The Trump Presidency | Biden Inaugurated
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So now they are actually calling their own supporters fakes and liars? Or stupid because they don't understand properly? That's a pretty good way to lose votes, or it fecking should be.
People who cheated on spouse will more likely accuse others of doing the same.
So it's more indicative of trump having done the same thing during the campaign.
They should rebrand themselves as the Ice tea party.
Wow. That first tweet, you can feel the bitterness in it. A sure "we're gonna do it and feck yous" reply
One thing for sure in that debate. Peter Peckarsky as no chance .Only two really in it is Ellison and Perez and i'm leaning towards Ellison
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I don't like Pence. He looks shady.
He has the appearance of a soul collector in his human shell.
Freedom - yup, the freedom to not be able to afford healthcare.
Individual responsibility - yup, why can't you afford it? and why do you have pre-existing conditions...tough luck bitch
I called this 'compassionate christian' a cnut and twitter put my account on 'restriction' for the next 12 hours
Freedom - yup, the freedom to not be able to afford healthcare.
Individual responsibility - yup, why can't you afford it? and why do you have pre-existing conditions...tough luck bitch
I called this 'compassionate christian' a cnut and twitter put my account on 'restriction' for the next 12 hours
Love the first response. Death is not a replacement that works, FYI.
The fact that a professional politician is calling it 'ObamaCare' rather than its proper name tells us all we need to know about the agenda.
Freedom - yup, the freedom to not be able to afford healthcare.
Individual responsibility - yup, why can't you afford it? and why do you have pre-existing conditions...tough luck bitch
I called this 'compassionate christian' a cnut and twitter put my account on 'restriction' for the next 12 hours
Actually he makes a lot of sense. He is about freedom for insurances to not cover people and the boards capitalistic responsibilities to maximize profits without risks.
They have to. When their supporters find out that they're trying to ban the Affordable Care Act, they get very angry.
ACA had genuine problems - but, Obama and the Democrats have been trying to fix the problems for the last 6 years! Republicans obviously didn't want to help and have worked actively to make the problems worse.
I know, it's disgusting, really despicable. As I said in my mini rant early this morning, I just can't fathom how these people can call themselves compassionate Christians when stuff like this shows them to be quite the opposite.
He is the former governor of the state I used to live in. I still have friends there.
One word: Knut.
Wasnt a very competent gov.
That sums it up nicely. Like the cartoon in the Election thread of the pregnant girl surrounded by protesting Republicans saying no to abortion etc, then when it's born they abandon both mother and child to fend for themselves with no benefits etc. Their faux compassion is all for show. Since my near death illness, I've spoken to many people on this site who have had serious illness and surgery etc, it really could happen to anyone so yet again it's a case of "i'm alright Jack, feck everyone else" Most people in the US are literally one illness away from complete ruin, both financially, mentally and physically. The pre-existing conditions clauses were absolutely disgusting and I can't even guess how many people it condemned to death or a life of poverty.
It just goes to show that people really don't understand what they have until it's gone. The ACA has been a blessing to so many and the vast majority of horror stories have been exposed to be scaremongering or outright lies. I sincerely hope Raoul is right on this one and it could spell destruction for Trump and co. They do appear to be backed in to a corner here. If they do repeal and replace it and people lose their insurance or it costs them more money they really can kiss goodbye to any hope of getting re-elected again in 2020.
Would it be too much to hope that after such an event, both parties could get back to trying to govern, seeing that just blocking is no long-term strategy? Yeah, probably too much to hope...
Freedom - yup, the freedom to not be able to afford healthcare.
Individual responsibility - yup, why can't you afford it? and why do you have pre-existing conditions...tough luck bitch
I called this 'compassionate christian' a cnut and twitter put my account on 'restriction' for the next 12 hours
And most probably the freedom to decide on whether or not to get insurance in the first place.
The problem with healthcare is that both sides are partially wrong and are unable to admit that. The republicans are unable to answer the question, how they want to deal with people who can't afford healthcare. They just pretend that this problem doesn't exist. The democrats can't admit, that despite its good intentions, the ACA is very bad legislation, that creates many negative secondary effects, while trying to deal with the problem of preexisting conditions. Both sides are in total denial about basic facts.
For those interested in watching democracy in process then this video is good. It contains the republican senator Tom Cotton being absolutely roasted by an woman and the crowd in Arkansans:
Watch from 20.20 and you can see the woman do an absolutely great job at forcing him to answer her question. People really are waking up regarding the importance of the Affordable Care Act and the republican rhetoric have fallen short recently. Tom tried to continue on to try avoid answering her but the crowd were having non of his behaviour. The woman deserve praise for her knowledge and persistence. If anyone says wait and see what they do before acting then you would see the ACA go poof and no coverage for millions of people as a result. The fight back from the ordinary people will make a massive difference unless the republican party wants to commit political suicide.
Watch from 20.20 and you can see the woman do an absolutely great job at forcing him to answer her question. People really are waking up regarding the importance of the Affordable Care Act and the republican rhetoric have fallen short recently. Tom tried to continue on to try avoid answering her but the crowd were having non of his behaviour. The woman deserve praise for her knowledge and persistence. If anyone says wait and see what they do before acting then you would see the ACA go poof and no coverage for millions of people as a result. The fight back from the ordinary people will make a massive difference unless the republican party wants to commit political suicide.
Kellyanne Conway barred from TV
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/kellyanne-conway-barred-tv-report-article-1.2979564
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/kellyanne-conway-barred-tv-report-article-1.2979564
how much do you know about the ACA? Are you American? If you are, you'd know - no American given a choice would NOT have insurance. Medical costs here are beyond belief.
Are you aware these are some of the reason exemptions are given -
- the mandate doesn’t apply to American Indians
- to people who have religious objections
- to people who earn too little to be required to file an income tax return
- homelessness
- domestic violence
- being evicted from a residence
- having a utility cut off
- property damage from a fire or flood
- even a canceled insurance plan
- people can avoid the penalty if a close family member has died recently or
- if they have medical expenses resulting in substantial debt.
And you know what happens to people who choose to exercise the joys of not having insurance - they decide...hey, I'll just go to the emergency room, where the hospitals and doctors are legally bound to provide medical care.
Because you know - that's the kind of healthcare system we should aim for.
This topic always reminds me of the Sopranos:
I love how Americans have the ability to make up a chant out of the blue and run with it in seconds.
I completely agree I was just trying to expand on what Pence might unterstand with more freedom. I know the ACA and all it's basic concepts including the mandate to avert adverse selection. But the mandate is legally speaking a limitation to one's freedom although one that is by all means justified.
Have we talked about Tillerson's seeming irrelevance so far? At this point you'd have to say he seems to be about 6th or worse in the pecking order as far as FoPo influence: Bannon, Kushner and Mattis seem to make a top 3, when Flynn was still onboard he might round out a top 4. Then maybe Pence? Priebus? But even Bob Corker (Sen. chair for Foreign Relation Committee) seems more influential than Tillerson right now. Just read a quick take on Politico that Tillerson has asked his team for ways to improve his media relevance, to start.
The only ones who would chose not to have would be
1) The very wealthy since they would not likely be ruined by medical bills. Though they also are generally not stupid about money and might see value in having insurance or have it provided in full by one of the companies they own or sit on the board for.
2) There perhaps might be those who fall into a situation where they can not get enough help via ACA to afford Health Insurance and can not afford it (though the offset is high medical bills if some one gets ill). Though they might qualify for an exemption you mention above.
This might require a massive answer, but as someone who's relatively unfamiliar with the ACA, what are its downfalls and why does Trump want rid? (I'm assuming they're not the same reason, seeing as Trump is anything but
Wow, she nailed him. Great stuff. This is how journalists should be asking them questions.
The good and the bad - https://www.thebalance.com/obamacare-pros-and-cons-3306059 As I stated, there were clearly some aspects of it, that were problematic - but they were fixable. But, the Republicans decided - they wanted to get rid of it, not make the small adjustments necessary. As for costs - just remember, we give billions in military aid to countries like Israel and Egypt and think nothing of it.
I fear everyday for my children's lives in school yet have never once given a second thought to an Islamic terrorist blowing me up at a strip mall. That's what I call terrorism, Adam Lanza and his stupid ignorant mother.
Sad thing is they will still vote for who ever has a (R) next to their names. Blue states are far better in most ways to red states so it's their own fault. Most of these people may not have voted for Trump which I doubt but it's almost a certainty that they voted republican right down the ballot. I have one sympathy for people who are only starting to realize that Obamacare and ACA are the same thing.
There he is again, protecting American jobs...
http://www.thejournal.ie/norwegian-air-ireland-2-3254787-Feb2017/
http://www.thejournal.ie/norwegian-air-ireland-2-3254787-Feb2017/
Then you don't understand the definition of terrorism.
What does that have to do with Trump & the US?
It's great for the Irish economy and more flights between two countries who provide lots of tourism for each other can only be a good thing.
The aviation unions and American airlines are against the entry of this airline into their market, and have been for the last three years. They have specifically petitioned Trump not to allow it (since he's all about protecting US industries, right?) and he hasn't listened to them. It's all in the article, actually.
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