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Red Dreams said:
Firstly.
Policies are what people need.
health Care
Education
Climate Change....

As for getting policies through legislation, I would suggest we do not surrender before we even start.
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All of which Pelosi supports.
https://votesmart.org/candidate/political-courage-test/26732/nancy-pelosi/#.XS3_ayXTXDs
So what’s your actual point?

I’m sure you also understand that with Trump in the White House and a Republican majority in the Senate, Dems have limited power and influence on what bills get through.

And they will need to compromise heavily on their ideals if they want to affect change while this situation persists. They’ll also need to show a United front. Which they are failing to do.
 
MadMike said:
All of which Pelosi supports.
https://votesmart.org/candidate/political-courage-test/26732/nancy-pelosi/#.XS3_ayXTXDs
So what’s your actual point?

I’m sure you also understand that with Trump in the White House and a Republican majority in the Senate, Dems have limited power and influence on what bills get through.

And they will need to compromise heavily on their ideals if they want to affect change while this situation persists. They’ll also need to show a United front. Which they are failing to do.
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You mean gives lip service.

Lets get real.
 
Red Dreams said:
All this calling him Racist is not going to make one jot of difference to his voters. In fact it merely strengthens his position.
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His supporters won’t win him re-election, swing voters will.

The US is a pretty shitty place but, outside of his redneck base, being too overtly racist isn’t going to do him any favours. Let’s not forget that the most important swing state in the entire country is Florida, where a huge proportion of the population is Hispanic. Overtly telling a US born Latina woman to “go home” ain’t going to play well there.
 
Mr Pigeon said:
The truly irritating thing about this is that, for as right as she is about all of it, Trump and his followers won't even read past the first sentence and just brush it off.
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She's not talking to his base though or even her own. She's talking to the people who are undecided about how they will vote. The smart thing is that she is not only pointing out his flaws and negativity but it offering another way.
 
Fully Fledged said:
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She's not talking to his base though or even her own. She's talking to the people who are undecided about how they will vote. The smart thing is that she is not only pointing out his flaws and negativity but it offering another way.
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True enough.
 
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Everyone caught up in his racist attacks are missing the point. We all know he is a racist piece of shit, we always have. This is nothing new. However, it's conveniently moved the focus and topic away from Trump's connection and involvement with Epstein.

90% of his supporters will be perfectly fine with his comments and back his racist stance. I doubt as many would back or defend him for being a dirty paedophile.

He's successfully done it again and diverted and manipulated the news.
 
RochaRoja said:
His supporters won’t win him re-election, swing voters will.

The US is a pretty shitty place but, outside of his redneck base, being too overtly racist isn’t going to do him any favours. Let’s not forget that the most important swing state in the entire country is Florida, where a huge proportion of the population is Hispanic. Overtly telling a US born Latina woman to “go home” ain’t going to play well there.
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Its poor turnout for the Democrats that will allow Trump to win.

Important we get a nominee that actually wants to serve, rather than just get elected.
 
Red Dreams said:
I looked through that link you provided.

Its very generic.

Here is where progressives are. I used Bernie's policy positions.

https://feelthebern.org/
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But I never said she was a progressive, because she's not. However on the core policies you mentioned as "real" policies, she's in tune. Unless you somehow infer that only progressives have real policies.

EDIT: And obviously she's not a presidential candidate like Bernie so there's no page with pledges for her. Her job is to get business done in the lower house.
 
MadMike said:
But I never said she was a progressive, because she's not. However on the core policies you mentioned as "real" policies, she's in tune. Unless you somehow infer that only progressives have real policies.
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Firstly she calls herself a Progressive. An untruth obviously.

She is a Corporatists. Meaning she serves corporations interests. Not the interests of ordinary people.
 
langster said:
Everyone caught up in his racist attacks are missing the point. We all know he is a racist piece of shit, we always have. This is nothing new. However, it's conveniently moved the focus and topic away from Trump's connection and involvement with Epstein.

90% of his supporters will be perfectly fine with his comments and back his racist stance. I doubt as many would back or defend him for being a dirty paedophile.

He's successfully done it again and diverted and manipulated the news.
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Correct. And he’ll keep on doing it if people keep falling for it. When the pressure on him increases....Epstein, Mueller and the Concentration camps at the moment.....he turns nastier and nastier. Completely ignoring him would be the best idea. Responding to his nastiness is not only getting people thoroughly wound up but distracting them from his criminality and treachery. News media should wise up.
 
langster said:
Everyone caught up in his racist attacks are missing the point. We all know he is a racist piece of shit, we always have. This is nothing new. However, it's conveniently moved the focus and topic away from Trump's connection and involvement with Epstein.

90% of his supporters will be perfectly fine with his comments and back his racist stance. I doubt as many would back or defend him for being a dirty paedophile.

He's successfully done it again and diverted and manipulated the news.
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I've never bought this Trump master-plan argument before, and I'm not buying it now. The fact of the matter is that there's always some kind of scandal going on with Trump, so whenever he says something racist or sexist or just plain stupid on Twitter, people will go "aha! He's cleverly deflecting from this other thing". In reality he's just racist, sexist and stupid, and lacks the self-control not to immediately say whatever racist, sexist or stupid thing is on his mind. Fact of the matter is, there's a reason Trump is at a 42% approval rate despite the US economy going great, and that reason is this kind of stuff.
 
Dear White America,

Please follow your President's advice and go back to where your ancestors came from.

Regards,
The American Indian Movement.
 
nimic said:
I've never bought this Trump master-plan argument before, and I'm not buying it now. The fact of the matter is that there's always some kind of scandal going on with Trump, so whenever he says something racist or sexist or just plain stupid on Twitter, people will go "aha! He's cleverly deflecting from this other thing". In reality he's just racist, sexist and stupid, and lacks the self-control not to immediately say whatever racist, sexist or stupid thing is on his mind. Fact of the matter is, there's a reason Trump is at a 42% approval rate despite the US economy going great, and that reason is this kind of stuff.
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Spot on. He's a child in how he acts and reacts. There is no strategy in it, it's just instinctual. He's the political version of Suarez biting an opponent.
 
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