The Trump Presidency | Biden Inaugurated
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Attention. Showing that they do not give in. Or is it better to be quiet?
And as there is so many participating they see that they aren't alone.
Directly they do not achieve anything.
It's not hip to accept democracy these days, they are hoping to re-run the election, good luck with that.
Hopefully he doesn't stagger around, vigourously ransacking his dignity, until finally he releases several arcs of liquid silk from the fleshy nozzle of his fork.
Yea protesting never achieved anything, everyone should just accept everything.
The problems with protests to a certain extent is that while they're perhaps admirable in their idea, and can be a strong show of power and resolve, they're ultimately a bit useless if everyone's forgotten them the following Monday and has went on with their lives.
Protests have to be disruptive in some form to have any genuine effect. People moan at unions for strikes, perhaps, but that's the point, surely? You may piss people off, and may even find yourself in a difficult position because of it, but if you're not actually disrupting something to the point where you have to be listened to, then I feel like there's not going to ultimately be much difference.
It's the difference between saying something and doing something, I suppose.
Protests have to be disruptive in some form to have any genuine effect. People moan at unions for strikes, perhaps, but that's the point, surely? You may piss people off, and may even find yourself in a difficult position because of it, but if you're not actually disrupting something to the point where you have to be listened to, then I feel like there's not going to ultimately be much difference.
It's the difference between saying something and doing something, I suppose.
Tbf they need to stay engaged, that's the key. All well and good hitting the street for a day or two, but it takes a lot of commitment to fight this administration given their brazen agenda.
Was way more than 250k
This women's march is an absolute joke.
Ridiculous hysteria about Trump whipped up by the MSM and out of touch celebrities.
They fail to realise they are only turning people away from their bs cause.
Trump is president for at least four years hopefully eight, deal with it.
Ridiculous hysteria about Trump whipped up by the MSM and out of touch celebrities.
They fail to realise they are only turning people away from their bs cause.
Trump is president for at least four years hopefully eight, deal with it.
The amount of paid online trolls on web pages seems to grow in numbers from what i can tell. It used to be just a few here and there but looking at it over time they have grown massively in numbers especially on Bernie Sanders facebook account as far i can tell. I have seen the same on other online pages i visit as well to some degree. I think this is approaching dangerous levels for any democracy to be able to function in. Democracy with no transparency is no democracy at all. People cant make proper decisions if most of the information they get is from news factories. I really think this need to be countered on a massive scale in both U.S.A and EU. I really think production of fake news should be viewed as a serious crime in the courts. Though they should be handled by special groups were politicians have no direct influence on them to avoid conflict of interest and their job is to find the people producing it no matter the ideology. The extremism will flourish if left to publish fake news unchecked and that is no good to anyone that wants to have open and tolerant societies. A lot of it is likely produced in Russia and they need to be cut off from financing extremism around Europe through a banking system. Maybe it is time EU got serious and told Russia to lay off or face serious counter measures.
Yeah you tell 'em. You should go there and grab them all by the pussy.
I mean...I agree such events can often be quite hysteria-filled and will often lack any conflict of opinion or genuine discussion...but you do realise this Presidency could have some seriously negative effects for women, right? Trump's VP, who is essentially an impeachment or death away from the Presidency, is an anti-abortion religious nut who would quite happily see things like legalised abortion taken away again. Meanwhile, the repeal in Obamacare may lead to increased costs for women when it comes to birth control...ironically one of the most effective ways of stopping abortion.
I get that a lot of it can be quite hysterical, and much of it will be quite meaningless in the end because many protests today don't achieve anything since it's largely people standing around being mildly disruptive at best...but surely you can see why they're unhappy?
Do you think there are that many paid trolls if any? How can we outlaw fake news? wouldn't a satirical site like The Onion be under threat?
You can't outlaw "fake news". It would be the death of freedom of speech.
Obama did a lot of things many disagreed with as President, however they had respect for the office of the president and what it stands for and did not disrespect the office as this march has done today the day after the inauguration.
Hopefully just highlighting these two words will help you realise how daft you're being.
Short memory strikes again.
How am I being daft? The Onion is a site which posts news articles that are not true i.e. fake news.
Spicer complaining about the media coverage of inauguration crowds.
Ahh, so everyone the world over should just shut up and take it? How would history look then? These people live in the free world and have every right to protest against anything they wish to protest against. "Respect" works both ways.
It's not 'disrespecting' the office to march the day after the inauguration. You're perfectly entitled to protest against a politician at any time you wish. If Obama's campaign to become President had become as controversial and as scandal-ridden as Trump's, then we would've seen such protests. But whereas he went into (and left) the office with high approval ratings, Trump enters with incredibly low ones...historically low for an incoming President.
And respect is earned. Obama was respected by many for becoming the first black President after having worked hard to advance himself, and defeating a favoured Hilary Clinton in the Primary while defeating a respectable John McCain in the main contest. He came across as likable in the contest.
Trump, however, has sought to divide the country. When you intend to divide a country, placing distinct blame on groups who are not you...then those people are inherently going to be rather pissed off. Obama didn't do that. The night before his inauguration he gave his defeated opponent a dinner. He aimed to keep America united and looked to reach out to the opposing side...something they largely refused to reciprocate. Trump has spent the lead-up to his Presidency pissing off just about everyone who has dared call him out for the arsehole he is.
By putting satire and fake news on equal footing. Is Frankie Boyle saying "the Queen is so old her pussy is haunted" on Mock The Week, fake news or satire?
The guardian found these factories in Russia last year through undercover investigation so they are definitely real. They need to display it easily to the readers that what they write is satirical and should not be be taken as a news outlet.
First white house briefing turn into a debate about crowd size. This is a joke.
You can bet Trump forced Spicer to make that announcement.
Ministry of Truth. Good luck America.
Dear God, I just realized we have to take this propaganda for another 4 years. I guess this will feel like a poor man's North Korea after some time.
Because we can't tell the difference between grass and people now? They're feeding this monster, stoking the divisions.
We are smart enough to know it's satire but once you start putting laws on fake news, where is the line drawn?
Will satirical news sites be obliged to put warnings on their articles in case someone takes them as fact? What about in cases where the truth is hard to distinguish or ambiguous? Or do we control who is allowed to report news?
How are there not guffaws as this guy is talking?
I mean, today's protest happening probably as he was speaking makes a mockery of what he's saying.
Who's your daddy Sean spicer?
He's trying to get the news channels to stop talking about the marches today.
They did this repeatedly during the campaign that whenever something bad was being published, they would pull a stunt to pull attention away from the negative stories.
Is he forcing him to wear his suits too? It's totally outsized, just like Trump's are.
But what he's saying is patently not true because I'm looking at photographs now with way more people than the inauguration. They haven't had any of the problems he's mentioning. It's risible.
Holy shit, the president of the United States tells the White House press secretary to give excuses why it didn't look like there were many people there.
The media are going to have so much fun winding this guy up. He bites every single time
The media are going to have so much fun winding this guy up. He bites every single time
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
His supporters will lap it up and believe this. Look at all the screams of "FAKE NEWS" you hear his supporters say when anything negative is published.
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