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As much as Trump is the devil, in my opinion this story was reported for the sole reason people wanted to believe.
People have to be careful here. When the real Trump reckoning comes along people will be desensitised to it because of this Trump fatigue that he'll get away with it.
 
He's going to need massive Financial irregularities and conflict of interest issues to drag him down - personal or behavioral things won't matter one iota.

lets think about the mechanics of impeachment.

The Republicans are in the majority. They would need to bring this to a vote.

We are still a Democracy...strange as it may seem. Not because of Trump. But inspite of him.

Do you see anyone who votes for impeachment from the GOP going back home to face their voters?

And do Democrats really want a President Pence who can pass crazy laws with all branches of power in their hands?
 
lets think about the mechanics of impeachment.

The Republicans are in the majority. They would need to bring this to a vote.

We are still a Democracy...strange as it may seem. Not because of Trump. But inspite of him.

Do you see anyone who votes for impeachment from the GOP going back home to face their voters?

And do Democrats really want a President Pence who can pass crazy laws with all branches of power in their hands?
I'm not saying it's going to happen - just saying what it would take for it to be a serious consideration.
 
As much as Trump is the devil, in my opinion this story was reported for the sole reason people wanted to believe.
People have to be careful here. When the real Trump reckoning comes along people will be desensitised to it because of this Trump fatigue that he'll get away with it.
On the contrary, this is only the tip of the iceberg. Trump is a lifelong crook, and there will be a mountain of evidence that appears days after day, week after week and month after month until this lucid nightmare is over. It's been reported for a year now that Trump is Putin's useful idiot and everything he does and says and only confirms that.
 
I don't get it. why are people treating the CNN story as fake? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that nothing proved CNN's story to be wrong. The intelligence did brief Obama and Trump that the Russians have compromising material concerning him, right? It's the buzzfeed piss story that is false.
 
On the contrary, this is only the tip of the iceberg. Trump is a lifelong crook, and there will be a mountain of evidence that appears days after day, week after week and month after month until this lucid nightmare is over. It's been reported for a year now that Trump is Putin's useful idiot and everything he does and says and only confirms that.
Can we not wait though? People are jumping on everything just in case its true, it's terrible investigative journalism.
Up there with the nucelar destruction of Trumps bid story that was definitely going to be made public, oh they're just waiting until election week for full effect etc.
It's all wishful thinking at the minute. What have people found a few months after his election that the liberal media couldn't find during the entire few years of his initial campaign?
Clinton and her entire empire worth of contacts couldn't dig up anything of substance yet everything is exposed weeks after she loses?
Lets find something concrete and nail him to the wall but this just isn't the way to go about it
 
Can we not wait though? People are jumping on everything just in case its true, it's terrible investigative journalism.
Up there with the nucelar destruction of Trumps bid story that was definitely going to be made public, oh they're just waiting until election week for full effect etc.
It's all wishful thinking at the minute. What have people found a few months after his election that the liberal media couldn't find during the entire few years of his initial campaign?
Clinton and her entire empire worth of contacts couldn't dig up anything of substance yet everything is exposed weeks after she loses?
Lets find something concrete and nail him to the wall but this just isn't the way to go about it
They did. This has been reported in a ton of outlets months prior to the election. The only new thing that has been published is the dossier on Buzzfeed. And Buzzfeed itself has said that it hasn't verified everything and the report contains some errors. The story here is the continuation of Trump Russia link.
 
I don't get it. why are people treating the CNN story as fake? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that nothing proved CNN's story to be wrong. The intelligence did brief Obama and Trump that the Russians have compromising material concerning him, right? It's the buzzfeed piss story that is false.

Correct.
 
He's a fecking cnut who is not fit to be president. Disgraceful behaviour that you're more likely to see in primary school from little kids than someone about to become president.
 
I'm cynical. so yes. It is funny.

Irony is not the word I would use.

"You reap what you sow" is an appropriate phrase though.

I understand where you are coming from though, butt hurt Sanders voters will hate the press. I'd also say 'cutting your nose to spite the face' is an appropriate phrase here.
 
I don't get it. why are people treating the CNN story as fake? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that nothing proved CNN's story to be wrong. The intelligence did brief Obama and Trump that the Russians have compromising material concerning him, right? It's the buzzfeed piss story that is false.

Buzzfeed did kind of screw CNN by posting the memos for all to see, given the how outlandish some of the claims are. But on the other hand CNN maybe could've been more considering of the fact that half of DC had copies of the memo apparently, so there was a probability it would come out.
 
I don't get it. why are people treating the CNN story as fake? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that nothing proved CNN's story to be wrong. The intelligence did brief Obama and Trump that the Russians have compromising material concerning him, right? It's the buzzfeed piss story that is false.

And once again you see the 'genius' of Trump and his peeps. This is what he does - he mixes and matches - speaks lies and half truths...discombobulated mutterings...and in the end, the average person is confused as feck.

I bet half the people out there think the CNN and Buzzfeed stories are one and the same.
 
Buzzfeed did kind of screw CNN by posting the memos for all to see, given the how outlandish some of the claims are. But on the other hand CNN maybe could've been more considering of the fact that half of DC had copies of the memo apparently, so there was a probability it would come out.

I'm getting confused now. They are not the same memos. Are you saying the Ritz story is true? or do these memos have more stories in them?
 
Buzzfeed did kind of screw CNN by posting the memos for all to see, given the how outlandish some of the claims are. But on the other hand CNN maybe could've been more considering of the fact that half of DC had copies of the memo apparently, so there was a probability it would come out.

I wonder if the Buzzfeed article was leaked by team Trump to ridicule and lessen the impact of the CNN story.

The fact they had a lot of the finer details right is interesting.
 
I'm getting confused now. They are not the same memos. Are you saying the Ritz story is true? or do these memos have more stories in them?

No, it is. CNN updated its story to confirm as much. But initially they had not commented on any info of the memos, just linked the memos to the 2-page annex by the IC to POTUS and PEOTUS.

:lol: And I have no idea if the Ritz story is true. What seems true is that everyone in DC has seen the memos with the Ritz story, and it also seems true that a former MI6 officer with no prior history of BS (which is not sufficient endorsement by itself) is the origin of the memos.
 
I wonder if the Buzzfeed article was leaked by team Trump to ridicule and lessen the impact of the CNN story.

The fact they had a lot of the finer details right is interesting.

I thought about this, it seemed pretty quick after. But who knows... I generally don't trade in conspiracies simply because by starting at the point where you believe anything is possible just leads to unfocused and confused thinking. I'll stay at 'think they had it, saw CNN, was quick to just dump it and enjoy the traffic' for now.
 
I wonder if the Buzzfeed article was leaked by team Trump to ridicule and lessen the impact of the CNN story.

The fact they had a lot of the finer details right is interesting.
Almost certainly not. The last thing the Trump camp wants is the Russia links to keep resurfacing. They're more interesting in him having social media fights with actors because that's inconsequential fluff.
 
Almost certainly not. The last thing the Trump camp wants is the Russia links to keep resurfacing. They're more interesting in him having social media fights with actors because that's inconsequential fluff.

They'd already resurfaced and they were the most serious yet. These Buzzfeed ridiculous golden shower stories has thrown cold water on them and made people doubt their authenticity.
 
They'd already resurfaced and they were the most serious yet. These Buzzfeed ridiculous golden shower stories has thrown cold water on them and made people doubt their authenticity.
"let's deny he's a perv rather than a traitor"? I mean, it's plausible, but that only works with people who don't already have a reputation for being massive perverts.
 
What I gather is that Buzzfeed published the report of Christopher Steel. The report is there for all to see on Buzzfeed's site. CNN amongst others, on the other hand, reported the existence of the report and that Obama & Trump had been aware of the report. No idea where the piss story is from, but it's been doing the rounds since yesterday. Then today Trump gave the most bizarre press conference you are likely to see by any elected state of head anywhere anytime, in which he (or his lawyer to be exact) first promised that Trump would not get involved in his business empire during the duration of his presidency, and then Trump declared war on Mexico, the pharmaceutical industry and CNN. In a nutshell. Wrong or right?
 
What I gather is that Buzzfeed published the report of Christopher Steel. The report is there for all to see on Buzzfeed's site. CNN amongst others, on the other hand, reported the existence of the report and that Obama & Trump had been aware of the report. No idea where the piss story is from, but it's been doing the rounds since yesterday. Then today Trump gave the most bizarre press conference you are likely to see by any elected state of head anywhere anytime, in which he (or his lawyer to be exact) first promised that Trump would not get involved in his business empire during the duration of his presidency, and then Trump declared war on Mexico, the pharmaceutical industry and CNN. In a nutshell. Wrong or right?
Yeah that's about right.
 
What I gather is that Buzzfeed published the report of Christopher Steel. The report is there for all to see on Buzzfeed's site. CNN amongst others, on the other hand, reported the existence of the report and that Obama & Trump had been aware of the report. No idea where the piss story is from, but it's been doing the rounds since yesterday. Then today Trump gave the most bizarre press conference you are likely to see by any elected state of head anywhere anytime, in which he (or his lawyer to be exact) first promised that Trump would not get involved in his business empire during the duration of his presidency, and then Trump declared war on Mexico, the pharmaceutical industry and CNN. In a nutshell. Wrong or right?

The piss story is from page 2 of the report. Other than that, yes I think this can be the official version of the cliff notes.
 
My mom saw his press conference and heard him speak for the 1st time today.
After the shock about his vocabulary, etc.:
"Aren't his hands really small?"
 
He should prove he has no financial ties to Russia (among other things) by releasing his tax returns.
he should prove his skin does not have traces of Russian female urine DNA (is that even possible?!)

BTW: When was this incident meant to have taken place? Was he actually at the Ritz Carlton at the time of the allegations?
 
Just saw bits of the Tillerson questioning by Rubio. A pathetic display and an absolute waste of time because no way was Tillerson going to say anything out of the ordinary. I swear I feel like I'm living in some weird dream because I'm seeing so much absolute bullshit going on currently. Priorities are not where they are.

2pac wasn't lying when he said Republicans and Democrats are essentially huge gangs.
 
why do you say that?
Because he didn't explain the details of how he'll handle his businesses during his presidency but let Russia's law firm of the year 2016 do it for him, and because he did everything to make sure to take as few questions as possible.
Somebody with guts wouldn't delegate the first part and would take all those challenging questions. I didn't expect him to take a lot of questions but to feck off so quickly was even more cowardly of him than I expected.
 
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