Hardly surprising that people will interpret it as targeting a religion when he actually promised to target that religion during his campaign though.
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Hardly surprising that people will interpret it as targeting a religion when he actually promised to target that religion during his campaign though.
Yes that would be great as well. Both sides could do with a nice big chill pill.
Hey, as I posted...they updated the policy. So, Green card holders will be vetted individually...suppose they'll look at social media...travel destinations...etc etc...and, most will be let in.
Well that's just absurd. Mexicans would never eat at a Taco Bell.
I think you're right to point out the shoddiness of this whole thing. Trump likes the idea but doesn't seem to understand that his ideas are having real consequences for real people. I doubt he will give a feck though.
He did revise that bit to say he will do specific bans based on high terror threat countries, which is precisely what has been done.
There's nothing iffy about it. Walls work.
Israel, for instance, had a problem with tens of thousands of African migrants entering the country illegally across the Sinai border with Egypt. They built a proper wall. Last year the number of illegals dropped to about a dozen.
There's nothing special about the US border with Mexico. A well-designed wall, with sufficient human resources in support, can solve the problem of illegal migration once and for all.
After that I imagine the issue of illegals already in the US will cease to be so contentious, and most of them will eventually be allowed to stay.
People will still come in through tunnels, I saw it in this documentary that Vin Diesel hosted.
Not quite. 40% of undocumented people in the US fly in. Try again.
Then there's the case of the massive northern border...
Surprise surprise he hasn't banned people coming from Gulf States. We know Saudi Arabia funds ISIS.
That Israeli wall is 7 miles long.
Also the motivations for breaching it are far different to any US border wall.
Also the motivations for breaching it are far different to any US border wall.
Visitors flying in legally and overstaying their visas is a separate issue. Let's solve one problem at a time.
It's easier to solve the flying problem first.
Not a chance they will build a wall 1,954 miles long.
Look I've bitched about this...but, we all know why.
Sure the F-ING Saudis funded a ton of madrassas...and Wahhabism sucks balls, but the Saudi govt isn't harboring terrorists...the regime is without doubt Pro-Western.
And the Saudis are the counterweight to Iran in the region.
No point in harping on about hypocrisy - that's just life and geopolitics is no different.
You said the wall would solve the problem of illegal immigration forever though. Are those 40% that would be totally unaffected by the wall not illegal immigrants? If they are then it's the same issue.
exactly
Where do you think so called illegal immigrants come from ? They're not scuba diving across the Rio Grande these days, they are flying in and ignoring their visa expirations. A wall will do feck all to remedy that, so the idea of flushing billions down the toilet for a wall is just bad and ignorant public policy.
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Will is basically a rightwing analogue of Will Self, thesaurus and all.
Keep on prodding.That's where 'human resources' come in. Instead of chasing their tails up and down a 2000 mile open border trying to stop the unstoppable, the agents can use their time more productively. The first requirement is a proper barrier. Peripheral issues can then be addressed.
Oh - just to see that it is not meant on Muslims
Link for the full text: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/27/us/politics/refugee-muslim-executive-order-trump.html
You take countries with Muslim majorities...
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About the publication of criminal activities...
https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-pres...order-enhancing-public-safety-interior-united
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About the wall...
So that means that 250.000 guns each year less will get smuggled from the US into Mexico. Harms the industry... Ok, they could sell them to legal citizens but that might be more harmful to security than some mexican illegals... (that try to stay out of trouble because of their status and do jobs the US citizens will not do for the money... - especially as there aren't that many illegal Mexicans in the regions where the industries died.)
Link for the full text: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/27/us/politics/refugee-muslim-executive-order-trump.html
You take countries with Muslim majorities...
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About the publication of criminal activities...
https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-pres...order-enhancing-public-safety-interior-united
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About the wall...
So that means that 250.000 guns each year less will get smuggled from the US into Mexico. Harms the industry... Ok, they could sell them to legal citizens but that might be more harmful to security than some mexican illegals... (that try to stay out of trouble because of their status and do jobs the US citizens will not do for the money... - especially as there aren't that many illegal Mexicans in the regions where the industries died.)
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Uh huh... Tunnels man. The point was about tunnels.
If by "physically restricting the movement of race of people" you mean simply executing your right as a sovereign nation to restrict people breaking into your country illegally, what does fascism got to do with it? He's not building a wall around Mexican neighborhoods in the US, FFS. We're talking about two sovereign nations here.
People often forget that Trump portrayed the wall during the campaign as a PUNISHMENT of Mexico. Hence the "we're going to make them pay for it".
Will have a glorious piece tomorrow. Hopefully it is from a baby whale, they are the most tender.
He can't understand you mate, he has tunnel vision.
Who stops tunnels? Cows?
It's hard to get definitive figures on this, but Marc Rosenblum of the Migration Policy Institute estimates that overstays represent about 16 percent of unauthorized Mexican immigrants, about 27 percent of unauthorized Central Americans, and about 91 percent of all other unauthorized immigrants.
Obviously a Mexican border wall isn't going to solve the problem of Irish or British people overstaying their visas in the US, but it does address the problem of illegal immigration from Mexico and Central America.
And is, indeed, why Mexicans are really pissed off about it.
I don't see how the president could legally have the power to effectively unilaterally suspend permanent residency status en masse based on country of origin. The courts need to strike this down quickly.
Or he simply wanted to assure the voters that the bill won't be payed by their tax money. I'm sure the majority of people would agree that a better use can be found for that sum of money.
Well Chinese built one that is over 13,000 miles long.
But unless there is a threat of invasion from Mexico and the Americans has gone back technologically into 7th century BC, I agree that it makes no sense for them to build one now.Have you ever seen the border ? Its not a tidy contiguous stretch of land that is amenable for a giant wall. There are rivers, valleys, canyons, cliffs, stretches of land where there is already a wall (700 miles worth). The more you look into it the more absurd the idea sounds - never mind the fact that a large chunk of people don't even come across the land border, which would make it a massive waste of money.
We're not talking about European expats flying in and overstaying their visas, its mostly people from the western hemisphere who are doing it.
But it is now going to be funded by american consumers instead!
But it is going to be paid for with our tax money.
Then if he puts a 20% tariff on Mexican imports, it will be paid for by us a 2nd time via higher prices on those goods.
So you're saying that people didn't think it important enough to demand federal dollars?
And this has nothing to do with the punishment aspect, which is also clear from his campaign starting with the "they're sending their murderers and their rapists" remark, and his response to Mexican criticism by declaring that "it just got ten feet higher". It's punishment.
I don't know how many people enter through tunnels. I suspect it's a small fraction of the whole. But it's a lot easier to solve that problem if agents don't have to spend all their time fruitlessly trying to prevent people walking across the border above ground.
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