The Trump Presidency | Biden Inaugurated

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Scarlett Dracarys said:
I know some personally who have gotten awfully quiet lately.
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As do I, which is enjoyable, in a schadenfreude kinda way. Several of the ones I work with had very little to say about the revelation that the American taxpayer is going to pay for "the wall" then hope Mexico pays us back.

On the flip side, it's a double edged sword when I point things out to the Trump supporters that I know, because I know every misstep he makes now is actually going to have consequences on me too in just a couple of weeks.
 
I'm so looking forward to his first state of the Union address, half the room not standing and applauding is going to really shock him and I guarantee his response will be much worse than "you lie".
 
langster said:
I can't understand how all this is being allowed relatively unquestioned? I mean, his appointments are some of the biggest criminals in the banking and oil sectors, completely unqualified to run a country but over qualified to embellish serious amounts of money or dish it all out to their rich friends and business partners. Then you have the outright lying about many serious situation, convincing people that the entire press is lying, and then you have family members involved in serious political briefings and business meetings. It really does seem as if the virtual cookie jar has just been opened and now everyone is in it for as much as they can get. I bet even the American public don't get the crumbs left at the bottom. Nothing, I mean ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about this transition has any professional feel about it, there is not one single feeling of it being a serious transition of a serious candidate wanting to change the country and make a serious difference. It all seems like an elaborate joke.

I find it quite ludicrous that all this is being allowed from the very top and nobody is able to do anything about it. Saying it is all bizarre is a huge understatement. If all this was going on in a third world country, then yeah, you could believe it and it would make sense, but it's not! The whole US public is being taken for a ride and half of them are going along willingly. It's so sad, so depressing and so very worrying. Let's not even mention or think about the G8. Feck me, this shit is loco!
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It's kind of the paradox of Trump's whole Presidency, though. He ran on a campaign of protectionism and isolationism even though he's a global businessman who has benefited from globalisation for years...and who is now littering his cabinet with establishment Republicans and big businessman who also epitomise globalisation in many ways (and perhaps epitomise its bad parts). It's difficult to see him as someone vastly changing the American landscape when many of the people he wants to surround himself with like Tillerson are the sort who will hardly want to restrict their business ventures to America alone.
 
Cheesy said:
It's kind of the paradox of Trump's whole Presidency, though. He ran on a campaign of protectionism and isolationism even though he's a global businessman who has benefited from globalisation for years...and who is now littering his cabinet with establishment Republicans and big businessman who also epitomise globalisation in many ways (and perhaps epitomise its bad parts). It's difficult to see him as someone vastly changing the American landscape when many of the people he wants to surround himself with like Tillerson are the sort who will hardly want to restrict their business ventures to America alone.
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He is apparently draining the swamp and making murica great again isn't he... just like he promised
 
Cheesy said:
It's kind of the paradox of Trump's whole Presidency, though. He ran on a campaign of protectionism and isolationism even though he's a global businessman who has benefited from globalisation for years...and who is now littering his cabinet with establishment Republicans and big businessman who also epitomise globalisation in many ways (and perhaps epitomise its bad parts). It's difficult to see him as someone vastly changing the American landscape when many of the people he wants to surround himself with like Tillerson are the sort who will hardly want to restrict their business ventures to America alone.
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Excellent post mate, that sums it all up perfectly. It's astonishing how he's been getting away with it so far.
 
GiddyUp said:
I'm so looking forward to his first state of the Union address, half the room not standing and applauding is going to really shock him and I guarantee his response will be much worse than "you lie".
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Oh god, I'd somehow forgotten that the SOTU is just around the corner as well! That should be prime time television gold.
Cheesy said:
Trump being remembered nothing more as the equivalent of a bad night out where you drank too much in American history
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Can you imagine the Drunk History episode on the Trump presidency?
 
senorgregster said:
He'll probably have the Clinton women as his guests at the stou to boost ratings.
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:lol: Probably. Shouldn't laugh really, that was truly despicable, completely done just to turn attention away from his misogyny and disgusting behaviour. I feel not enough was made out of that truly bizarre moment. The same as him admitting and witnesses confirming him walking in on nude contestants in the JUNIOR beauty contests.
 
Dante said:
It'll teach them to be more discerning with their votes next time. US politics will shift to the Left when they see how bad the visceral Right can be.
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The majority of those people are not capable of learning (or shifting). These are the same people who voted for Bush for a second time, after the Iraq war and after it was proven that Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction...

The probability that they will vote for someone even worse in the future is quite high.
 
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Dante said:
It'll teach them to be more discerning with their votes next time. US politics will shift to the Left when they see how bad the visceral Right can be.
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I thought that during Bush presidency but the opposite happened, it shifted more to the right
 
Does he really thinks turning all intelligence agencies against him is gonna do him any good? Maybe he doesn't know american history :lol:
 
The use of "and/or" there is amazing.
 
Mciahel Goodman said:
He's trying his living best to turn the presidency into a reality TV show irrelevancy. I'm certain it's by design, too. Maybe not his, but his camp knows what they're doing.
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I hadn't really considered this before reading your post, mate. I (naively) thought that he was just reckless and stupid; in reality, his whole 'irresponsible' schtick could be distraction/'interference' while he truly concentrates on deals which benefit himself, his family and others.
 
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SteveJ said:
I hadn't really considered this before reading your post, mate. I (naively) thought that he was just reckless and stupid; in reality, his whole 'irresponsible' schtick could be distraction/'intereference' while he truly concentrates on deals which benefit himself, his family and others.
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You don't get to be Donald Trump by being reckless and stupid. He is a very calculating man who most likely knows what he's doing.
 
SteveJ said:
I hadn't really considered this before reading your post, mate. I (naively) thought that he was just reckless and stupid; in reality, his whole 'irresponsible' schtick could be distraction/'interference' while he truly concentrates on deals which benefit himself, his family and others.
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I think he's reckless, and childish, but have never been sold on the stupid part. He says stupid things all of the time, but I'm certain much of that consists of intentionally stupid soundbites. It's just PR, really. I never really thought that he subscribed too much to what he put forth during the election. By which I mean, I always thought he'd move off any given issue if he thought it would benefit him. He's definitely not an idealist.

The benefits of devaluing the presidency can be seen in Trump's election. Anyone else would have had to drop out of the race for a fraction of the things Trump got away with. He's just carrying on as he started: by sensationalizing every mediocrity he can tweet about (I'd be amazed if more than 4-5% of those tweets are now his, by the way).

Anything can dominate the front pages in Trump world. Kanye West, for example. The longer that's allowed to happen, the more Trump will play into it. We have to wait and see how things go post inauguration. Presidents are usually granted a honeymoon of sorts, but I can't see Trump getting it from the left (in the same way Obama never had it from the right). It's a bit sad that Obama was denied traditional courtesy primarily because of his skin colour, whereas inciting racial tension will be a big part of why the left refuse to give it to Trump.
 
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Mciahel Goodman said:
I think he's reckless, and childish, but have never been sold on the stupid part. He says stupid things all of the time, but I'm certain much of that consists of intentionally stupid soundbites. It's just PR, really. I never really thought that he subscribed too much to what he put forth during the election. By which I mean, I always thought he'd move off any given issue if he thought it would benefit him. He's definitely not an idealist.

The benefits of devaluing the presidency can be seen in Trump's election. Anyone else would have had to drop out of the race for a fraction of the things Trump got away with. He's just carrying on as he started: by sensationalizing every mediocrity he can tweet about (I'd be amazed if more than 4-5% of those tweets are now his, by the way).

Anything can dominate the front pages in Trump world. Kanye West, for example. The longer that's allowed to happen, the more Trump will play into it. We have to wait and see how things go post inauguration. Presidents are usually granted a honeymoon of sorts, but I can't see Trump getting it from the left (in the same way Obama never had it from the right). It's a bit sad that Obama was denied traditional courtesy primarily because of his skin colour, whereas inciting racial tension will be a big part of why the left refuse to give it to Trump.
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What reason has Trump ever given you to think he's in any way intelligent? The world is full of stupid rich people and when you inherit the sort of wealth he did in the same era that he lived it's really hard not to make a lot of money. All it takes is a few clued in advisers, who will more than likely come with the inheritance.

It's tempting (and kind of comforting) to think his bluster hides a sharp mind but I haven't seen a shred of evidence to back up such a theory. I'd love to see some if it exists because it's dreadful to think he really is as thick as he comes across.
 
VorZakone said:
You don't get to be Donald Trump by being reckless and stupid. He is a very calculating man who most likely knows what he's doing.
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The notion that Donald Trump doesn't know what he's doing is just not true. He knows exactly what he's doing.
 
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