Somehow Macedonia is able to stop them without killing them.
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Nah, Israel is the worst country in the world
They just sneak around or through
so why do they attack Macedonia's police, when they could just "sneak around or through"?
Don't go to Infowars it will seriously rot your brain.
To be fair, in France they sneak through but still attack the Police from time to time.
Tunisia, Algeria and the Balkans have all known conflict recently. And yes people will move for economic reason, we conquered half the world for it.
So a singular shot?
Because the Macedonian police are trying to stop them sneaking around or through
None of them today qualify as refugees by the very definition of the word. And there are simply no capacity for immigration in a mass scale due to economic reasons.
Yes a singular shot. It would take a riot of biblical proportions for Swedish \ Scandinavian police start spraying bullets. Police here don't even wear guns except for extremely volatile situations.
If anyone had to make an educated and unbiased guess, what % of the current anti-semitism is being done by his 47%?
The idea that states can’t control boarders is absurd. Nobody claims, that boarders get 100% air-tight, but investing money in border controls reduces the amount of people who can cross this boarder illegally.
That might be difficult in the USA, that has an extremly long border with Mexico (even so, boarder security makes a huge difference even in this region), but the idea that Europe would be unable to control its external borders is bogus. It might not be pretty for a while, but you don’t need to shoot anyone to do it. Europe decided that it doesn’t want to close its external borders for a variety of reasons, but that has little to do with the realistic possibility to do so.
yes. thats how border security works. You stop them and send them the other way. So it works.
The problem is not an immigration problem but a social problem. The crime rates between Germans of the same education level with the same age are the same of that of similar people with foreign background. Yes, being foreign born with lesser chances because of your education is a risk as your chance is higher to have social problems - but a migration background is not really the reason why somebody is criminal or not. It is a factor like being black, born from a single mother or living in a bad area makes it more probable that you get criminal than being white and living in a good area with proper education in the US.
The most important thing is the social question.
This sort of sentiment is pretty much proof that Trump is damned if he does / damned if he doesn't , in which case there's little incentive for him to depart from his previous positions.
Yes non of them qualify as refugees but they will still come, and then they have to go through the system. Which is what Sweden are doing. You can't build a fence across the Med
Sound to me like a feck up by the police, shoot to kill once, not hit anything then the problem disappeared? Sounds like no shot needed to be fired
You can try but I'm sure they wont stop them all
The french boarders in Europe are 2889km long, the US-Mexico boader 3200km. I don't think that you realize how long french boarders are.
A good, and much needed post on the broader topic. It does no good at all for discussions on immigration to take place in a series of echo chambers; which is how things have mostly been in recent years.
Ironically, i do believe that the US does much better than Europe when it comes to integration.
It's his fault for doing the right thing at the wrong time.
Speaking out against Anti-antisemitism is a slam dunk in the US. Easy win...it's not like he had to denounce islamophobia - we have studies trying to prove it doesn't even exist
All he had to do was say - antisemitism is disgusting and unacceptable and we will continue to work to fight against it. Instead, he gave his rambling non-answer in the press conference the other day.
In the past month, Trump has missed quite a few layups - for a guy who loves playing to the gallery and time and time has proven he has his finger on the pulse of the masses - these missteps are really strange.
I never said, that every country in the EU should control its own boarders. I was talking specifically about the external borders of the EU and in reality you only need to put emphasis on specific areas, where most of the refugees/migrants try to enter he EU.
It's not even close...everyone that comes here can't wait to be 'american'. From personal experience, muslims in the US have very little in common with their muslim brethren in Europe, be it in the UK or France.
well. We are at step one again. Why do they attack the police, when they don’t have any problem to enter anyway? And why do they camp out in camps in Greece, where they clearly don't want to stay?
We do, which is why the immigration question should be handled differently in the US on its own terms.
True, you will never be able to stop 100% of all people entering a country or keeping it as 100% entering through legal channels. But you can make sure it stays reasonably under control.
Why is that ironical? Almost everyone comes from immigration in the US and the American dream is based on reinventing yourself.
Do we need a thread just to discuss immigration/refugee issues? Granted those issues will always be entwined with the other politics thread, so there will always be overlap.
Refugees aren't dumb, they've traveled thousands of miles on foot, they travel a bit more to get around your areas of emphasis
Indeed. For all that there might be other areas of societal conflict, the sense of national identity and belief in a grander ideal, is present across ethnic/religious divides. Europe (including the UK) struggles with both concepts, and rather gets the jitters when considering them.
You can. But the bulk of people came in response to the Syria and Libya crises, and they came in numbers that could never be controlled
He's got more medals than Muttley...
Yet it still doesn't make the social unrest any less
An NYT op-ed from the new security advisor (2013): http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/21/opinion/sunday/the-pipe-dream-of-easy-war.html
For some reason they are not doing it and stay in Greece.
For some reason they are not doing it and stay in Greece.
Ironic, considering how Trump chooses to fame the debate. This post hits the mark. There's a discussion to be had but it's not the same.:
Because the police try to stop them. Some times they'll succeed, sometimes they won't.
They may not want to stay in Greece but they may decide it's better than moving north
Once they have an EU passport they won't have to stay
We really are totally off topic but the EU doesn't have borders per se, each country is sovereign and has full control of its own borders, particularly external borders. So unless you are suggesting that the EU should take control of Greek borders, they will be the only one controlling them.
I once saw someone suggest that Hollywood played a part in it, people that migrates to the US have already started the process of integration because they are well aware of the values and principals that lead the country. In Europe immigrants are sometimes hit by the cultural differences and expectations.
Seems to be a few Trumpets around now, maybe they'll comment?
Let's do this!
1. How does a completely unrelated issue vindicate Clinton? Settling a lawsuit doesn't automatically make you a crook, nor does it disprove somebody else isn't.
2. There's no law requiring him to do so. If people are that bothered by it, they should pressure politicians to make one requiring candidates to release them.
3. Sources would be nice here. We can't lump all of those conflicts into the same criticism, not when some may need more time to be sorted. It's important to remember that there's never been a successful businessman like Donald Trump to become president, not in modern times. It makes it unprecedented and unpredictable as a result, which is to say there's a question as to whether or not our expectations are realistic.
4. Yep, he brought the Goldman Sachs people in. Does that make him a complete hypocrite? Not necessarily. I'd rather see them in the public eye by being among his administration than working behind the scenes and pulling the strings that way. The latter is far more dangerous, an option Clinton
5. 'Best' and 'smartest' are very subjective. Ask yourself this - do your political beliefs align with Trump's? No? Chances are this would always be a stick to beat him with.
6. Literally every candidate says this or something to that effect. Trump is far from unique. As much as "what about [other person]!" is traditionally a cheap tactic, it definitely applies here. As for DeVos, that's a questionable pick. What is also questionable is if it was Trump who picked her, or perhaps it was pressure from all of those Republicans she's donated to.
7. Can anybody even explain what the 'swamp' is? People look to have settled on a very simplistic definition of 'a person who is rich'. The 'swamp' is traditionally home to some very nasty people who've enabled plenty of their friends to get rich. Trump's people are already rich and can put other interests ahead of financial gain. Even if they're in it for more money, big deal. He'll have reneged on one of his promises like every president who has ever lived.
8. Do we know that the Generals said this? For such a top secret meeting, that's a pretty emphatic analysis about the Generals. I'd need more info on this one.
9. One Tweet or a few at the most doesn't take that much time. And he slept? The guy getting four hours every night needed to sleep? Who'd have thought it. As for the moment he picked, once again, it's something that's lacking much to back it up.
10. Actually, I think more a case of being just grateful to those news agencies than relying on them. Maybe he references them and has spread the occasional story of theirs, but I don't expect it's like his dependence on Fox News, which, albeit hardly totally reliable itself, is one he obviously pays the most attention to.
11. Old habits die hard. I guess he'll start spending more time in Washington. For now, it's about giving him time to adjust to the role.
12. There's no 12. Stop reading and get a hobby.
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