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She seriously has the cheek to question the standards of journalism. That's interesting.

It's literally sickening the complete hypocrisy from her and her cnut of a boss. She was on CNN before she worked for the Moron and said how disgusting she found him (because of his sexism and misogyny) and his constant lies, then she gets the call to work for him and he's now the second coming of the Messiah. I really wish when she is next interviewed that someone will play back the footage of her going after the Moron, the disgust and revulsion from her was very real for all to see.

On top of that The Moron Elect ran a hate campaign of baseless lies about Obama and his birth certificate and during the election he attacked Ted Cruz numerous times with baseless allegations that were published in the National Enquirer, a sleazy tabloid publication that The Moron Elect has close ties to and the Editor whom is a very close personal friend. That shoddy excuse for a newspaper accused Cruz of numerous affairs and said that his father was involved in the assassination of JFK. The Moron went after Cruz and caused Ted to have the famous Kevin Keegan-esq meltdown, which in truth, he was rightly justified to do so. However, all of this just shows how low The Moron and Kellyanne both are. The pair of them have absolutely no conscience, no shame and will lie, cheat, scam and do or say absolutely anything they can to get what they want out of any situation. I just wish that someone would have the balls to go after them both in interviews because I am absolutely certain that if both were pressed hard enough and if enough evidence (that is abundant) was shown to back up the allegations, then both would crack and lose it. This is where I struggle to comprehend how they get away with it, because they are just liars. I find it astounding that there isn't smarter and braver journalists out there that are willing to take it to the pair of them. It's absolutely astonishing.
 
On top of that The Moron Elect ran a hate campaign of baseless lies about Obama and his birth certificate and during the election he attacked Ted Cruz numerous times with baseless allegations that were published in the National Enquirer, a sleazy tabloid publication that The Moron Elect has close ties to and the Editor whom is a very close personal friend. That shoddy excuse for a newspaper accused Cruz of numerous affairs and said that his father was involved in the assassination of JFK. The Moron went after Cruz and caused Ted to have the famous Kevin Keegan-esq meltdown, which in truth, he was rightly justified to do so. However, all of this just shows how low The Moron and Kellyanne both are.

Tears of laughter right now after reading that in combination with this video, not kidding. Somehow I missed that part of their battle last year, though I was very well aware of who Ted Cruz is. I'm sorry but the absurditiy of the character Ted Cruz topped by that claim of a same calibre narcisist is just too much for me. My sweet lord, that really happened eh? I mean, no one in the world liked Ted Cruz, but only the Donald could go that far.

 
It's quite clear Tillerson is very, very hesitant to call out Putin because the man has direct conflict of interests there. Rubio, for all his faults, does a very good job of highlighting that and Tillerson's dancing around the issue demonstrates him for what he is.

It'd be extremely embarrassing for the Republicans to confirm Tillerson - if they ever genuinely want to be seen as the anti-Russia party again then they're destroying any shreds of credibility in that department they've built up over the years.

The US have obviously been far from perfect in foreign wars and many, many ethical questions can be cast against them in cases like Iraq, but Putin's crimes shouldn't be up for doubt and Tillerson is plainly defending his own interests in the country which have been hampered by sanctions. Trump is likely doing the same, and refuses to release his taxes because we'll see the damaging extent to which he's conflicted business wise, before even going into the possibility of him being blackmailed/compromised by them.
 
I thought Tillerson did a pretty good job. He went against Drumpf on issues like Crimea, TPP and a few others. At the end of the day he has to delicately balance his own views against Trump's amidst a backdrop of being questioned by a group of anti-Russia hawks.
 
I thought Tillerson did a pretty good job. He went against Drumpf on issues like Crimea, TPP and a few others. At the end of the day he has to delicately balance his own views against Trump's amidst a backdrop of being questioned by a group of anti-Russia hawks.

What he says in public will likely mean feck all compared to what he does in private. I suspect any opposition to Trump will quickly be dropped if it appears to be compromising his interests in the background at all. Disagreements on Crimea, for example, will likely be shelved as sanctions are lifted so Tillerson and his cronies can get all their oil interests going again.
 
How can any politician be so obviously pro-Russia - after decades of America's tremendous opposition to that nation - and still have public support (to the point whereby they become President)? This seems unthinkable to me. How on earth could that happen, given America's post-WWII history of antipathy? Children of several generations have been raised to, effectively, despise and distrust Russia...
 
How can any politician be so obviously pro-Russia - after decades of America's tremendous opposition to that nation - and still have public support (to the point whereby they become President)? This seems unthinkable to me. How on earth could that happen, given America's post-WWII history of antipathy? Children of several generations have been raised to, effectively, despise and distrust Russia...
Especially staggering given the data showing that the biggest chunk of Trump voters weren't the young folk
 
Tears of laughter right now after reading that in combination with this video, not kidding. Somehow I missed that part of their battle last year, though I was very well aware of who Ted Cruz is. I'm sorry but the absurditiy of the character Ted Cruz topped by that claim of a same calibre narcisist is just too much for me. My sweet lord, that really happened eh? I mean, no one in the world liked Ted Cruz, but only the Donald could go that far.



I have no love for Ted Cruz, far from it, but he and his wife were treated disgustingly by the Moron Elect and his friends at The National Enquirer. I cannot blame Ted for his reaction at all, I felt extremely sorry for him and his family for having to deal with all that. The Moron Elect just dragged every single one of his opponents down to the gutter, yeah he may have won, but he didn't win fairly or with any amount of dignity and that is why he is so hated by many people, and that is why he is respected so little by so many. So many of his supporters admire him for his nasty and devious tactics too, which is why I cannot respect many of them, or their views either. Politics has always been a dirty game but this has taken it all to a new level. Or should I say, this campaign has sank to new depths never seen before.

How can any politician be so obviously pro-Russia - after decades of America's tremendous opposition to that nation - and still have public support (to the point whereby they become President)? This seems unthinkable to me. How on earth could that happen, given America's post-WWII history of antipathy? Children of several generations have been raised to, effectively, despise and distrust Russia...

I know, it's as if none of them have seen Rocky IV or Rambo II :wenger::wenger::wenger:
 
First Carl Bernstein outs KellyAnne as one of the biggest leakers. Now others are beginning to follow suit....

 
How can any politician be so obviously pro-Russia - after decades of America's tremendous opposition to that nation - and still have public support (to the point whereby they become President)? This seems unthinkable to me. How on earth could that happen, given America's post-WWII history of antipathy? Children of several generations have been raised to, effectively, despise and distrust Russia...

It's really weird. Almost as if a lot of Americans never really hated, or even cared, about Russia that much, but kind of did to fit in and went along with Russia being the enemy. Give it a couple of decades of America then peddling Russia no longer being a major threat and an irrelevance, and those Americans who were always told to hate something find new targets: liberals, Democrats, and basically anyone who doesn't conform to their world view.
 
Now here's an interesting twist. Fox News and the only decent reporter on the station, Shepard Smith DEFENDS CNN and swipes the Moron Elect at the same time.



Nice work Shep.
 
They did not go up 221% under ACA. They went up steadily to total 221% since 1999. Not knowing when ACA kicked in you'd struggle to see a blip in that graph so how call ACA a disaster since the start. 24 newly covered people say thanks.

As for poorer coverage. That's a little hard to believe. We had pretty good coverage at work and they turned out to be Aca-inompatible. I had to improve employee coverage. Many improvements are hidden to the currently healthy person but they will appreciate it when they fall sick.

The real driver is spiraling healthcare costs that insurance has to cover. We can't keep adding super expensive tests and medication without paying the price. We can't have it both ways. Using my analogy above, don't expect to pay the same car insurance rates for a Ford escort and a Ferrari. One carries a higher premium.
I do have good insurance but was better before all this and the premium keeps going up.
 
The fox news correspondant who was at the press conference claimed that he had never seen anything like it, and that most of the press corps were with their colleague. Blatant attempt at intimidating them.
 
How can any politician be so obviously pro-Russia - after decades of America's tremendous opposition to that nation - and still have public support (to the point whereby they become President)? This seems unthinkable to me. How on earth could that happen, given America's post-WWII history of antipathy? Children of several generations have been raised to, effectively, despise and distrust Russia...

Russia is no longer the big bad monster out to get us...the cold war is long forgotten...

It's all about ISIS, Islam and Muslims in general....they're the ones we have to fear/fight/hate.
 
Carl Bernstein calling Kellyanne a propaganda minister now, I should watch more CNN.

From http://www.politico.com/story/2017/...yanne-conway-trump-russia-intel-report-233514 :

Later on Wednesday night, journalist Carl Bernstein defended his reporting for CNN on the report, calling Conway a "propaganda minister."

"It's time to talk about what we do as journalists and what propaganda ministers do and that is what she is is a propaganda minister. What we've seen here tonight is a deconstruction of the journalistic process. And we did our work and you can deconstruct it and it comes down to, look, the chief officials of the United States intelligence community believed they had something urgent enough to bring to the attention of the president and the president-elect of the united States. That is a story," he said.
 
:lol:, the times we live in.

Hannity was on straight after, I was aware of his reputation and watched his show for the first time.....how he is allowed to dress up his bullshit as 'news' is quite astonishing.

It's astounding. My parents are staunch trump supporters. It blows my mind. I repeated everything he said including grab her by the pussy and my mother said she was buying me soap for Christmas. Then my daughter said he's only saying what the guy you're voting for said.

My daughter beats up stoves but she's a viper
 
Rubio always comes across like he's playing to the cameras and preparing for his next presidential run.
 
My God. I made the mistake of reading a transcript of Trump's ramblings. He's incapable of forming a coherent sentence or demonstrating any kind of rational thought pattern. I honestly think he may be in the early stages of dementia. Either that or unintelligent to the point of having a learning disability. Possibly both.
 
He talked about this bill and working with Sessions in his testimony. Did you not see it?

I saw the hearing. He said he was "blessed and honoured" to have worked with Sessions in 2015 when they sponsored the bill together.

Fast forward to what he said yesterday

We've seen Jeff Sessions, that's Senator Jeff Sessions, consistently voting against or speaking out against key ideals of the Voting Rights Act, taking measures to try to block criminal justice reform," Booker said on MSNBC. "He has a posture and a positioning that I think represent a real danger to our country."

But the immense powers of the attorney general combined with the deeply troubling views of this nominee is a call to conscience."

Why would you feel "honoured and blessed" to work with someone whose views you consider a "danger to the country" and has "deeply troubling views?
 
My God. I made the mistake of reading a transcript of Trump's ramblings. He's incapable of forming a coherent sentence or demonstrating any kind of rational thought pattern. I honestly think he may be in the early stages of dementia. Either that or unintelligent to the point of having a learning disability. Possibly both.
I can't say I can offer any serious view on this but it regularly goes through my mind, upon seeing clips from twenty/thirty years ago, how different he seems to me in terms of his mannerisms.
 
Would not surprise me if we see video and photo footage being leaked in the next week.
 
I don't see how Rubio was brilliant. Tillerson just did what everybody pretty much expected him to do. For Rubio it was simply a show to gain moral points but Tillerson hardly gave a shit.
 
I doubt anyone is surprised but check out The Donald's legal forms he was proudly boasting about and showcasing from the press conference. No folder labels, no page numbers, the paper is apparently the wrong size (not legal size), no stickies, an utter lack of any form of organisation at all etc.

 
I doubt anyone is surprised but check out The Donald's legal forms he was proudly boasting about and showcasing from the press conference. No folder labels, no page numbers, the paper is apparently the wrong size (not legal size), no stickies, an utter lack of any form of organisation at all etc.



Apt metaphor.
 
My God. I made the mistake of reading a transcript of Trump's ramblings. He's incapable of forming a coherent sentence or demonstrating any kind of rational thought pattern. I honestly think he may be in the early stages of dementia. Either that or unintelligent to the point of having a learning disability. Possibly both.

:lol: I swear reading your posts in this thread just reminds me of my posts over the last 18 months or so in the US Election thread.
 
Apt metaphor.

Yup, I thought the same and pretty much Tweeted the same in reply. That stack of bullshit papers just reminded me of his nasty trick when he filled the stage with his "steaks" and water bottles and wines and vodka when he gave a press conference at his Florida golf course during the election, or like when he paraded the alleged rape victims in front of Bill Clinton before and during the debate. He does this for a couple of reasons, one because of his ego, he wants people to see how big and clever he is ( or he thinks he is) and make people think he's working hard, and the second reason as with the other two occasions is to confuse people and swerve their attention away from something damaging to him that he doesn't want out in the open, or to answer any questions about. He's just a giant conman working a larger stage and audience, I do think he surely has to get busted soon though. If there's any justice in the world he will because if not my faith in humanity may be completely ruined forever.
 
I'm past the point of anger and fear of the thought of his Presidency. I'm actually quite relaxed about it now because I refuse to believe that this risible character will be able to keep his shit together long enough to cause any real damage. I don't think he is going to last 6 months in the job let alone 4 years.

It's a 14+ hour a day job, 7 days a week which requires constant attention, research and reflection. He's going to be constantly letting hugely influential people down with his lack of knowledge, interest and effort and will end up a political laughing stock forced out of the role kicking and screaming.
 
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