit is therefore meaningless, because I have no idea of that. But like an Atlantic article recently said: we will have to contend with the idea that it is likely that under this administration Daesh will be defeated, and they would notch this as a success to be flaunted in 2020.
Kick out all the illegals except for the nice guy we all know...doesn't work like that people!
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He’s a Local Pillar in a Trump Town. Now He Could Be Deported.
By MONICA DAVEY
FEB. 27, 2017
Elizabeth Hernandez with her sons, from left, Gianluca, 6, Kharloz, 8, and Maximus, 2, at their home in West Frankfort, Ill. Ms. Hernandez’s husband, Juan Carlos Hernandez Pacheco, was taken into custody earlier this month by Immigration and Customs Enforcement. Credit Whitney Curtis for The New York Times
WEST FRANKFORT, Ill. — Ask residents of this coal-mining crossroads about President Trump’s decision to crack down on undocumented immigrants and most offer no protest. Mr. Trump, who easily won this mostly white southern Illinois county, is doing what he promised, they say. As Terry Chambers, a barber on Main Street, put it, the president simply wants “to get rid of the bad eggs.”
But then they took Carlos.
Juan Carlos Hernandez Pacheco — just Carlos to the people of West Frankfort — has been the manager of La Fiesta, a Mexican restaurant in this city of 8,000, for a decade. Yes, he always greeted people warmly at the cheerfully decorated restaurant, known for its beef and chicken fajitas. And, yes, he knew their children by name. But people here tick off more things they know Carlos for.
How one night last fall, when the Fire Department was battling a two-alarm blaze, Mr. Hernandez suddenly appeared with meals for the firefighters. How he hosted a Law Enforcement Appreciation Day at the restaurant last summer as police officers were facing criticism around the country. How he took part in just about every community committee or charity effort — the Rotary Club, cancer fund-raisers, cleanup days, even scholarships for the Redbirds, the high school sports teams, which are the pride of this city.
“I think people need to do things the right way, follow the rules and obey the laws, and I firmly believe in that,” said Lori Barron, the owner of Lori’s Hair A’Fairs, a beauty salon. “But in the case of Carlos, I think he may have done more for the people here than this place has ever given him. I think it’s absolutely terrible that he could be taken away.”
On Feb. 9, Mr. Hernandez, 38, was arrested by federal immigration agents near his home, not far from La Fiesta, and taken to a detention facility in Missouri. The federal authorities confirmed that he remained in custody, but would not comment on the precise reason for or timing of his arrest.
Immigration officials noted that Mr. Hernandez had two drunken-driving convictions from 2007, a circumstance that could make him a higher priority for deportation. Friends of his say he crossed into the United States from Mexico in the late 1990s and had started but never completed efforts to legalize his status.
As Victor Arana, a lawyer for Mr. Hernandez, began pressing in court to seek release for Mr. Hernandez on bond until his case can be heard, the community has rallied around him, writing pleas for leniency to the officials who will decide his fate.
Tom Jordan, the mayor of West Frankfort, wrote that Mr. Hernandez was a “great asset” to the city who “doesn’t ask for anything in return.” The fire chief described him as “a man of great character.”
The letters have piled up — from the county prosecutor, the former postmaster, the car dealer, the Rotary Club president. In his note, Richard Glodich, the athletic director at Frankfort Community High School, wrote, “As a grandson of immigrants, I am all for immigration reform, but this time you have arrested a GOOD MAN that should be used as a role model for other immigrants.”
This is an uncomfortable stance for a place like West Frankfort. This county, Franklin, backed Mr. Trump with 70 percent of the vote, largely on hopes, people here say, that he could jump-start the coal industry, which has receded painfully here over decades. Illegal immigration was by no means the most pressing issue for this overwhelmingly white area, residents say.
Still, many say they concur in principle with Mr. Trump’s wish to be more aggressive in blocking those who seek to sneak across the border. Things grew more tangled when principle met West Frankfort’s particular reality, in the form of Carlos.
Many people said they had no idea Mr. Hernandez lacked legal status until word of his arrest began spreading.
“I knew he was Mexican, but he’s been here so long, he’s just one of us,” said Debra Johnson, a resident. She said she saw a distinction between “people who come over and use the system and people who actually come and help.”
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Mr. Hernandez has been the manager of La Fiesta for a decade. Townspeople say he has done much more than serve them Mexican food. Credit Whitney Curtis for The New York Times
Not everyone feels Mr. Hernandez should be treated unlike anyone else without permission to be here. As friends have gathered words of support for him through an email address — istandwithcarlos@gmail.com — other messages have arrived there, too. “Carlos is probably a nice man, but he broke our country’s law,” one email read. Some critics point to the two drunken-driving cases. (His friends say he quit drinking after that.)
Asked about Mr. Hernandez, a spokesman for Immigration and Customs Enforcement released a statement that read, in part: “Every day, as part of routine operations, ICE officers target and arrest criminal aliens and other individuals who are in violation of our nation’s immigration laws.”
After a report of his detention appeared in a local newspaper, The Southern Illinoisan, some comments were pointed:
“No U.S. citizen is above the U.S. law! If a U.S. citizen breaks a law they go to jail or prison! No illegal alien is above the U.S. law!”
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And: “I get that this man has been here for years and years and has contributed to society, but he isn’t LEGAL, therefore the U.S. has every right to throw him out.”
And: “A couple thousand down, millions to go.”
Around West Frankfort, some people grow quiet when asked whether some undocumented people should be granted exceptions.
“With everything that’s gone on — we’ve had years of unemployment rates that are skyrocketing — I would like to see some of the people that I know go back to work before I worry about people from other countries coming here and making a better life for themselves,” said Audrey Loftus, 38, a bartender at the local Veterans of Foreign Wars post.
But Mr. Hernandez, Ms. Loftus said, has left her “on the fence” about what should happen now. “I hate to use the word rednecks, but this is southern Illinois.” she said. “This is the definition of a good old boys’ club, and you don’t have a lot of people of different ethnicities that are in this area.
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Mr. Hernandez with his wife, Elizabeth, in a photo provided by her.
“And then there’s Carlos,” she continued. “You will not find a single person that has anything bad to say about him.”
Mr. Hernandez’s lawyer said that a hearing was expected in his case on Wednesday and that he was hoping Mr. Hernandez might be released on bond as any legal action went forward.
His wife, Elizabeth Hernandez, who attained United States citizenship late last year, according to Mr. Arana, said she was struggling to sleep, since her husband was detained. The couple has three sons, the youngest 2.
“What I’m really worrying about,” she said in a telephone interview, “is what am I going to tell my three boys if he can’t stay here?”
Tim Grigsby, who owns a local printing shop and considers Mr. Hernandez one of his closest friends, has been helping to lead the efforts to bring Mr. Hernandez back to West Frankfort. He said he had always known that Mr. Hernandez did a lot around town. But he said that even he did not grasp the scope of it all until the letters started flowing in.
There was the pastor who described Mr. Hernandez helping at a funeral, the family that remembered him raising hundreds of dollars for its son’s hearing aid, the businessman who said that he was mostly a private person but that Mr. Hernandez was one of the few people he invites over for dinner.
Mr. Grigsby said he still would vote for Mr. Trump. One never agrees with everything a politician does, “but maybe this should all be more on a per-case basis,” he said. “It’s hard to be black and white on this because there may be people like Carlos.”
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He’s a Local Pillar in a Trump Town. Now He Could Be Deported.
By MONICA DAVEY
FEB. 27, 2017
Elizabeth Hernandez with her sons, from left, Gianluca, 6, Kharloz, 8, and Maximus, 2, at their home in West Frankfort, Ill. Ms. Hernandez’s husband, Juan Carlos Hernandez Pacheco, was taken into custody earlier this month by Immigration and Customs Enforcement. Credit Whitney Curtis for The New York Times
WEST FRANKFORT, Ill. — Ask residents of this coal-mining crossroads about President Trump’s decision to crack down on undocumented immigrants and most offer no protest. Mr. Trump, who easily won this mostly white southern Illinois county, is doing what he promised, they say. As Terry Chambers, a barber on Main Street, put it, the president simply wants “to get rid of the bad eggs.”
But then they took Carlos.
Juan Carlos Hernandez Pacheco — just Carlos to the people of West Frankfort — has been the manager of La Fiesta, a Mexican restaurant in this city of 8,000, for a decade. Yes, he always greeted people warmly at the cheerfully decorated restaurant, known for its beef and chicken fajitas. And, yes, he knew their children by name. But people here tick off more things they know Carlos for.
How one night last fall, when the Fire Department was battling a two-alarm blaze, Mr. Hernandez suddenly appeared with meals for the firefighters. How he hosted a Law Enforcement Appreciation Day at the restaurant last summer as police officers were facing criticism around the country. How he took part in just about every community committee or charity effort — the Rotary Club, cancer fund-raisers, cleanup days, even scholarships for the Redbirds, the high school sports teams, which are the pride of this city.
“I think people need to do things the right way, follow the rules and obey the laws, and I firmly believe in that,” said Lori Barron, the owner of Lori’s Hair A’Fairs, a beauty salon. “But in the case of Carlos, I think he may have done more for the people here than this place has ever given him. I think it’s absolutely terrible that he could be taken away.”
On Feb. 9, Mr. Hernandez, 38, was arrested by federal immigration agents near his home, not far from La Fiesta, and taken to a detention facility in Missouri. The federal authorities confirmed that he remained in custody, but would not comment on the precise reason for or timing of his arrest.
Immigration officials noted that Mr. Hernandez had two drunken-driving convictions from 2007, a circumstance that could make him a higher priority for deportation. Friends of his say he crossed into the United States from Mexico in the late 1990s and had started but never completed efforts to legalize his status.
As Victor Arana, a lawyer for Mr. Hernandez, began pressing in court to seek release for Mr. Hernandez on bond until his case can be heard, the community has rallied around him, writing pleas for leniency to the officials who will decide his fate.
Tom Jordan, the mayor of West Frankfort, wrote that Mr. Hernandez was a “great asset” to the city who “doesn’t ask for anything in return.” The fire chief described him as “a man of great character.”
The letters have piled up — from the county prosecutor, the former postmaster, the car dealer, the Rotary Club president. In his note, Richard Glodich, the athletic director at Frankfort Community High School, wrote, “As a grandson of immigrants, I am all for immigration reform, but this time you have arrested a GOOD MAN that should be used as a role model for other immigrants.”
This is an uncomfortable stance for a place like West Frankfort. This county, Franklin, backed Mr. Trump with 70 percent of the vote, largely on hopes, people here say, that he could jump-start the coal industry, which has receded painfully here over decades. Illegal immigration was by no means the most pressing issue for this overwhelmingly white area, residents say.
Still, many say they concur in principle with Mr. Trump’s wish to be more aggressive in blocking those who seek to sneak across the border. Things grew more tangled when principle met West Frankfort’s particular reality, in the form of Carlos.
Many people said they had no idea Mr. Hernandez lacked legal status until word of his arrest began spreading.
“I knew he was Mexican, but he’s been here so long, he’s just one of us,” said Debra Johnson, a resident. She said she saw a distinction between “people who come over and use the system and people who actually come and help.”
Photo
Mr. Hernandez has been the manager of La Fiesta for a decade. Townspeople say he has done much more than serve them Mexican food. Credit Whitney Curtis for The New York Times
Not everyone feels Mr. Hernandez should be treated unlike anyone else without permission to be here. As friends have gathered words of support for him through an email address — istandwithcarlos@gmail.com — other messages have arrived there, too. “Carlos is probably a nice man, but he broke our country’s law,” one email read. Some critics point to the two drunken-driving cases. (His friends say he quit drinking after that.)
Asked about Mr. Hernandez, a spokesman for Immigration and Customs Enforcement released a statement that read, in part: “Every day, as part of routine operations, ICE officers target and arrest criminal aliens and other individuals who are in violation of our nation’s immigration laws.”
After a report of his detention appeared in a local newspaper, The Southern Illinoisan, some comments were pointed:
“No U.S. citizen is above the U.S. law! If a U.S. citizen breaks a law they go to jail or prison! No illegal alien is above the U.S. law!”
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And: “I get that this man has been here for years and years and has contributed to society, but he isn’t LEGAL, therefore the U.S. has every right to throw him out.”
And: “A couple thousand down, millions to go.”
Around West Frankfort, some people grow quiet when asked whether some undocumented people should be granted exceptions.
“With everything that’s gone on — we’ve had years of unemployment rates that are skyrocketing — I would like to see some of the people that I know go back to work before I worry about people from other countries coming here and making a better life for themselves,” said Audrey Loftus, 38, a bartender at the local Veterans of Foreign Wars post.
But Mr. Hernandez, Ms. Loftus said, has left her “on the fence” about what should happen now. “I hate to use the word rednecks, but this is southern Illinois.” she said. “This is the definition of a good old boys’ club, and you don’t have a lot of people of different ethnicities that are in this area.
Photo
Mr. Hernandez with his wife, Elizabeth, in a photo provided by her.
“And then there’s Carlos,” she continued. “You will not find a single person that has anything bad to say about him.”
Mr. Hernandez’s lawyer said that a hearing was expected in his case on Wednesday and that he was hoping Mr. Hernandez might be released on bond as any legal action went forward.
His wife, Elizabeth Hernandez, who attained United States citizenship late last year, according to Mr. Arana, said she was struggling to sleep, since her husband was detained. The couple has three sons, the youngest 2.
“What I’m really worrying about,” she said in a telephone interview, “is what am I going to tell my three boys if he can’t stay here?”
Tim Grigsby, who owns a local printing shop and considers Mr. Hernandez one of his closest friends, has been helping to lead the efforts to bring Mr. Hernandez back to West Frankfort. He said he had always known that Mr. Hernandez did a lot around town. But he said that even he did not grasp the scope of it all until the letters started flowing in.
There was the pastor who described Mr. Hernandez helping at a funeral, the family that remembered him raising hundreds of dollars for its son’s hearing aid, the businessman who said that he was mostly a private person but that Mr. Hernandez was one of the few people he invites over for dinner.
Mr. Grigsby said he still would vote for Mr. Trump. One never agrees with everything a politician does, “but maybe this should all be more on a per-case basis,” he said. “It’s hard to be black and white on this because there may be people like Carlos.”
feck just realised it isn't.
Panicked when I saw your post - thought she'd just announced a 2020 run!
Always check for the blue ticks $54bil proposed increase in Defense budget - 10% rise from last year.
On the face of it...not a bad thing, but the increase is meant to be offset by cuts in other departments.
On the face of it...not a bad thing, but the increase is meant to be offset by cuts in other departments.
After Trump saying "that nobody knew healthcare could be so complicated" Which makes a real change from him saying "nobody can fix healthcare except me" Now it seems the whole cabinet is divided on what to do with Obamacare.
@ShadowingTrump appears to be an interesting project if it will provide not just superficial comments but more in-depth texts.
FINALLY An ex President speaks out. Bush thinks an investigation is needed. And here from MSNBC a story about Republicans begrudgingly agreeing that an investigation is required and how the White House is making matters worse by trying to brush it all under the carpet. It really is the story that just will not go away.
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-...-matters-worse-trying-suppress-russia-scandal
This is when you know the world is fecked. George W Bush is the voice of reason.
Come back, Dubya. We miss you.
Indeed, the first reply to the Tweet says pretty much the same. Dick Cheney has also said something similar too, you know when you agree with the Dark Lord of the Sith that something must be seriously wrong.
The positive thing there for me is that there seems to be some understanding that this conflict isn't just about tackling specific organisations such as ISIS (although that needs to be done), but on a deeper level is related to the general social and political malaise of much of the Islamic world.
The negative thing is that I can't think of a less suitable guy than Trump to go forward and make policy based on that understanding. Although I think it's probably an impossible task for any American president to make any kind of positive impact on these problems.
In any case, let's hope this Mad Dog guy is good.
Thanks, nice theory although a bit shitty for us who have to live through the next fifteen years or so while supposedly in our prime. But oh well.
Everybody and their dogs knew that healthcare is a complicated matter.
But it's a nice change that reality appears to kick in.Didn't John Boehner say in an interview that was posted here recently that the GOP had only common ground that they didn't like the ACA but had never common ground what to replace it with? Seems accurate, and I assume that the big turnout and heated atmosphere at town halls helps to show that the topic is more sensitive than some GOP folks have thought.
It was as early as in 45's 1st week that I caught myself thinking 'good ole days when GWB was president' ...
Yup, for all his monumental feck ups and slips of the tongue and embarrassing moments, that speech was a truly inspirational moment. He was a buffoon at times, but he was still a statesman and as that video shows, he had some great moments of clarity and inspiration and some that most definitely deserved respect.
@ShadowingTrump appears to be an interesting project if it will provide not just superficial comments but more in-depth texts.
This is very interesting. However, I can see it being dismissed out of hand by Trump's supporters as some liberal amazing person I admire fake news group etc etc.
'Stability', 'Strategic Partner' & 'Ally in the WOT' will ensure none of this will ever get looked at seriously. Democracy is ugly and takes time to take root - in most of the ME democratic elections would result in Islamists winning (ground game is better)...but that's the price you have to be willing to pay to gain in the long term.
Yet, we've seen - people justify dictators and oppressive regimes because...Democracy is going to bring the Brotherhood to power.
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