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Not sure I see the point of people in London protesting about a democratically-elected American President.
 
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Kind of want him to visit now, his welcome will be a fun one.
 
Not sure I see the point of people in London protesting about a democratically-elected American President.

Will it accomplish much objectively? Probably not. But I can see the satisfaction is sticking it to his ego where he sees he's hated in other parts of the world. It says a lot about a political figure when people of another country end up, as you say, protesting a democratically elected president.
 
The beauty of living in a democratic country is that it is our right to protest things we do not agree with.

People like Fearless who post here anger me greatly. He is so rude and condescending about everything that happened and likes to tell us all to shut up and accept it all, not understanding the irony of his statements. It's refreshing really, yes, unfortunately the UK did vote to leave the EU, but it was damn close and it was mainly because of the disgusting lies told by the leave campaign AND the problem that the remain campaign were too arrogant and didn't get their side across to the voters well enough. BUT! So many people have said they regret their vote, it's small comfort, but if the vote was tomorrow we would be back in the EU.

Over in the USA Trump won, but LOST the popular vote and quite considerably too, and from both these events the reaction has been magnificent and people have started to be motivated to take action in the right ways. Peaceful protests, campaigning, getting information out there and hopefully come election time, voting. That's why people on the right are getting shit scared because they know the power their movement had, and they can see they are woefully outnumbered and that they are now fighting to keep hold of what they have just won because they know their time in power will be short.
 


Personally, I had a deal more sympathy and time for the London Women's March.


Kind of want him to visit now, his welcome will be a fun one.

What speculation i have heard, expects him to reside at a country residence.
 
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@langster I'm all for having videos that poke fun at 45 and his gang separate from this general thread. However, I don't 'own' the cartoon thread, just opened it after you suggested it because I was about to post some cartoons here. :) Perhaps a mod can change the title to 'videos and cartoons'?
 
@langster I'm all for having videos that poke fun at 45 and his gang separate from this general thread. However, I don't 'own' the cartoon thread, just opened it after you suggested it because I was about to post some cartoons here. :) Perhaps a mod can change the title to 'videos and cartoons'?

:lol: Yeah, I know was just asking your opinion if you thought it would fit in there or needs a separate thread? Personally, I think it would fit in the Cartoon thread, as we don't want the whole CE forum as just Trump threads. There's no problem here usually, it's just if there's mad discussion going on it's tough to keep track and they often get missed.
 
:lol: Yeah, I know was just asking your opinion if you thought it would fit in there or needs a separate thread? Personally, I think it would fit in the Cartoon thread, as we don't want the whole CE forum as just Trump threads. There's no problem here usually, it's just if there's mad discussion going on it's tough to keep track and they often get missed.
I'd suggest one consolidated 'Let's laugh at Trump & gang' thread. That way all sorts of cartoons, funny pictures or videos (e.g. the handshakes clips), SNL and other shows' videos would fit in.
 
Spicey's definition of abundantly clear is laughable.

 
@langster and @Crossie

I personally think we shoud keep the video clips in here. They are very much part of this thread due to sending out a message and news to readers. People can also then comment in here. Too many threads on similar subject will just weaken this thread.
 
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@langster and @Crossie

I personally think we shoud keep the video clips in here. They are the very much part of this thread due to sending out a message and news to the readers. People can also then comment in here. Too many threads on similar subject will just weaken this thread.

Yeah, I agree, I was just thinking about some of the youtube only threads and they can take ages to load and also crash some browsers. It's just frustrating that they get missed in here that's all. The perils of a popular thread I suppose.
 
@langster and @Crossie

I personally think we shoud keep the video clips in here. They are very much part of this thread due to sending out a message and news to readers. People can also then comment in here. Too many threads on similar subject will just weaken this thread.
I'm okay with whatever you mods decide.
 
One person familiar with the discussions said the employees were told the new calculations were to be presented to members of Congress.

The effect of such a change would be particularly stark on data involving countries that have free trade deals with the U.S., this person said—and in some cases the new methodology could even change a trade surplus into a trade deficit.

Trump trade officials said the idea is part of an early discussion and that they are examining various options. It is unclear whether the administration would adopt any new approach for measuring trade as part of official government data, or just use the higher deficit calculation to make the case for new trade deals.

 
Scotland was way ahead of you soft southerners when it comes to Trump protests.

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Huge riots in Sweden last night with 10+ cars being set on fire, stones thrown at police and police shooting to kill, yes you read right - police in Scandinavia shooting to kill. That is so surreal that you can't even imagine it, you almost have to have grown up here to understand the absurdity of it.

So yes, Trump is very much right about Sweden. His initial comment about a singular happening was wrong, but in broad strokes he is very much in the right about Sweden.
 
Huge riots in Sweden last night with 10+ cars being set on fire, stones thrown at police and police shooting to kill, yes you read right - police in Scandinavia shooting to kill. That is so surreal that you can't even imagine it, you almost have to have grown up here to understand the absurdity of it.

So yes, Trump is very much right about Sweden. His initial comment about a singular happening was wrong, but in broad strokes he is very much in the right about Sweden.
Right about what? He probably can't pinpoint Sweden on the map.

He himself admits he got the information from Fox News and thought he would milk it to dignify his immigration stance, irrespective of how tenuous or non existent it was. Think you're giving him a tad bit too much credit.
 
Right about what? He probably can't pinpoint Sweden on the map.

He himself admits he got the information from Fox News and thought he would milk it to dignify his immigration stance, irrespective of how tenuous or non existent it was. Think you're giving him a tad bit too much credit.

He is right (and Norwegian, Danish and now actually Swedish media agrees with him) that the rate of immigration and refugee influx in Sweden without a plan has been not sustainable, and that is why this is happening.

There is no housing, there is no jobs, there is no capacity at schools or hospitals and money is starting to get scarce.

Trump probably didn't know this or can't place Sweden on a map, you are right about that one. But there is no denying that the situation in Sweden is very real.
 
He is right (and Norwegian, Danish and now actually Swedish media agrees with him) that the rate of immigration and refugee influx in Sweden without a plan has been not sustainable, and that is why this is happening.

There is no housing, there is no jobs, there is no capacity at schools or hospitals and money is starting to get scarce.

Trump probably didn't know this or can't place Sweden on a map, you are right about that one. But there is no denying that the situation in Sweden is very real.

I don't know the context but the incidents happened in Rinkeby, a place described as troublesome and that was the case before the refugee influx. So why should we consider that the refugees are the cause of last night incidents?
 
I don't know the context but the incidents happened in Rinkeby, a place described as troublesome and that was the case before the refugee influx. So why should we consider that the refugees are the cause of last night incidents?

Because immigrants/migration is the new buzz word to explain away the failure of governments to balance the imbalances of social inequality.
 


Why on earth is this committee chairman taking issue with the call being recorded. Its not like the intelligence agencies had bugged Flynn's phone and that's how they know what was said in the call.

The reason it was being monitored/recorded was because the call was with the Russian ambassador and his communications get intercepted.
 
Because immigrants/migration is the new buzz word to explain away the failure of governments to balance the imbalances of social inequality.

I realize that. But in that case, we are talking about a place where apparently more than 80% of the population comes from immigration, that stat is older than the refugee crisis. So even if you blame immigration, why would that problem be linked with the current refugee crisis?

The reason why I'm asking that question is because, the answer will lead to totally different solutions. And logically to find the correct solution, you need to answer to the correct question.
 
Great choice. He's well known in military circles as an independent thinker. He wrote a book years ago that was critical of Vietnam era generals for not challenging political leaders of the time (President Johnson particularly), which sort of shows how he may deal with Trump. He's also not the sort of personality that would stand for Bannon running roughshot over NSC staff.

You know anything of his views of Islam / the Middle East / jihad, etc.?
 
Why on earth is this committee chairman taking issue with the call being recorded. Its not like the intelligence agencies had bugged Flynn's phone and that's how they know what was said in the call.

The reason it was being monitored/recorded was because the call was with the Russian ambassador and his communications get intercepted.
Because it's happening to Republicans and not to people Republicans think it's okay to monitor.
 
He is right (and Norwegian, Danish and now actually Swedish media agrees with him) that the rate of immigration and refugee influx in Sweden without a plan has been not sustainable, and that is why this is happening.

There is no housing, there is no jobs, there is no capacity at schools or hospitals and money is starting to get scarce.

Trump probably didn't know this or can't place Sweden on a map, you are right about that one. But there is no denying that the situation in Sweden is very real.

There was trouble in certain areas in Sweden even before the current immigrations happened - and that does not have to do with Muslims. Rosengarden in Malmö - where Ibrahimovic comes from - is a place like this since 20 or 30 years.
 
I realize that. But in that case, we are talking about a place where apparently more than 80% of the population comes from immigration, that stat is older than the refugee crisis. So even if you blame immigration, why would that problem be linked with the current refugee crisis?

The reason why I'm asking that question is because, the answer will lead to totally different solutions. And logically to find the correct solution, you need to answer to the correct question.

These problems are linked to the refugee crisis because a lot of the people who participate in the gangs who weekly throw grenades and have shootouts with full auto's (also, you have to be from Scandinavia to understand how surreal things like these are in our societies) are "unga ensamtkommande" as they call them in Sweden, this means young, male and that they came by themselves.

Either they have been there for a few years and have been granted asylum, or they are of Moroccan, Tunisian, Algerian descent - and their background are important because it shows us that you can't send signals about open border policies since that then will attract a whole lot of people from countries that doesn't qualify for asylum. These young males are then left in "limbo" in society while their asylum application is being processed, and a whole lot of them disappear before they get their denied application. They then take refuge in places like Rinkeby, Rosengården and Tenstad and add to the already boiling powder keg.

Sweden have been terrible naive and are now feeling the consequences.
 
I realize that. But in that case, we are talking about a place where apparently more than 80% of the population comes from immigration, that stat is older than the refugee crisis. So even if you blame immigration, why would that problem be linked with the current refugee crisis?

The reason why I'm asking that question is because, the answer will lead to totally different solutions. And logically to find the correct solution, you need to answer to the correct question.
Your questions are far too objective and problem-solving driven for populists like 45, Bannon, FN, AfD etc.
 
These problems are linked to the refugee crisis because a lot of the people who participate in the gangs who weekly throw grenades and have shootouts with full auto's (also, you have to be from Scandinavia to understand how surreal things like these are in our societies) are "unga ensamtkommande" as they call them in Sweden, this means young, male and that they came by themselves.

Either they have been there for a few years and have been granted asylum, or they are of Moroccan, Tunisian, Algerian descent, and their background is important because it shows us that you can't send signals about open border policies since that then will attract a whole lot of people from countries that doesn't qualify for asylum.

Sweden have been terrible naive and are now feeling the consequences.
With all due respect, I don't perceive you as coming across as qualified to know who exactly qualifies under Swedish law for asylum and who doesn't.
 
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