I don't think RvW is in huge danger. They've already fecked over women's rights on a state level where it's controversial; the political capital likely needed to do it on a national level isn't really even worth it.
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Cant wait to watch that tbh
The Supreme Court for the most part respects precedent it set in previous rulings. Roe vs Wade will not be an exception here.
The issue here, like you've highlighted, is the passing of sneaky measures that effectively restrict many women from getting abortion and other planned parenthood services. Still, it takes years for a case to rise from the district courts through the appeal system to the Supreme Court. That's assuming appellate courts don't smack frivolous laws down AND the SCOTUS grants them a hearing.
We just need RBG to keep it together for 4 more years, and for Kennedy to swing left more than usual. Hopefully Thomas is too dimwitted to leave within the next 4 years too.
This ! no dramatic change at the end of the 4 years, particularly, the wall, muslim ban, restoring coal and steel productions are just a joke
Easy... in 2002 Kennedy as the floater was basically pro-choice. There were four justices to the left of him in 2002 (Stevens, Ginsberg, Breyer, Souter).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Kennedy#Abortion
Kennedy would still be a floater today though. So what's different ?
That's already been happening for years. Where have you people been?
They don't even need to overturn RvW to make it nearly impossible in any state that doesn't want it.
If a liberal justice dies and is replaced by a conservative justice, Kennedy would no longer be the floater. Ginsberg is 83.
Not if RBG retires during the Trump years. She's already getting up there in terms of age.
Trump could easily make 2 if not 3 appointments. Especially if lasts the full 8.
Indeed. Which should give you some idea of the direction of travel abortion rights are in. It may become literally impossible, rather than merely almost impossible.
I don't know why you lot are all so sure the USA is impervious to social regression. It can happen anywhere if the political weather is right. And it's looking like there's a storm on the horizon to me.
That's a hypothetical though. Some Justices just keep going and going.
Ginsberg could keep going if she really wanted to - 4 years wouldn't be unreasonable. JP Stevens only just retired at 90 in 2010.
Ok, so we're betting abortion rights on the ability of a single 83 year old (already frail) woman to last until she's 87 (and possibly 91). We're in agreement.She won't step down. But she might die. Justices aren't immortal.
I think RvW is completely safe. Climate deals and normalizing relations with Iran...not so much.
The right to protest is fundamental in a democracy, but in the immediate aftermath of an election, before the elected official has even taken office, tens of thousands of people disrupting life in major cities with noisy demonstrations is logically seen as rejection of the democratic outcome.
Wait until you've got something to protest about before streaming onto the streets. Otherwise your actions can only be seen as an attempt to bully your fellow citizens into kowtowing to a point of view which has just been defeated at the polls.
Well there are a lot of paranoid assumptions going into the fear that RvW will get overturned. First, you dont know that whoever Trump nominates to replace Scalia will be staunchly anti-abortion. He could be a moderate floater like Kennedy or he could be a liberal Republican like Souter, who was nominated under Bush I and eventually annoyed Conservatives by taking a lot of liberal positions. 2nd, you also don't know who would replace Ginsberg or Kennedy if they retired. It could be another moderate for all we know.
I wouldn't describe it as 'paranoid'. It's more likely than not that a socially conservative justice would be nominated and confirmed, given the current reality in Washington.
We're not dealing in certainties, we're dealing in possibilities. There is a significant possibility abortion becomes illegal (to some degree) in the USA in the next 5-10 years.
I'd bite their hand off if they offered 3 Souters on the court. Making abortion nearly impossible has been ruled unconstitutional by appellate courts in several states, based on prior precedent set, and convincing arguments by the ACLU.
I'm not too worried about abortion at the moment. Navigating a case to the Supreme Court is a game of chess, and a 4 year window isn't wide enough to fit something through (phrasing, boom) that'll completely reverse the status quo.
Alito and Roberts are the most liberal you'd get out of Republicans at the moment.
He's already said he will only nominate judges approved by the Heritage Foundation.
There's a lot of assumptions regarding overturning Roe v Wade, but it's equally naive to assume in this day and age you'd get Kennedy or Souter.
Thomas already hinted at retiring, so yeah, that's a minimum of 2 he'll get to fill. 2 modern Scalias.
The complexion of the supreme court lasts a lot longer than four years. The anti-abortion lobby just need to get 5 friendly justices on the court and then they have plenty of time to develop their test cases in the years that follow.
Roberts is completely fine as Republican leaning justices go. There are more conservatives pissed at him than there are ones that love him at the moment.
Help us RBG, you're our only hope.
Were you at the protest my daughter was at? If not you are making a huge set of assumptions. Please show me where my daughter did any of the things you mentioned.
I wouldn't say someone who has always voted against climate change action, healthcare or voting rights is fine. He doesn't believe there's a literal Satan though, silver lining and all that.
Though if I had to bet on one person, might be her.
I don't see abortion becoming illegal. Liberal women in big cities would simply revolt with support of media. There would be tremendous pressure and scrutiny on congress not to even pass any such measure. Abortion issue is just something republicans want to keep hanging in the air, something they can use for a long time for votes. I know that on state level they have passed a lot of draconian restrictions but on national level, don't expect any change.
We are poised to have a conservative Supreme Court for maybe 40 years.
I doubt they would try and repeal Roe v Wade, that'll set off a lot of protests in blue states. Instead of that, Amendments like Hyde and Helms will be passed effectively restricting abortions. If you like in a blue state, you have access to it, but not in a red state.
If Trump keeps eating food that comes in buckets there's a good chance Mike Pence becomes president.
Yup. It's already happening, though some of the shittier laws have been stopped by SC. Now there's no judicial shield.
Again, pure respect for how efficiently the Republicans advance their agenda (damn all other considerations) without facing electoral problems. Political mastery.
Exactly.
Of course, This is a presidential Trump, no reason why he would play to the nutty crowd.
President-elect Donald Trump’s transition team has announced that former Ohio secretary of state Ken Blackwell will be in charge of handling domestic policy issues in relation to the upcoming Trump administration’s legislative and executive priorities in its first hundred days
Blackwell, who currently works as a senior fellow at the Family Research Council, a Christian lobbying organization that lobbies lawmakers against LGBT rights, abortion and pornography, first gained national attention in 2006, when he was running to serve as Ohio’s governor.
In an interview at the time, Blackwell declared that homosexuality was a “lifestyle” that “can be changed.
“I think homosexuality is a lifestyle, it’s a choice, and that lifestyle can be changed,” Blackwell told the Columbus Dispatch at the time. “I think it is a transgression against God’s law, God’s will.”
“The reality is, again,” Blackwell continued, “that I think we make choices all the time. And I think you make good choices and bad choices in terms of lifestyle. Our expectation is that one’s genetic makeup might make one more inclined to be an arsonist or might make one more inclined to be a kleptomaniac. Do I think that they can be changed? Yes.”
Trump himself has said that, while he does not support same-sex marriage rights, he does support LGBT rights. Vice president-elect Mike Pence, on the other hand, first emerged on the national stage after signing an expansive anti-LGBT measure into law, and once signed into law a bill that would send same-sex couples attempting to obtain marriage licenses to jail.
President-elect Donald Trump’s transition team has announced that former Ohio secretary of state Ken Blackwell will be in charge of handling domestic policy issues in relation to the upcoming Trump administration’s legislative and executive priorities in its first hundred days
Blackwell, who currently works as a senior fellow at the Family Research Council, a Christian lobbying organization that lobbies lawmakers against LGBT rights, abortion and pornography, first gained national attention in 2006, when he was running to serve as Ohio’s governor.
In an interview at the time, Blackwell declared that homosexuality was a “lifestyle” that “can be changed.
“I think homosexuality is a lifestyle, it’s a choice, and that lifestyle can be changed,” Blackwell told the Columbus Dispatch at the time. “I think it is a transgression against God’s law, God’s will.”
“The reality is, again,” Blackwell continued, “that I think we make choices all the time. And I think you make good choices and bad choices in terms of lifestyle. Our expectation is that one’s genetic makeup might make one more inclined to be an arsonist or might make one more inclined to be a kleptomaniac. Do I think that they can be changed? Yes.”
Trump himself has said that, while he does not support same-sex marriage rights, he does support LGBT rights. Vice president-elect Mike Pence, on the other hand, first emerged on the national stage after signing an expansive anti-LGBT measure into law, and once signed into law a bill that would send same-sex couples attempting to obtain marriage licenses to jail.
Sad but true. When the democrats ever try to make change, a combination of the republican ferocity in rejection and how they manipulate the media and the people to buy into their agenda is scathingly efficient. It sucks and is incredibly partisan, but it cannot be denied that they do it so effectively.
Yet the republicans seem to pass change at will. Perhaps the very nature of democrats is what goes against them. Ruthlessness.
Depends on your age and the type of healthcare you have. I've got PPO insurance through my work and am paying roughly $50/month. Low premium but a high deductible, which is the way to go if you rarely see a doctor.
Sigh
Crazy world. For both sides. Between the primary violence of Anti Trump supporters and the primary discrimination of Trump supporters (kids talking about sending minority kids to the back of the bus? Seriously?).
2016 and will the US act as a sort of Apartheid country now?
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