The Trump Presidency | Biden Inaugurated

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worse than Hillary? doubtful, but yeah, possible i guess.

Wouldn't be the worse situation though. Sometimes you need to hit rock bottom to wake up.

like someone said: “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results”

You're blinded by too much hate that you didn't even think of that 3rd option. Says a lot no?
 
Twitter response from the Don incoming... I'm guessing something like...

He wasn't briefed on the report... he was briefed on the synopsis.... totally different things but bitter hillary flunky liberal media conflate the two into more FAKE NEWS.

Or he may go full on bill clinton is a germofile and gets hillary to give him a brown shower every morning?

Either way he lied his way into the top job so he probably isn't going to stop now!


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Is there no rule concerning presidential decorum?
 
Yeah, Russia says nothing exists so it must be true. Republicans, Democrats and intelligence are all lying, I know my Vlad and I trust him. His word is gospel.
 
Does the President not know that questions end with...question marks? Is he really that thick?
 
Dealing with the full stop at the end of F.B.I. obviously blew his mind.

To be fair to him, I think he was worried about character count. If he had included a question mark after FBI, he'd have had to remove one of those 5 ellipsis at the end of the tweet and it would have lost all dramatic effect.
 
I struggle to understand those that think it takes someone like Trump to fix a corrupt system. Excusing the fact that the fcuker is corrupt too, destroy and rebuild seems so short sighted. People actually hoping that he is so bad that he brings the system down with him. Thinking any hardship encountered would be worth it.

I just don't get it...
 
How. How can this man become the most powerful person on earth.
'Murica

And by that I mean, this is the culmination of the counter-counter-culture that's been stewing in this country since the 1960s. The Vietnam Era has borne it's final (hopefully) fruit.
 
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Oh wow, I hadn't heard about this..

Mr Tillerson told his confirmation hearing before the US Senate Foreign Relations Committee that he wanted to send a signal to China that their access to islands in the disputed South China Sea "is not going to be allowed". He did not elaborate.

'Not going to be allowed'?! Christ, I bet the Chinese were furious. Seriously stupid way to go about affecting policy change with the worlds next superpower. :eek:
 
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'Not going to be allowed'?! Christ, I bet the Chinese were furious. Seriously stupid way to go about affecting policy change with the worlds next superpower. :eek:
I think one of their state newspapers (admittedly one known for going a little over the top and not necessarily reflecting official policy) said:

"unless Washington plans to wage a large-scale war in the South China Sea, any other approaches to prevent Chinese access to the islands will be foolish."

"Tillerson had better bone up on nuclear power strategies if he wants to force a big nuclear power to withdraw from its own territories,"

Id say yes the chinese public care enough about the issue to go to war about it - not sure I envisage the same gutso in the USA general populous so thankfully I cant ever see us getting close to that nightmare scenario - but hey many thought trump would never come to power so I guess anything is possible:nervous:

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/13/politics/us-tillerson-china-reaction/index.html
 
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'Not going to be allowed'?! Christ, I bet the Chinese were furious. Seriously stupid way to go about affecting policy change with the worlds next superpower. :eek:

It's not really policy change though is it? Stronger language sure but China has been pissed off at the US for pushing this issue for years. Obama and Clinton have not left much legacy in that relationship
 
It's not really policy change though is it? Stronger language sure but China has been pissed off at the US for pushing this issue for years. Obama and Clinton have not left much legacy in that relationship

They've pushed it in the traditional diplomatic way. Telling a nuclear armed country as powerful as China that they are 'not allowed' to do something right on their doostep is outrageously provocative.
 
He's so fecking stupid. He denies accusations of being in bed with Russia in the same flurry of tweets that he admits being briefed by Russia. "Russia says nothing exists". Moron.
Not even a 5 years old come with that insane argument, what the feck he wants the Russians to say?
 
They've pushed it in the traditional diplomatic way. Telling a nuclear armed country as powerful as China that they are 'not allowed' to do something right on their doostep is outrageously provocative.

I think you're overlooking all the events that have caused ire from the Chinese in his last term. The US have upped the aggression across the board and warned China of consequences, i think they hold more weight than 'strong' words spoken between US politicians especially considering China has always laughed off previous statements.
 
I struggle to understand those that think it takes someone like Trump to fix a corrupt system. Excusing the fact that the fcuker is corrupt too, destroy and rebuild seems so short sighted. People actually hoping that he is so bad that he brings the system down with him. Thinking any hardship encountered would be worth it.

I just don't get it...
But I think you are right in terms of the thought process people have. Two fingers up to the system, nothing will ever change while insiders on either side are in charge, so bring someone in who will shake things up, some people will think he is a great businessman and will actually be a good CEO for US PLC, others will think he'll bring the system down and then something better can be rebuilt from the ashes. To be honest I disagree with that last sentiment (and the first one obviously) but I completely understand it. Its callous, as you said a lot of people will suffer if it goes down like that. But then every revolution has its casualties.
 
I think you're overlooking all the events that have caused ire from the Chinese in his last term. The US have upped the aggression across the board and warned China of consequences, i think they hold more weight than 'strong' words spoken between US politicians especially considering China has always laughed off previous statements.

There are very well established ways of expressing various stages of disapproval at the diplomatic level. The entire purpose is to be able to express a range of national positions without causing unexpected reactions. Surprise is the single biggest danger to international diplomacy, because that's what ends up leading to radical outcomes like war.

You'd pretty much never hear a professional diplomat using terms like 'allowed' because not only does it insult the target countries politicians, but it risks the public in that country being infuriated and cause a swell of nationalistic anger which then forces the politicians to pander to those emotions, worsening an already delicate situation.
 
Yes it did.

The Trump endgame could very well be the US + Russia vs. China.

Doesn't China own a shit load of US debt? God forbid they actually find other places to export their goods, they could really tighten the tie around the US neck by starting to offload the treasury holdings. They could win the war without a bullet fired.
 
Oh wow, I hadn't heard about this..



'Not going to be allowed'?! Christ, I bet the Chinese were furious. Seriously stupid way to go about affecting policy change with the worlds next superpower. :eek:
So bend over to the chinese? They built an island in a dispute area plus they want basically all the sea for themselves.
 
Doesn't China own a shit load of US debt? God forbid they actually find other places to export their goods, they could really tighten the tie around the US neck by starting to offload the treasury holdings. They could win the war without a bullet fired.

They would pay a massive price for that though. If they started offloading US debt it would push the price down, which would then reduce the value of the debt they still held.

Its like the old Keynes quote: If you owe your bank a hundred pounds, you have a problem. But if you owe a million, it has a problem. Same is true to some extent for China. Not that it doesnt have something over the US, but its a two way thing.
 
Doesn't China own a shit load of US debt? God forbid they actually find other places to export their goods, they could really tighten the tie around the US neck by starting to offload the treasury holdings. They could win the war without a bullet fired.
If all american companies find another place to manufacture their products then would be the end of China. About the debt I think they have about 1 trillion dollars and Trump will do what Obama did very well - prints more money.
 
Oh god. Is this why they're buddying up with the Russians?

Well if we take a look at The Dugin Plan that Putin seems to be following to the letter, all the pieces seem to be falling into place..

United Kingdom should be cut off from Europe ...

Basically done.

Ukraine should be annexed by Russia because "“Ukraine as a state has no geopolitical meaning, no particular cultural import or universal significance, no geographic uniqueness, no ethnic exclusiveness, its certain territorial ambitions represents an enormous danger for all of Eurasia and, without resolving the Ukrainian problem, it is in general senseless to speak about continental politics". Ukraine should not be allowed to remain independent, unless it is cordon sanitaire, which would be inadmissible

Work in progress.

Georgia should be dismembered. Abkhazia and "United Ossetia" (which includes Georgia's South Ossetia) will be incorporated into Russia. Georgia's independent policies are unacceptable

Work in progress.

Russia needs to create "geopolitical shocks" within Turkey. These can be achieved by employing Kurds, Armenians and other minorities.

Work in progress, rather spectacularly, imo.

Russia should use its special forces within the borders of the United States to fuel instability and separatism. For instance, provoke "Afro-American racists". Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics.

Work in progress.... These similar activities can be observed to be happening in Europe.


China, which represents a danger to Russia, "must, to the maximum degree possible, be dismantled".

Good luck with that one. Though just imagine having a puppet President of The United States with an anti-China agenda and administration dancing to your tune, then it sounds scary.
 
If all american companies find another place to manufacture their products then would be the end of China. About the debt I think they have about 1 trillion dollars and Trump will do what Obama did very well - prints more money.

They own more than 3 trillion or roughly 26% of all US treasury debt. If Chinese are not dependent on American exports, that disentangles their economy from the dollar and once they start offloading all debt, the dollar would fall worse than it did during the recession.
 
Well if we take a look at The Dugin Plan that Putin seems to be following to the letter, all the pieces seem to be falling into place..

United Kingdom should be cut off from Europe ...

Basically done.

Ukraine should be annexed by Russia because "“Ukraine as a state has no geopolitical meaning, no particular cultural import or universal significance, no geographic uniqueness, no ethnic exclusiveness, its certain territorial ambitions represents an enormous danger for all of Eurasia and, without resolving the Ukrainian problem, it is in general senseless to speak about continental politics". Ukraine should not be allowed to remain independent, unless it is cordon sanitaire, which would be inadmissible

Work in progress.

Georgia should be dismembered. Abkhazia and "United Ossetia" (which includes Georgia's South Ossetia) will be incorporated into Russia. Georgia's independent policies are unacceptable

Work in progress.

Russia needs to create "geopolitical shocks" within Turkey. These can be achieved by employing Kurds, Armenians and other minorities.

Work in progress, rather spectacularly, imo.

Russia should use its special forces within the borders of the United States to fuel instability and separatism. For instance, provoke "Afro-American racists". Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics.

Work in progress.... These similar activities can be observed to be happening in Europe.


China, which represents a danger to Russia, "must, to the maximum degree possible, be dismantled".

Good luck with that one. Though just imagine having a puppet President of The United States with an anti-China agenda and administration dancing to your tune, then it sounds scary.
Sounds like conspiracy theory to me.
 
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