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We broke the Panama Papers story. Our next mission: Donald Trump ~
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...estigation-next-donald-trump-hold-accountable

Excellent link there Guv! Shame it was missed amongst all the intelligence v achievement gibberish. Personally, I can only hope that the collective press decide to go down this route, it would work, and on top of that it would be amazing to see some solidarity. Imagine The Moron slapping down a CNN reporter or refusing to answer his/her question and then someone from Fox News standing up and throwing it right back at him. Can you imagine the instant look of confusion on his face while his tiny mind tried to comprehend what just happened to him? And then for it to happen each and every time he refused to answer any questions. That would be amazing! Also, as the link says, it's too big a deal to handle alone, like The Panama Papers, it needs everyone to be involved and work together to have a chance of succeeding.
 
Why would he pivot, and that too after what he has done has served himself for 70+years and got the Presidency of the United States of America too, at that!
I never thought he would... You're stating the obvious. Yet, some thought otherwise.
 
Not sure this was mentioned, with all the DAPL and EPA business

Donald Trump used his first full day as president to reinstate a Reagan-era executive order that will have a devastating impact on those with the fewest resources: women and girls in impoverished parts of the word. The order, best known as the “global gag rule,” will strip funding from any international NGO that provides abortions services, or even discusses abortion with patients seeking educational materials or referrals.
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It’s quite the way to describe the gutting of a policy that’s spared an estimated 289,000 women from pregnancy- or childbirth-related deaths, according to the World Health Organization.
 
Hang on, that clip has been reversed!!

If you look closely at the end, the way he turns back to face forwards looks weird. That's a classic tell tale sign of reversed video. And it makes sense. Melania Trump is behind him, pensive, he turns to look at his family, sees her face and smiles to make her smile too.

Cheeky fecking Twitter! :nono:

It's not though, I posted the full clip earlier
 
Personally, I can only hope that the collective press decide to go down this route, it would work, and on top of that it would be amazing to see some solidarity. Imagine The Moron slapping down a CNN reporter or refusing to answer his/her question and then someone from Fox News standing up and throwing it right back at him.

In trying to tear down a conservative President? There's a great deal of solidarity already. But the participation of Fox is unlikely.

There'll be few opportunities for direct confrontation. I don't suppose Trump will give many press conferences.
 
Huh? Yeah they would. The Dakota access pipeline would have been approved, possibly by Hilary too. That abortion thing always switched when Dems or Reps take over. The arts would have been slashed by any republican, and science funding would have decreased.


Nothing. Most republican run states are in a feckton of debt because they don't seem to care about taxes, it's part of their MO, loot the government then let democrats fix it later. I don't know how they get away with marketing themselves as fiscally responsible.

Kansas being the best example.
 
In trying to tear down a conservative President? There's a great deal of solidarity already. But the participation of Fox is unlikely.

There'll be few opportunities for direct confrontation. I don't suppose Trump will give many press conferences.

I know the solidarity of which you are alluding to but that aside there isn't any real solidarity at the moment, although The Moron could well unite the press against him. We already have seen it twice recently when Shep Smith stuck up for CNN and then after his Press Conference this week where Chris Wallace stuck up for Jake Tapper of CNN.

As for him not giving Press Conferences, I agree, like any Dictator he will only speak at public events or when he absolutely has to, he won't often (if ever) answer any questions and he will be elusive at best if he does. That's why the same principle for Press unity works just as well with his Minister for Propaganda, Spicer. The press have to unify when they are in front of him if The President won't ever give them the chance.
 
Are you drunk? Your statement doesn't even make sense.
The potential increase (0,3% by the way) in defense budget wouldn't make any real difference, neither for the US nor our education spending. You don't pay for our education system you moron, it's just that your batshit gouvernment has decided to overspend on your military for the past 6 decades. The actual US investment in Europe is a fracture of your overall military spending. We are not responsible for that and neither are we for your expensive wars in the Middle East. It's just another "alternative fact" presented by Trump to his voters who lack the intelligence to understand such matters.

What a stupid statement, have you really fallen for such shit? Inform yourself. Even Wikipedia would be enough to be honest.
In first place I know for a fact Portugal for example is not spending what was agreeded and besides U.K. and Greece probably no country is using I believe the 2.1% and 0.3 from 10 trillion of dollars is a lot of money, also calm down and enjoy the next 4 years with trump or Pence.
 


Absolutely fecking disgusting.

THIS! is what I was most worried about, and it's already started, so please don't anyone try to patronise me that he will eventually be ok, or not be as bad as I thought. He's 4 days in and has already proved he will be the exact cnut I thought he would be. Next stop on the Global Trump FECK YOU! Tour 2017 is the Environment and Climate Change.

Edit, sorry Rads :lol: Posted at the same time.
 
also calm down and enjoy the next 4 years with trump or Pence

:lol: Oh my god, did you really just go "I don't agree with you so ner ner ner ner ner" back at another user? Jeez, I'd ask if you were still at school, but you posted something recently that gave your age away to be much older, probably late 40's or young 50's. Maybe even older, whatever, too old to be blowing raspberries at someone you don't agree with.
 
Absolutely fecking disgusting.

THIS! is what I was most worried about, and it's already started, so please don't anyone try to patronise me that he will eventually be ok, or not be as bad as I thought. He's 4 days in and has already proved he will be the exact cnut I thought he would be. Next stop on the Global Trump FECK YOU! Tour 2017 is the Environment and Climate Change.

Edit, sorry Rads :lol: Posted at the same time.
Why US has to pay? We need the money in this country and don't wonder why Obama was raising our debt every year.
 
Why US has to pay? We need the money in this country and don't wonder why Obama was raising our debt every year.
If you thought that was bad wait till you get a load of Trump.... I give up... I'm done.
 
If you thought that was bad wait till you get a load of Trump.... I give up... I'm done.

Yep. The guy quite literally intends to lower taxes significantly while expanding the military massively at the same time. He'll raise debt to astronomical levels and leave whoever comes in after him to mop it up.
 
Why US has to pay? We need the money in this country and don't wonder why Obama was raising our debt every year.

What has that got to do with you just acting like an 8 year old who can't win an argument with someone?

And you are also (as usual) very wrong and badly misinformed, Obama actually cut your deficit by a considerable amount. He also cut unemployment and created more jobs than any other living President. If you want to blame someone for raising your debt blame Reagan or GW Bush, as those two raised it more than any other Presidents in history but don't worry, don't let your prejudices get in the way of the truth.

As to your other ridiculous point, the US doesn't pay to protect other countries and get nothing from it. What about the strategic military bases it owns in Japan, South Korea, Turkey, Germany, the UK and Israel? The vast percentage of money the US sends overseas goes to ISRAEL and EGYPT. So explain to me quite how Mr Trump is going to continue "the best relations ever" with Israel if it cuts its budget to the country? Or how it will defend itself (and the rest of the world) from attack if it loses its air and military bases in the countries I mentioned?

Everything is relative and yes, the US does definitely play a huge part in policing the world, and it does spend money overseas, but it gets it back ten times over in strategic defence positions and to be honest, the USA kind of made itself the head of the World Police Org. You simply cannot have it both ways.

EDIT! I forgot to mention that with most of the countries the US sends money to, it has an agreement that they MUST BUY American Arms and equipment from them. So, they actually make money from these agreements. There's far more to it than your "we go without at home while we spend billions protecting the world" argument.
 
What has that got to do with you just acting like an 8 year old who can't win an argument with someone?

And you are also (as usual) very wrong and badly misinformed, Obama actually cut your deficit by a considerable amount. He also cut unemployment and created more jobs than any other living President. If you want to blame someone for raising your debt blame Reagan or GW Bush, as those two raised it more than any other Presidents in history but don't worry, don't let your prejudices get in the way of the truth.

As to your other ridiculous point, the US doesn't pay to protect other countries and get nothing from it. What about the strategic military bases it owns in Japan, South Korea, Turkey, Germany, the UK and Israel? The vast percentage of money the US sends overseas from their military budget goes to ISRAEL and EGYPT. So explain to me quite how Mr Trump is going to continue "the best relations ever" with Israel if it cuts its budget to the country? Or how it will defend itself (and the rest of the world) from attack if it loses its air and military bases in the countries I mentioned?

Everything is relative and yes, the US does definitely play a huge part in policing the world, and it does spend money overseas, but it gets it back ten times over in strategic defence positions and to be honest, the USA kind of made itself the head of the World Police Org. You simply cannot have it both ways.

People are missing this point. The US may complain about other countries not paying their fair share into NATO but the reason this has been the case is because it suits US interests perfectly - it allows them to exert extreme military power over just about every other world nation.

If Trump wants other countries to up their contributions, fine. But he can, at the same time, expect the US to thus wield less military power than it has at any time since before WW2.
 
What has that got to do with you just acting like an 8 year old who can't win an argument with someone?

And you are also (as usual) very wrong and badly misinformed, Obama actually cut your deficit by a considerable amount. He also cut unemployment and created more jobs than any other living President. If you want to blame someone for raising your debt blame Reagan or GW Bush, as those two raised it more than any other Presidents in history but don't worry, don't let your prejudices get in the way of the truth.

As to your other ridiculous point, the US doesn't pay to protect other countries and get nothing from it. What about the strategic military bases it owns in Japan, South Korea, Turkey, Germany, the UK and Israel? The vast percentage of money the US sends overseas goes to ISRAEL and EGYPT. So explain to me quite how Mr Trump is going to continue "the best relations ever" with Israel if it cuts its budget to the country? Or how it will defend itself (and the rest of the world) from attack if it loses its air and military bases in the countries I mentioned?

Everything is relative and yes, the US does definitely play a huge part in policing the world, and it does spend money overseas, but it gets it back ten times over in strategic defence positions and to be honest, the USA kind of made itself the head of the World Police Org. You simply cannot have it both ways.

People are missing this point. The US may complain about other countries not paying their fair share into NATO but the reason this has been the case is because it suits US interests perfectly - it allows them to exert extreme military power over just about every other world nation.

If Trump wants other countries to up their contributions, fine. But he can, at the same time, expect the US to thus wield less military power than it has at any time since before WW2.

Exactamundo... its never been protection for protection's sake, because the US loves South Korea, Japan or Europe so dearly. Its forward defense, to deter or be in better position to counter events that would be costly to the US and it might choose to still fight against nonetheless, only to find itself without good positioning to do so if it didn't keep those alliances and foreign infrastructure in place.

Of course strategy should be constantly re-evaluated, not to find yourself positioned for objectives that are no longer relevant, or to seek better or more efficient alternatives to existing structure. But on the basis of "I spend too much on it", when really you spend the bulk on the upkeep and development of the largest navy and air force in the world, and advanced army to match, is just stupid.
 
People are missing this point. The US may complain about other countries not paying their fair share into NATO but the reason this has been the case is because it suits US interests perfectly - it allows them to exert extreme military power over just about every other world nation.

If Trump wants other countries to up their contributions, fine. But he can, at the same time, expect the US to thus wield less military power than it has at any time since before WW2.

Exactly right. As I said, they can't have it both ways, and as I added in my edit, they also do particularly well in the arms trade and military equipment trading world too. That all creates jobs back home for hard working American citizens. As you rightly said, all this suits the USA perfectly. I really cannot see how the US arms/defence manufacturers or the Generals in charge of the military are going to let The Moron come and change the status quo on all of this. Not to mention unsettle the entire world and put certain regions in serious danger. I also can't see how the big business elite would let him cost them so much money either?

These aren't little things he's fecking with now, this isn't some garishly decorated Casino in Atlantic City or some overpriced Golf Club in Florida, this is the real world now and he's fecking with the big boys. He simply will not be allowed to waltz in and do what the feck he likes without serious consequences, I just hope that he pays the price and not everyone else on the planet.

Nice reply @MTF, I only saw it after replying to @Cheesy.
 
When people talk about the military might of the US, of how immensely powerful the US is, who is this "US" they're talking about, exactly? It's sure as hell not the desperate who have resorted to crime and are providing slave labour in the penal system. Neither is it so many of the armed forces who have joined up because it was one of the few ways they could see to make a few bucks. All of this power is, in fact, concentrated in the hands of a few extremely wealthy individuals. US foreign policy should really be seen in that light.
 
When people talk about the military might of the US, of how immensely powerful the US is, who is this "US" they're talking about, exactly? It's sure as hell not the desperate who have resorted to crime and are providing slave labour in the penal system. Neither is it so many of the armed forces who have joined up because it was one of the few ways they could see to make a few bucks. All of this power is, in fact, concentrated in the hands of a few extremely wealthy individuals. US foreign policy should really be seen in that light.

They are probably talking about the most powerful military in the world, as in the US spends more on its military than the next 7 countries combined.

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Lots of people on my Facebook feed complaining that when they have shared this VDO, Facebook is then deleting it without their notification.

Has tRump somehow lent on Facebook into censoring?
If it's forwarded it's most likely just been forwarded too many times and the FB algorithms pick it up as potential spam or false news. It's why so much spam and shite chain mails on there start with the words "copy and paste, don't just forward".
 
One more point on forward deployment: countries that currently challenge the perceived order in their near borders (Russia in Ukraine, China in S China sea, even Assad to an extent) are challenging the US's political will to counter them. That the political costs and real costs the US government perceives outweighs the benefits of countering.

It'd be an even further different world when countries might evaluate that the US doesn't even fave the ability to counter anymore, except at great real cost. Essentially when the response to any given crisis is the SecDef having to inform the President that all they have is currently in and around the continental US, that without pre-positioned logistics and basing rights any force that they're able to get to the relevant point on the globe will take a week, and even then because of logistics limitations will not be large enough to cause pause to any adversary.

I actually don't think this is likely to happen, but to anyone defending that the costs outweigh the benefits, its not true if you have any intention of shaping events beyond this continent.
 
No real surprise that Trump is for laying some pipe.

Writing 'tRump' is incredibly daft. Drumpf is stupid too. I always ignored anybody who did 'Obongo', 'Obummer' etc. and this is the same.

So what are you saying ? That we shouldn't use Drumpf anymore ?
 
What has that got to do with you just acting like an 8 year old who can't win an argument with someone?

And you are also (as usual) very wrong and badly misinformed, Obama actually cut your deficit by a considerable amount. He also cut unemployment and created more jobs than any other living President. If you want to blame someone for raising your debt blame Reagan or GW Bush, as those two raised it more than any other Presidents in history but don't worry, don't let your prejudices get in the way of the truth.

As to your other ridiculous point, the US doesn't pay to protect other countries and get nothing from it. What about the strategic military bases it owns in Japan, South Korea, Turkey, Germany, the UK and Israel? The vast percentage of money the US sends overseas goes to ISRAEL and EGYPT. So explain to me quite how Mr Trump is going to continue "the best relations ever" with Israel if it cuts its budget to the country? Or how it will defend itself (and the rest of the world) from attack if it loses its air and military bases in the countries I mentioned?

Everything is relative and yes, the US does definitely play a huge part in policing the world, and it does spend money overseas, but it gets it back ten times over in strategic defence positions and to be honest, the USA kind of made itself the head of the World Police Org. You simply cannot have it both ways.

EDIT! I forgot to mention that with most of the countries the US sends money to, it has an agreement that they MUST BUY American Arms and equipment from them. So, they actually make money from these agreements. There's far more to it than your "we go without at home while we spend billions protecting the world" argument.

Talk about KO :lol:

Well put, mate.
 
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