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Woodward was on nyt daily podcast yesterday and said he got a call from one of the top people in the admin and they said a"I agree everything you wrote is true but I hope you understand that my office has to put out a strong denial".
 
Santi_Mesut_Alexis_87 said:
He just considers everything a big show, something where he can show what he can do. Just fecking do your fecking job without tweeting every seconds.
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He is just so insecure that he has to give voice to any achievement and belittle any detractor.

In the absence of achievement he will happily resort to lie or misinformation.
 
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swooshboy said:
In the absence of achievement he will happily resort to lie or misinformation.
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Daniel Dale @ddale8

Donald Trump just set a dishonesty record for the third consecutive month. He made 321 false claims in August, shattering his record of 280 in July, which had beaten his record of 268 in June
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Stormy Daniels has a book coming out too, which promises full disclosure of her relationship with Trumpy Pumpy.
 
SteveJ said:
Stormy Daniels has a book coming out too, which promises full disclosure of her relationship with Trumpy Pumpy.
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It will be interesting to see how much book material she squeezes out of a 5 minute shag following a few hours of banter.
 
Trump's pillow talk about his performance should pad out 500 pages.
 
Raoul said:
It will be interesting to see how much book material she squeezes out of a 5 minute shag following a few hours of banter.
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May have seemed like 5 minutes in real time, to her it might have seemed like a lifetime.
 
I hope Melania writes the foreword.
 
What a fecking shambles. US getting some serious side eye right now...

langster said:
The USA really is starting to look more like the land of pussies than the land of the free. Everyone seems to be shit scared to call Trump on his bullshit and the giant toddler can carry on bullying everyone without reprisal because everyone is scared of his ickle tantrums. It's pathetic.
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It's like the politicians give less and less of a feck what the people think, while the people give less and less of a feck what their politicians do. Can only end well right? :wenger:
 
Raoul said:
The odds of it happening in the US are next to zero. There are too many people here who are not only content, but who overtly and proactively like the system as it is. Imbalances are easily adjudicated by greater participation in the political process.
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Why did they vote for someone who was out to destroy it then?

Regardless of ones thoughts about Trump everyone can agree that he is completely different to the politicians who have brought about the modern US (Every president since Theodor Roosevelt at least*). If everyone was that content why elect someone with the slogan "drain the swamp" ?

*I chose Theodeor Roosevelt because I know enough about him and all of his successors to comfortably say that. I'd think the same could be said about all his predecessors but am not informed enough to do so with any certainty.
 
Abizzz said:
Why did they vote for someone who was out to destroy it then?

Regardless of ones thoughts about Trump everyone can agree that he is completely different to the politicians who have brought about the modern US (Every president since Theodor Roosevelt at least*). If everyone was that content why elect someone with the slogan "drain the swamp" ?

*I chose Theodeor Roosevelt because I know enough about him and all of his successors to comfortably say that. I'd think the same could be said about all his predecessors but am not informed enough to do so with any certainty.
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You may be misinterpreting the reasons why Trump won. He simply offered mostly the same old things Republicans have run on over the years (albeit packaged in Trump's unique bombastic way). Tax cuts, more jobs, deregulation, increased GDP, the appointment of conservative judges etc. The "drain the swamp" bit is no different than previous slogan like "vote the bums out" etc. They are merely marketing slogans that are more aspirational for marketing purposes than actual tangible policies.
 
Adisa said:
The tax cut is the main culprit. The dollar has appreciated in the last 18 months , so that can't be the reason. P
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We're gunna need a US based economist in here but I'm not sure this is strictly true. Didn't the the tax bill go live on 01/01/18 and will only be applicable to financial years beginning after that date? Most of which will be paid after year end. Some will be paid up front in instalments but if that system is anything like the UK you only pay a quarter half way through the year.
 


My local newspaper had this cartoon in the paper yesterday. Sad thing is this resonates with many people here. Propaganda at its finest. pathetic
 
Raoul said:
You may be misinterpreting the reasons why Trump won. He simply offered mostly the same old things Republicans have run on over the years (albeit packaged in Trump's unique bombastic way). Tax cuts, more jobs, deregulation, increased GDP, the appointment of conservative judges etc. The "drain the swamp" bit is no different than previous slogan like "vote the bums out" etc. They are merely marketing slogans that are more aspirational for marketing purposes than actual tangible policies.
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You have a good point (that I agree with) that some of the points he won on may not have been the ones he ran on, but I still view his election as an anti establishment vote and sincerely believe his greatest achievement (and Russia's) in the campaign was to make Clinton represent the current political order and get himself viewed as an outsider (I also think his calculated craziness is a mean to this end).

Remember that debate when she said "I have a feeling at the end of this debate I will be blamed for everything that's ever happened" and he returned with "Why not?" I literally think that that is what was going on. He followed up by blaming her for something that republicans shared as much blame in as democrats did (non-repatriation of profits by US companies earned abroad). If the electorate, or even the republicans, had wanted the same old Republican politics they would have surely gone with Bush No.3 or Ted Cruz? If they had wanted more of the same in a extremer fashion Marco Rubio? Or Kasich if they had wanted a bit less of it.

I just don't believe Trump is simply another Republican, and I don't think he ever tried masquerading as one. He was very specific about some of his policies and spending billions on a useless piece of government infrastructure (the wall) isn't a republican thing to do. Neither is alienating your allies and business partners, but he never made a secret about what he was going to do trade wise. And the people voted for it.

(Please don't move this to the "What did Hilary do wrong" thread again, when I talk about his election and the reasons for it I do so because of it's implications for his presidency/the US)
 
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My local newspaper had this cartoon in the paper yesterday. Sad thing is this resonates with many people here. Propaganda at its finest. pathetic
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What's the relevance over there? Jamaica has much bigger problems tbf.
 
RedTiger said:
Take solace in the fact that pretty much most nations are going the hurr durr rightwing route.

PS, no solace, more like alarm.
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Yeh it's quite alarming that what I used to think as the sane people are now getting crazy like us. We were always racists and bigoted self serving nationalist, now everyone's doing it :lol:
 
Abizzz said:
Why did they vote for someone who was out to destroy it then?

Regardless of ones thoughts about Trump everyone can agree that he is completely different to the politicians who have brought about the modern US (Every president since Theodor Roosevelt at least*). If everyone was that content why elect someone with the slogan "drain the swamp" ?

*I chose Theodeor Roosevelt because I know enough about him and all of his successors to comfortably say that. I'd think the same could be said about all his predecessors but am not informed enough to do so with any certainty.
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I was listening to a biopic on Teddy recently and one quote stuck with me, about him being the most peculiar man to ever inhabit the White House. I thought ‘at least until now,’ when it struck me that the two men are similar. Trump is all the populism and bluster of Teddy, but completely unhinged from any hint of a moral center (and far less intelligent).

Like a weak, satanic version of Teddy, if you will.
 
swooshboy said:
He is just so insecure that he has to give voice to any achievement and belittle any detractor.

In the absence of achievement he will happily resort to lie or misinformation.
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Like someone who screams in the dark to give himself strength :lol:
 
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