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Interesting read if you go through the whole thread.
Interesting read if you go through the whole thread.
Milo has resigned from Breitbart?
Jump before you're pushed springs to mind...
As someone on facebook put it, he's been alt-fired.
Alt-right poster boy, at a time when the alt-right is getting a lot of attention cause of Trump.why is the person newsworthy and all over my social media feeds?!
He's correct.
Yep, a very interesting read with some interesting home truths a lot of Americans could do with having a look at. Europe's far from perfect, of course, and high numbers of refugees in Germany and Sweden have undoubtedly caused certain social problems but this narrative that both countries have descended into chaos, with everyone in danger, needs to stop.
I don't disagree with that assessment but it's funny that even with all our problems Europe is still a more desirable place to reside.
He's very correct. It's uncanny.He's correct.
Im really confused at how right wing conservative groups can have a gay weirdo as its poster boy?Alt-right poster boy, at a time when the alt-right is getting a lot of attention cause of Trump.
Im really confused at how right wing conservative groups can have a gay weirdo as its poster boy?
But his Icarus like story is indicative for how Trump's will soon enough end .... there is just too much murky yuck in these uncensored character's past that will eventually make their position untenable.
Got it... we are progressive as our gay mate is more 'shocking' than your one?Kind of like a moral points scoring idea. "We're not regressive, we've got a gay mate," type of thing.
Im really confused at how right wing conservative groups can have a gay weirdo as its poster boy?
But his Icarus like story is indicative for how Trump's will soon enough end .... there is just too much murky yuck in these uncensored character's past that will eventually make their position untenable.
or maybe you could consider - just for a second - that the majority of people that you call "alt-right" are not die-hard NeoNazis. Maybe they just enjoy that someone riles up people that they perceive as incredible obnoxious, patronising and annoying. That or there are millions and millions of white supremacists out there, who just wait for the right timing to start the purge. Maybe we really are a purge planet.
It helps them believe that they arent racist/homophobic
Its akin to thinking you can spout racist shit because you have 'a black friend'
or maybe you could consider - just for a second - that the majority of people that you call "alt-right" are not die-hard NeoNazis. Maybe they just enjoy that someone riles up people that they perceive as incredible obnoxious, patronising and annoying. That or there are millions and millions of white supremacists out there, who just wait for the right timing to start the purge. Maybe we really are a purge planet.
Has Trump shared his pizza preferences yet?
He's possibly using a Rick And Morty-ismWhat's a purge planet?
I personally don't agree at all, I think Trumps manner and attitude is extremely disrespectful and provocative. I think he will only upset both, and everyone else he treats with similar disdain. He's also not clever enough or respected enough to get away with treating other countries the way he does. Just look at the debate in the House of Parliament here in England today, he was slated almost as badly as he gets in here for nearly 4 hours by MP's of all parties. Face it, he and the way he acts gains no respect for himself and now for the country he represents. He's an embarrassment and other countries will treat him as one.
Really? You can say that with a straight face can you? Anyone could see the trouble it would cause and it wasn't unfortunate, it was uncalled for and completely needless and racist. Like his attitude to foreign countries, it was exceptionally provocative too. The USA is one of the hardest countries to enter anyway, especially for those coming from the countries he banned people from. Also, all the recent attacks on the USA have been carried out by home grown citizens. Let's not forget that 9/11 was predominately carried out by people from Saudi Arabia, yet they weren't on the list. I wonder why?
So why cause more provocation and upset more people and put the environment at risk? One of the posters here on the caf knows someone who can comment on it enough and he was disgusted by it. It was a pathetic attempt to appease his supporters that he promised he would keep mining jobs and bring more new ones, something anyone with any intelligence knows is almost impossible because it's a dying industry. Like he keeps on banging on about coal not understanding it's not being used or mined for reasons, like it not being economical anymore or that natural gas and the abundance of it is far more economical. You would like to think he knows this and couldn't be that stupid, but then you realise he is that stupid and just full of shit.
Make America great again. Again. To which period are you referring, the 1950's?
Okay, so how many consecutive mistakes must be made before you change your mind on him? If he doesn't learn from this and his next travel ban EO is a shit show too, then what? Give him another chance?
Running simultaneously alongside that he is deliberately spewing inaccurate information whenever he gets to a microphone. Maybe only small things, alternative facts here and there, but do they add up? Do you treat every little lie individually and write it off or do you say, hang on, it's the 3rd time this week? Are these feck ups allowed to run alongside the bigger feck ups and at what point do you say enough is enough?
I'm not easily offended I just had enough several mistakes and lies back.
Where did you get that from? The term was coined by Richard Spencer - the founder of Alternative Right (website). Now, there is a link to the Old Right, that's not denied, but this is a branch of American conservatism and it has nothing to do with Germany or nazism, as far as I am aware.Just a quick one for those talking about 'alt-right'.
For the real alt-righters, it doesn't mean alternative right, it is alt, as in German for Old. About 80 years old.
Associate with that, don't be surprised when someone calls you a neo-nazi (not a word to be capitalised either), because that is where the alt-right comes from.
Where did you get that from? The term was coined by Richard Spencer - the founder of Alternative Right (website). Now, there is a link to the Old Right, that's not denied, but this is a branch of American conservatism and it has nothing to do with Germany or nazism, as far as I am aware.
Okay, I'm up. Let's go.
Firstly, I don't think it's a question of 'getting away with' something. That could imply something along the lines of countries like Iran and China having the ability to make America pay for Trump's supposed transgressions. Whatever you meant, I simply don't think entering office and letting them know that he's not going to be a soft touch is anything to be worried about. China in particular needs to understand that America will inevitably push back when they test them that bit too much, certainly now that Trump is the president. Passive presidents won't work on China.
I say it with a straight face, sure. Immigration from these countries definitely needs to be carefully monitored. Even if the execution was shoddy, people need to better understand the intention. Terrorist attacks haven't been committed by people from the countries on the list? Yeah, and neither were attacks committed by Saudis prior to 9/11. We're dealing with a growing threat and we're looking to the future, not waiting around with our dicks in our hands for it to happen. We know that extremism is fomented in such places, so let's take action when we still have time on our side. On the Saudi question, it's been an American ally and administration upon administration before Trump consolidated that relationship. To enter office and tear up that alliance would set very dangerous precedent. I'd be all for them being on the list if I was ignorant with respect to how politics actually work. The fact is, it's politics, and not just Trump's.
There's serious discord about mining jobs. Coal mining will be phased out, which isn't to say it needs to be wiped out instantaneously. The industry is on its knees and people from those communities are desperate enough. People within the industry are fully aware that it's only going that way. I'm looking at it from their perspective, and arguments like "it's not economical" don't immediately solve their problems. We're all so environmentally friendly that we're too busy focusing on that to bother addressing real people's lives are at stake. If Obama had given them 'HOPE' instead of going for the throat, we'd have been in a better position to not have to reconsider certain laws just to appease them.
I think you're taking a campaign slogan too seriously. 'Make America Great Again' can be construed in many ways. I choose to see it as an inspiration to Americans on a personal level, with it asking the question, "do you think there's something about America that was good and got worse? If so, get up and strive to improve that." In other words, Make Your America Great again. Of course, all messages can have negative connotations if you choose to see them that way.
I'm not sure which mistakes you're referring to here. The EO was hastily put together, it was rightly stopped by a judge, and they'll ensure next time that it won't be repeated. I can pick an arbitrary number if that would ease your mind, but I already answered the question - I'm confident that next time they'll get it right. Essentially, enough will be enough when he's been given a chance and failed. Cries for impeachment barely a month in - and who can realistically consider a month as a chance - seem very impulsive. With regards to the inaccurate information that has supposedly been deliberately spewed, we'd need to look at on those on an individual basis before jumping to conclusions about it all being intentional.
That is all well and good, obviously the perception of a President who can't be pushed around is a good thing (no puppet) but like you said, the threat of an attack is what Trump is going on the offensive over, why doesn't he try and use the wave he is riding to help fix some of the immediate issues America is currently facing, like gun crime, poverty, disproportionate division of wealth and internal racism??
I haven't noticed that interest from the Old Right but that's another topic. I was talking about etymology and origin, not ideological platform.Apart from their interest in genocide.
But he has...why doesn't he try and use the wave he is riding to help fix some of the immediate issues America is currently facing, like gun crime, poverty, disproportionate division of wealth and internal racism?
We're one month in. This is something that really is worth keeping in mind. All of those things aren't going to happen overnight.
Yeah, but you would think that these would be the things he would prioritise when wanting to make a big statement early on.
I haven't noticed that interest from the Old Right but that's another topic. I was talking about etymology and origin, not ideological platform.
Im really confused at how right wing conservative groups can have a gay weirdo as its poster boy?
But he is apparently taking on a new role as occasional information source and validator for the president of the United States, with whom, Mr. Jones says, he sometimes speaks on the phone.
Whatever you meant, I simply don't think entering office and letting them know that he's not going to be a soft touch is anything to be worried about. China in particular needs to understand that America will inevitably push back when they test them that bit too much, certainly now that Trump is the president. Passive presidents won't work on China.
I say it with a straight face, sure. Immigration from these countries definitely needs to be carefully monitored.
There's serious discord about mining jobs. Coal mining will be phased out, which isn't to say it needs to be wiped out instantaneously. The industry is on its knees and people from those communities are desperate enough. People within the industry are fully aware that it's only going that way. I'm looking at it from their perspective, and arguments like "it's not economical" don't immediately solve their problems. We're all so environmentally friendly that we're too busy focusing on that to bother addressing real people's lives are at stake. If Obama had given them 'HOPE' instead of going for the throat, we'd have been in a better position to not have to reconsider certain laws just to appease them.
Every radical movement consists of a relatively small core of hardcore ideologues, apparatchiks, militants and a vast majority of bystanders who either cheer them on or back them indirectly through victim-blaming. These bystanders always have various reasons, but what really matters is their practical behaviour. They back up and encourage the militants, they give them legitimacy. Even if some of them don't like the radical avantgarde of that movement, they still despise their victims much more.or maybe you could consider - just for a second - that the majority of people that you call "alt-right" are not die-hard NeoNazis. Maybe they just enjoy that someone riles up people that they perceive as incredible obnoxious, patronising and annoying. That or there are millions and millions of white supremacists out there, who just wait for the right timing to start the purge. Maybe we really are a purge planet.