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FOURTEEN SENATE DEMOCRATS joined all but one Senate Republican in confirming Rep. Mike Pompeo as the new CIA director on Monday evening, failing a crucial first test of whether Democrats would present a united front to defend human rights and civil liberties in the Trump era.

Kentucky Republican Senator Rand Paul was the lone member of his party to vote against his confirmation.

Pompeo is a far-right Kansas Republican who has in the past defended CIA officials who engaged in torture, calling them “patriots“. Last week, he left the door open to torture by acknowledging in his written responses to the Senate Intelligence Committee that he would be open to altering a 2015 law prohibiting the government from using techniques not listed in the Army Field Manual.

As a member of Congress, he repeatedly appeared on the radio program hosted by anti-Muslim activist Frank Gaffney, and has portrayed the War on Terror as a conflict between Islam and Christianity. He has also claimed that “Islamic leaders across America [are] potentially complicit” in terrorism because they supposedly don’t speak out against it, which is not true.

While Pompeo’s confirmation was opposed by Human Rights Watch, it netted votes from a variety of Senate Democrats, including the caucus’s leader: Chuck Schumer of New York.

In addition to his stances on torture and Islam, Pompeo has also come under fire for his views on surveillance. In a 2016 op-ed in the Wall Street Journal, he attacked a 2015 law that that he voted for, which ended the bulk collection on phone records by the NSA. The op-ed calls on the government to collect “all metadata” and “lifestyle” details on Americans.

The CIA is prohibited by Executive Order from conducting electronic surveillance inside the United States. But the specific rules and policies governing CIA surveillance are secret and can be reinterpreted without public debate. Despite a push for transparency following the revelations in documents from NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden, the Obama administration did not declassify a secret legal opinion about the CIA’s collection of financial records. And days before President Trump took office, the Obama administration issued new rules that would allow the CIA to sift through much of the raw data the NSA collects on Americans.
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People often look down, doing their best solemn face, when listening to a prayer. Is she not just doing what a lot of others in the crowd are, apart from a brief smile when her husband looks at her, to share in the joke?
 
I crack up every time I read those remarks :lol: Reads like an Onion parody piece. Would've loved to be a fly on the wall by the water cooler at Langley after that debacle.
 
DiseaseOfTheAge said:
People often look down, doing their best solemn face, when listening to a prayer. Is she not just doing what a lot of others in the crowd are, apart from a brief smile when her husband looks at her, to share in the joke?
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I thought that too. On twitter they are saying that look proves she is an abused wife. People are actually really worried about her.
 
devilish said:
He built quite a reputation of hiring small contactors or self employed people and them refuse to pay them. No wonder why he wants to cripple europe if he can. Individual nations are easier to outmuscle then an entire bloc

So this is what i think he is thinking. He will convince (or order) the Uk not to provide military protection and he will then force the eu to pay his military bills or else they wont protect europe at all

What could ruin his plan is china who will be eager to fill the void left by the US
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So what you're saying is that USA will essentially run a mobster like protection racket in smaller countries across the globe:

you must take USA military protection in exchange for favourable USA trading terms. If you don't accept this offer, Don Donaldinio will grab your President's wife's pussy, sharing the image as a gif on twitter.
 
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Ha! I may be more stupid than Trump but my uncle was Ludwig Wittgenstein...so I win!
or not
 
DiseaseOfTheAge said:
Can't even make a joke anymore without conservative snowflakes calling for you to be sacked.
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I just don't find something like that funny


Especially in a country that has been heavily hit by school shootings and has been basically done nothing about it. Especially about a 10 year old boy.

If that makes me a snowflake, so be it.

It's kinda sad that people can't debate points maturely without a conservative snowflake/ SJW tags thrown around by either side.
 
K2K said:
I just don't find something like that funny


Especially in a country that has been heavily hit by school shootings and has been basically done nothing about it. Especially about a 10 year old boy.

If that makes me a snowflake, so be it.

It's kinda sad that people can't debate points maturely without a conservative snowflake/ SJW tags thrown around by either side.
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It's not funny. It's funny that people on the right are calling for her to lose her job.
 
DiseaseOfTheAge said:
It's not funny. It's funny that people on the right are calling for her to lose her job.
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It's a despicable comment about a kid. Common decency says they are things you don't mock like kids and disability.

Trump got rightly slated for doing the latter. My moral counter doesn't only work because of what side of the left/ right divide the perpetrator falls.

Had a Fox journalist etc made a similar joke about Malia I'd be as pissed off. Yes, their parents have chosen this path, but the kids haven't.

Can't we just let kids be kids without bringing them into petty adult squabbles?
 
It was someone who is paid to write jokes writing a joke that did not land. And I am really not buying the pearl clutching from people who supported Trump
 
K2K said:
It's a despicable comment about a kid. Common decency says they are things you don't mock like kids and disability.

Trump got rightly slated for doing the latter. My moral counter doesn't only work because of what side of the left/ right divide the perpetrator falls.

Had a Fox journalist etc made a similar joke about Malia I'd be as pissed off. Yes, their parents have chosen this path, but the kids haven't.

Can't we just let kids be kids without bringing them into petty adult squabbles?
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We all agree though - including the person who made the joke, who realized her mistake and apologized. What people are mocking is that Trump people are going crazy and calling for her to be sacked, mirroring the PC culture among liberals (who they derogatorily refer to as "snowflakes") that they abhor and ridicule at every opportunity. DiseaseOfTheAge was being ironic.
 
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Keeps It tidy said:
It was someone who is paid to write jokes writing a joke that did not land. And I am really not buying the pearl clutching from people who supported Trump
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I hate tRump. As much as I've hated anything in my life. Yes that much.

Even I can see this wasn't a joke, it wasn't satire and it wasn't funny. It was a lazy and nasty jibe at a child, not because the child did anything wrong but because of the writers dislike for his father.

Likewise tRumps so called 'locker talk' should never make such acceptable as 'banter'. Others may disagree but I've always believed supposed 'free speech' should have limits. This is one of them.

The lady is certainly not fit for purpose on her role and I think she should be sacked.
 
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Borden said:
We all agree though - including the person who made the joke, who realized her mistake and apologized. What people are mocking is that Trump people are going crazy and calling for her to be sacked, mirroring the PC culture among liberals (who they derogatorily refer to as "snowflakes") that they abhor and ridicule at every opportunity. DiseaseOfTheAge was being ironic.
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Adults calling adults 'snowflakes' hardly compares with an adult proclaiming to the entire world that a 10 year old boy will likely start shooting guns killing other young kids.

Seriously get some perspective! She was plainly wrong and thats the end of it.
 
Borden said:
We all agree though - including the person who made the joke, who realized her mistake and apologized. What people are mocking is that Trump people are going crazy and calling for her to be sacked, mirroring the PC culture among liberals (which they derogatorily refer to as "snowflakes") that they abhor and ridicule at every opportunity. DiseaseOfTheAge was being ironic.
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Calling someone snowflake just because they hold a contrasting opinion to yours is quite frankly stupid imo.

But the thing about the SNL writer is that because entity she works for, she holds massive sway but also will be held under greater scrutiny. Thus her comments were heavily questioned, apology or not.

I'm not worried about those comments because they are about Trump' s children but because I think we should let kids be kids. Celebrity kids have it hard enough growing up in the media, imagine growing up with a father like Donald on top of that.

Trump is easily open to ridicule because he tends to overreact to any such criticism. But let's just keep the insults on him.

That's all.
 
sammsky1 said:
I hate tRump. As much as I've hated anything in my life. Yes that much.

Even I can see this wasn't a joke, it wasn't satire and it wasn't funny. It was a lazy and nasty jibe at a child, not because The child did anything wrong but because of the writers dislike for his father.

Likewise tRumps so called 'locker talk' should never make such acceptable as 'banter'. Others may disagree but I've always believed supposed 'free speach' should have limits. This is one of them.

The lady Is certainly not fit for purpose on her role and I think she should be sacked.
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If she is sacked it should be for Weekend Update not being funny.
 
K2K said:
Calling someone snowflake just because they hold a contrasting opinion to yours is quite frankly stupid imo.

But the thing about the SNL writer is that because entity she works for, she holds massive sway but also will be held under greater scrutiny. Thus her comments were heavily questioned, apology or not.

I'm not worried about those comments because they are about Trump' s children but because I think we should let kids be kids. Celebrity kids have it hard enough growing up in the media, imagine growing up with a father like Donald on top of that.

Trump is easily open to ridicule because he tends to overreact to any such criticism. But let's just keep the insults on him.

That's all.
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It's nothing to do with having a different opinion. The word snowflake is used to refer to young people, typically university students, who are perceived to have been brought up in a coddled environment where their parents, teachers and peers told them that they're special and that they can be whatever they want to be. The word is used the right wing to decry political correctness, to say, for example "look at those special snowflakes, calling for Jeremy Clarkson to be fired from his job, he's not really a racist, he was joking". So, forgive us if we're going to take this golden opportunity to make fun of the right wing for electing literally the biggest fecking snowflake on the planet to be their president, and immediately calling for a joke writer to lose her job.

Of all the things to take issue with here, you've chosen the most ridiculous one.

And no, she shouldn't lose her job. If she keeps on making bad judgement calls that reflect badly on SNL, then they can consider it. But jesus feck, firing people for a first offence isn't right. She didn't kill anyone, she just made a bad joke about the presidents kid.
 
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Silva said:
The word snowflake is used to refer to young people, typically university students, who are perceived to have been brought up in a coddled environment where their parents, teachers and peers told them that they're special and that they can be whatever they want to be. The word is used the right wing to decry political correctness, to say, for example "look at those special snowflakes, calling for Jeremy Clarkson to be fired from his job, he's not really a racist, he was joking". So, forgive us if we're going to take this golden opportunity to make fun of the right wing for electing literally the biggest fecking snowflake on the planet to be their president, and immediately calling for a joke write to lose her job.

It's nothing to do with having a different opinion.
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So be an adult and take on The Donald. Or is the snowflake wit only capable of defending and revelling in the abuse of a 10 year old kid?

Wow - America has really lost her moral compass these past few months.
 
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sammsky1 said:
Adults calling adults 'snowflakes' hardly compares with an adult proclaiming to the entire world that a 10 year old boy will likely start shooting guns killing other young kids.

Seriously get some perspective! She was plainly wrong and thats the end of it.
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K2K said:
Calling someone snowflake just because they hold a contrasting opinion to yours is quite frankly stupid imo.

But the thing about the SNL writer is that because entity she works for, she holds massive sway but also will be held under greater scrutiny. Thus her comments were heavily questioned, apology or not.

I'm not worried about those comments because they are about Trump' s children but because I think we should let kids be kids. Celebrity kids have it hard enough growing up in the media, imagine growing up with a father like Donald on top of that.

Trump is easily open to ridicule because he tends to overreact to any such criticism. But let's just keep the insults on him.

That's all.
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One more crack at this then:

1. I repeat, we all agree the joke was inappropriate. Kids should be off limits.
2. Trump voters have been complaining about PC liberals ("snowflakes") for months/years, and their collective outrage and hysteria at all politically incorrect statements made by Trump and others.
3. Now that a liberal has made a politically incorrect joke about "one of their own", Trump voters collectively lose their shit and call for her to be sacked.
4. DiseaseOfTheAge and others are simply pointing out the hypocrisy of this - though not excusing the joke itself.

And yes, let's get some perspective. It was a bad and inappropriate joke made by a comedy writer. Nothing more. Nobody died. Comedy can be a tricky business sometimes, and comedians occasionally step over the line. She realized her error and apologized. Case should be closed.
 
As horrible as it might seem, if you become the most powerful person in the world everything you hold dear to you will be questioned and ridiculed by your opponents. Including your children, and their children and so on. I mean for fecks sake, people were actually making jokes about Chelsea Clinton timing her baby to help her mothers election bid. And this won't be the last time someone makes an off colour joke or comment about trumps cyberkid.
 
Silva said:
As horrible as it might seem, if you become the most powerful person in the world everything you hold dear to you will be questioned and ridiculed by your opponents. Including your children, and their children and so on. I mean for fecks sake, people were actually making jokes about Chelsea Clinton timing her baby to help her mothers election bid. And this won't be the last time someone makes an off colour joke or comment about trumps cyberkid.
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There was a lot of jokes about Chelsea Clinton and Amy Carter's looks when they were children in the White House.
 
Borden said:
One more crack at this then:

1. I repeat, we all agree the joke was inappropriate. Kids should be off limits.
2. Trump voters have been complaining about PC liberals ("snowflakes") for months/years, and their collective outrage and hysteria at all politically incorrect statements made by Trump and others.
3. Now that a liberal has made a politically incorrect joke about "one of their own", Trump voters collectively lose their shit and call for her to be sacked.
4. DiseaseOfTheAge and others are simply pointing out the hypocrisy of this - though not excusing the joke itself.

And yes, let's get some perspective. It was a bad and inappropriate joke made by a comedy writer. Nothing more. Nobody died. Comedy can be a tricky business sometimes, and comedians occasionally step over the line. She realized her error and apologized. Case should be closed.
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Thanks for explaining although I understood you the first time.

somebody once claimed my niece had the potential to grow into a child suicide bomber 'as a joke'. I didn't find that funny either. If you're a parent or have young siblings, I'd simply ask you to think how you'd honestly respond.

Politely we'll agree to disagree.
 
sammsky1 said:
Thanks for explaining although I understood you the first time.

somebody once claimed my niece had the potential to grow into a child suicide bomber 'as a joke'. I didn't find that funny either. If you're a parent or have young siblings, I'd simply ask you to think how you'd honestly respond.

Politely we'll agree to disagree.
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Oh I think I'd be able to shrug it off fairly quickly. Certainly wouldn't call up his/her boss and demand that he/she be fired.
 
Silva said:
As horrible as it might seem, if you become the most powerful person in the world everything you hold dear to you will be questioned and ridiculed by your opponents. Including your children, and their children and so on. I mean for fecks sake, people were actually making jokes about Chelsea Clinton timing her baby to help her mothers election bid. And this won't be the last time someone makes an off colour joke or comment about trumps cyberkid.
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Yes a few people may make those statements (I won't justify calling them 'jokes') but that does not make it right or acceptable imo.

BTW: Chelsea Clinton was an adult when she fell pregnant.

Anyways you're welcome to your opinion.
 
Borden said:
Oh I think I'd be able to shrug it off fairly quickly. Certainly wouldn't call up his/her boss and demand that he/she be fired.
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No - she still asks why that teacher said that.

FYI: The teacher was reprimanded and suspended with full support from the PTA and school governors.
 
sammsky1 said:
No - she still asks why that teacher said that.

FYI: The teacher was reprimanded and suspended with full support from the PTA and school governors.
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Well you didn't specify it was a teacher who said it to one of her (presumably very young) students. Of course that's different, don't be daft.
 
Remember when John McCain made a "why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly" joke back when she was a kid? No one does.
 
kps88 said:
Remember when John McCain made a "why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly" joke back when she was a kid? No one does.
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There were plenty of vile accusations, insinuations and plainly disgusting make up bs about the Obama family the last 8 years (Michelle is a man and the daughters are adopted secretly from Kenya). No one is going to shed a tear for little Baron. :rolleyes:
 
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