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Media are relentless.
The poor press Secretary is under the cosh.
The poor press Secretary is under the cosh.
Why would companies move their EU HQ's back to America? Makes zero sense.
Donald Trump's vision of a successful country will scare you. I believe he will judge his own success by the approval of his peers.I wouldn't doubt it. Although in this job, his success will more or less also be the country's success.
It depends strongly on age, as usual. He won a small majority of black millennials, so if @vi1lain is of the correct age, that's what s/he would see.
And I saw your earlier post, so this applies there too. He lost to Clinton because of people over 45. He won under 45s. Age was the strongest indication of support.
I've suspected it all along once I figured out Trump's character he invented to get elected over the past 18 months. Most people who talk about dealing with Trump in private say he's a pretty easy going, pragmatic guy with liberal leaning views. How he governs as President will basically be little more than an ideological mean reversion.
To repatriate the money they have been keeping offshore for years because US corporate tax rates were too high. Once Trump lowers them, the money comes back.
I'm an atheist praying that you are right.I'm increasingly confident Trump is turning back to his NE liberal ways. The Alt-Right/Ann Coulter/David Duke crowd may be a bit disappointed about building walls, mass deportations, banning muslims etc.
While you are absolutely correct, the one thing more important to Donald than money might be his ego. Maybe he will try to satisfy as many people as possible to be considered a good president (I have zero confidence in him delivering... An infrastructure offensive paid for by debt would be welcome though).His objectives. He'll happily trade away your rights as a bargaining chip. He doesn't give a feck about anyone but Donald Trump.
It's also possible that he's presenting a happy face because he has won the election. When things go tough for him, he'll turn up the populist noise and people who thought he'll turn centrist will look like idiots. How do we fall for this shit again and again?
I agree about the millennial vote. It's safe to say that Sanders would have got a better share of millennial vote than Clinton for sure. But it would be interesting to see the breakup of these two categories
Because of the fact that blacks and latinos are minority, they would have to turn up in record numbers for Dems to even stand up to the 50% white turnout. If historic turnout of black population is only possible if there's a colored person on the ticket, I'm sure there will be questions for DNC and the party on whether it's a viable strategy. I'm also assuming that the notion of millennials generally vote less than the older people is true.
- millennial vs older vote
- Black turnout for Obama vs Black turnout for Clinton
In my view, You saw the Republicans and the evangelical vote. Trump won it at about 4:1 of the vote, because they made a deal with the devil that is Trump because it furthers their cause, in spite of Trump having nothing in common with the evangelicals. It's a pragmatic vote. Liberals and the Independents on the other hand probably decided that they can't be bothered with both candidates/Clinton because they weren't inspiring enough. It's based on ideology. There's a case to be made against DNC fecking up by nominating the wrong candidates and there's also a case to be made against people who didn't turn up to vote against Trump here (whether millennials or black voters)
Of course, I'm not that politics nerd, so I may be completely wrong here.
I don't really see the populist angle. He used it to get elected but there's nothing incentivizing him from continuing down that path. We've already seen stuff like Crooked Hillary, build a wall, mass deportations, and muslim bans quietly go away.
Briefly, I'll predict what he could and wouldn't have achieved.
He might have lost Virginia, where she won on the basis of suburban rich people. He would probably have lost NC and FL, where the conservative message works. This gives Trump 319 EVs.
On the other hand, MI, PA, WI, IA, and OH were lost by 0.3, 1, 4, 10, and 10% respectively, presumably due to white working class and rural voters. I don't think Bernie could have managed a 10 point swing there, but I'm quite confident he would have taken MI, PA, and WI (=46). That makes it 273 for Trump.
So did he have a chance? Maybe: that is basically a one-state lead for Trump. Vulnerable states would have been the single electoral vote of Maine, either IA or OH themselves, AZ, by some great luck, any one of VA/NC/FL, and an outside shot at Utah (He polled exceptionally well there, and that was before the 2nd Republican was on the scene). Any one of those and he would have won.
@Raoul just an observation from seeing some of your predictions and analysis over the past few years (which is often well thought through)... You are constitutionally an optimist and overvalue the likelihood of your desired outcome actually happening. Right now there is huge uncertainty over the path Trump, and ultimately America, will take. Pretending otherwise is just trying to make yourself feel better about the situation. Sometimes shit does go badly wrong.
He knows that creating populist noise and issues out of nothing detracts people from real issues. He will revert back to type as soon as he runs into trouble. I like your kumbaya world where he's elected and everybody lived happily ever after though.
The momentous moment when the USA's first black president started the hand over of power to her first orange president.
This isn't about Sanders winning or not, that train passed a long time ago. This is about a group of people voting pragmatically and the other group not doing so.
Hillary did have a lot of skeletons in the closet and she did very much represent the "despised political elite" and just that lost her the election it seems. I'm not a "Bernie Bro", not even an american, but the way the party handled the primaries was hamfisted at best
Many people say Bernie would have walked away with the election had he been the one running. I'm not so sure, seeing as hes a "socialist" which is a curse word across the Atlantic, but imo he is just what they had needed
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But it's their European HQ. Not like the whole company up and left the States.
This is unlikely to be true when all votes are tallied, from what I've read.Clinton didn't lose because of evangelicals, she lost because of PA/WI/MI. Evangelicals are well-trained to vote for the Republican and will always do so. She did marginally worse among minorities than Obama. She did much worse among whites, especially non college-educated. But she comprehensively lost rich whites too. Turnout was lower. As of now, you can take your pick of these factors.
From following the whole thing and watching Trump before and since his victory does anyone else have this weird feeling that he never intended it to get this far and certainly didn't expect to win. He's looked uncomfortable in all his post victory appearances. Almost sad.
One word for it, yeah.Sad?
This is unlikely to be true when all votes are tallied, from what I've read.
From following the whole thing and watching Trump before and since his victory does anyone else have this weird feeling that he never intended it to get this far and certainly didn't expect to win. He's looked uncomfortable in all his post victory appearances. Almost sad.
From following the whole thing and watching Trump before and since his victory does anyone else have this weird feeling that he never intended it to get this far and certainly didn't expect to win. He's looked uncomfortable in all his post victory appearances. Almost sad.
I've seen quite a lot of liberals posting it. If I were a republican voter I would find the irony pretty perfect.
He will (try to) enact most of this very quickly: http://www.vox.com/2016/11/10/13584390/donald-trump-first-100-daysYou can only go with what information you have. I think the big mistake people are making is actually to take the things he said during the campaign literally as if he is going to implement every extemporaneous quip he made over the past 18 months. People say whatever they need to, to get elected. Once they have power, they are forced to behave more pragmatically - because A: they gain access to far more information than they previously had, and B: they realize that cooperation with others is critical to actually accomplishing things (and conversely, lack of flexibility is a great recipe for gridlock). Trump likes to do deals, and he will need to cooperate with others to do them, which entails a degree of compromise and cooperation.