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Does Trump have a point on this? Surely it can't be legal for administrative staff to actively work together against the President's agenda? Nobody voted for this person or those in cahoots with him/her, they voted for Trump.
 
Does Trump have a point on this? Surely it can't be legal for administrative staff to actively work together against the President's agenda? Nobody voted for this person or those in cahoots with him/her, they voted for Trump.

If they think he's mentally unable to carry out his duties they can go the 25th amendment route
 
If they think he's mentally unable to carry out his duties they can go the 25th amendment route

Right but they haven't, so it's extremely dodgy in a legal sense. It's a subtle coup.
 
Right but they haven't, so it's extremely dodgy in a legal sense. It's a subtle coup.

The 25th would be a subtle coup. This is just a public wake up call for Trump to get a grip. Embarrassment and paranoia are the likeliest of results.
 
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The 25th would be a subtle coup. This is just a public wake up call for Trump to get a grip. Embarrassment and paranoia are the likeliest of results.

My understanding is that the 25th functions as a completely legal, above-board means to remove an unfit President, through a long process with the necessary checks and balances. Whereas what we have here is a collection of unelected officials working secretly to basically sabotage the elected President's agenda.
 
The first part of that is true, and it only involved halving corporate tax rates by creating a trillion dollar problem for the next guy. Brilliant.

The rest is garbage. Not a thing has been agreed on any of those points, and aforementioned tax reduction is so large Trump just cut a cost of living raise for the entire federal workforce. So nice new roads and bridges are unlikely.

If you're going to post vacuous platitudes, expect corrections. There is no such thing as a post-truth world, just delusional people.

But your corrections are just lies with a little grain of truth in them from your liberal media sources that you are rehashing for us. It's a fact that unemployment is less than 4 percent. It's a fact that there hasn't been this kind of growth since the Clinton era in the 90s. I'd say that is a good start. Give him time for the rest. He has the ship pointing in the right direction at least.

Oh, and btw, it's a trillion dollar problem over 10 years (the tax thing). Here's a few other facts for you to put your complaint in the context it should be made in.

Each 1 percent increase in growth is worth close to a trillion dollars per year for the federal govt revenue - that's why they say we can grow our way out of the deficit.

Federal spending is now over $4 trillion dollars per year. Don't take my word for it though - go look at the figures yourself.

https://www.freedomworks.org/content/almost-62-percent-federal-spending-2018-baked-budgetary-cake

The largest mandatory programs are Social Security ($984 billion in 2018), Medicare ($707 billion), and Medicaid ($383 billion). Over $2 trillion a year in mandatory spending and with an aging population, this is only going to get worse. Social security will go up to $1.4 trillion within the next 10 years and Medicare will increase to $1 trillion.

So keep up the good work clamouring for higher taxes for everyone. We are going to need them to pay for all the Welfare programs. Don't get me wrong - I am not against these programs. But, the next time you hear the liberal left saying something like 'a one $trillion problem', all I ask is you be mindful of the reasons they are saying it. They don't really care about any of this - they just want to get power back so that they can continue to do nothing about the real issue that may end up crippling the U.S economy in the future.
 
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My understanding is that the 25th functions as a completely legal, above-board means to remove an unfit President, through a long process with the necessary checks and balances. Whereas what we have here is a collection of unelected officials working secretly to basically sabotage the elected President's agenda.

If the account is correct, they aren't sabotaging his agenda - they are preserving national security by preventing a mentally unstable individual from random and capricious actions.
 
If the account is correct, they aren't sabotaging his agenda - they are preserving national security by preventing a mentally unstable individual from random and capricious actions.

They are unaccountable. Trump was elected in large part because he comes across as unconventional and promised unconventional policies on issues close to the heart of his supporters. These officials are actively and secretly working to undermine his authority and ability to execute those policies.

If he is truly mentally unstable then the 25th exists for this very scenario, but for whatever reason they've chosen not to go down that path.
 
They are unaccountable. Trump was elected in large part because he comes across as unconventional and promised unconventional policies on issues close to the heart of his supporters. These officials are actively and secretly working to undermine his authority and ability to execute those policies.

If he is truly mentally unstable then the 25th exists for this very scenario, but for whatever reason they've chosen not to go down that path.

They are constitutionally accountable via the 25th amendment. This Op-ed could simply be a preamble for Trump to correct course or else be exposed to action under the 25th.
 
Sarah Sanders talking about her boss the 'traitor':
"He is not putting country first, but putting himself and his ego ahead of the will of the American people. This coward should do the right thing and resign.”
 
I can never get over how childish & spiteful her statements are. What a horrible, craven person.
 
But your corrections are just lies with a little grain of truth in them from your liberal media sources that you are rehashing for us. It's a fact that unemployment is less than 4 percent. It's a fact that there hasn't been this kind of growth since the Clinton era in the 90s. I'd say that is a good start. Give him time for the rest. He has the ship pointing in the right direction at least.

Oh, and btw, it's a trillion dollar problem over 10 years (the tax thing). Here's a few other facts for you to put your complaint in the context it should be made in.

Each 1 percent increase in growth is worth close to a trillion dollars per year for the federal govt revenue - that's why they say we can grow our way out of the deficit.

Federal spending is now over $4 trillion dollars per year. Don't take my word for it though - go look at the figures yourself.

https://www.freedomworks.org/content/almost-62-percent-federal-spending-2018-baked-budgetary-cake

The largest mandatory programs are Social Security ($984 billion in 2018), Medicare ($707 billion), and Medicaid ($383 billion). Over $2 trillion a year in mandatory spending and with an aging population, this is only going to get worse. Social security will go up to $1.4 trillion within the next 10 years and Medicare will increase to $1 trillion.

So keep up the good work clamouring for higher taxes for everyone. We are going to need them to pay for all the Welfare programs. Don't get me wrong - I am not against these programs. But, the next time you hear the liberal left saying something like 'a one $trillion problem', all I ask is you be mindful of the reasons they are saying it. They don't really care about any of this - they just want to get power back so that they can continue to do nothing about the real issue that may end up crippling the U.S economy in the future.
Appreciate the researched response, but I can't follow your logic. I'm saying giving a massive tax break is a mistake because you're decreasing government revenue. I totally agree with the burdens of healthcare and social security in lieu of the aging boomers. So if anything the government is going to be absolutely desperate for MORE tax revenues.

I think you're arguing about the multiplier effect - that each dollar given back into the economy will generate far more than that. While that's true, that's for the whole economy, I'd have to see some pretty serious maths to understand how giving massive tax breaks is going to 'pay for itself' in terms of future tax revenue. Especially as the office literally in charge of evaluating the plan (CBO) couldn't stop screaming to the rooftops how bad an idea it was. And once you've done this - particularly the corporate rate drop - you can't do it again. So when the country is in recession, you no longer have that lever to pull. Pretty much the worst time to do this was while the economy had been growing so well for so long.

Further, the great champion of this brilliant, freemarketering is none other than good old Paul Ryan. Who - given the great success of this tax plan - will of course be continuing his rise in November, with none stop cheering from supporters about the tax break. Oh what's that? He's f*cking off to work as a lobbyist for one of those who got the most out of the tax plan? Oh and the GOP have so far basically not mentioned the tax plans once in their campaigning in subsequent elections - because it's historically unpopular with their own voters? Hrm...

Finally, I genuinely used to buy some of this when I was younger. Went full John Galt for a while. But now - wealth inequality is tearing the US apart, and will one day soon become (more) violent. You look at countries with the best outcomes - education, health, happiness - they're almost uniformly what Americans would call socialist. I'm just not arrogant enough to believe that the US can't learn from those, especially given it presumably wants to still be considered a world leading country. If you want to see how Ryan economics works, go check out Kansas. The GOP put in massive tax cuts there with big promises, and now kids can't even go to school 5 days a week because they can't afford teachers.
 
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And talking of craven behaviour...that op-ed is the same: 'Please consider us heroes, as we prop up this nutjob who makes us money'. Same goes for the GOP in general.
 
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