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Woodward is a respected voice in Washington but these are strange times. Facts don't matter and reporting is not trusted, even that of the most qualified journalists.
 
If there's any chance that Trump is impeached, wouldn't the VP Mike Pence actually worse than him? I mean he might not write on twitter like a five year old but he's somehow even more conservative than Trump which is an extremely scary thing.
 
I hadn't heard the Baghdad Bob name before, I knew him as Chemical Ali

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Hassan_al-Majid
 
Woodward's Book said:
[Trump’s then-personal attorney John] Dowd and Trump’s current personal attorney Jay Sekulow went to Mueller’s office and re-enacted the mock interview. Their goal: to argue that Trump couldn’t possibly testify because he was incapable of telling the truth.

“He just made something up. That’s his nature,” Dowd said to Mueller.

So, their plea is mental incapacity? :lol:

I mean it's not surprising but still... :lol:
 
All this talk about the symbol is as embarrassing as all the conspiracy BS alt-right indulges in. I don't see anything unatural in her arm resting position. It is not out of ordinary for anyone to end up with any random hand position. Donald crowd went on and on about how Hillary and Obama were always making some illuminati secret gestures in public, don't devolve to that level of insanity.
 
Just going to use these posts as a springboard to delve a little deeper here.

Do I think Zina Bash is a card carrying member of the KKK or some white nationalist organization? Absolutely not.

Do I think that Zina Bash might intentionally throw up a subtle controversial subtle hand sign to "troll the libs"? I absolutely believe she would.

Its like Melania's intentional choice to wear that cheap jacket with the writing on the back. She has an easy out ("my grandparents were Jews in Germany of course I am not hillbilly white power") so can easily use subtle gestures. Political gesture analysis has been studied for decades. A lot of gestures of Presidents from Nixon to Reagan to Clinton were very intentional choices.

Zina is a smart (and rich) person who doesn't have to get involved in partisan politics. But she chooses to. She has an agenda. She has to. Its not some simplistic redneck white power agenda though. Its more complex. Its a gain social reputation in conservative circles by trolling liberals strategy that 4 years would have seemed juvenile. Until Trump used this strategy to get elected President of the USA. So I don't think Bash is remotely stupid enough to be trying to "secretly signal" to White Power Factions that she is one of them. I do think she is crafty, tricky and lowest common denominator style enough to be intentionally making this gesture 'subtly' to intentionally cause a "liberal sjw overreaction" to try to trap/'expose' progressive social influencers into attacking an "innocent Holocaust Descendanat" which all just proves how wacky and stupid the libs are.

An embrrassing post, you should be ashamed of yourself. Drawing up fairy tales on internet to cast aspersions over someone's character and their intention to use their background as a cover for flashing a hoax of a hate symbol. Mindbogglingly stupid.
 
Why would we care if Woodwards stuff is true or not? The one thing Trump has taught us is that it doesn't matter if something is true or not, what matters is how often and how loud something is said, and how interesting it is to the masses of idiots on Twitter and 4chan.

Trump asked Putin for supreme court nominations? I'm sure he did!
 
Surprisingly, maybe some of Trump's top people tolerate working for him - not out of self-interest - but to stop him causing World Wars Three, Four etc etc.
 
And yet, despite all this insanity, the economy is booming, unemployment rate is below 4 percent, something not seen since the Clinton era and new trade deals that favour American workers are being put in place. NAFTA is being renegotiated, plans are in place for infrastructure spending to rebuild roads and bridges. It could be worse!
 
An embrrassing post, you should be ashamed of yourself. Drawing up fairy tales on internet to cast aspersions over someone's character and their intention to use their background as a cover for flashing a hoax of a hate symbol. Mindbogglingly stupid.
The entire refutation posted by her husband was her heritage. He didn't even say that "whitepower" goes against her ethics etc. That actions speak louder then words... nothing. She works for the man the alt right desperately want on the supreme court.

I have no clue if she did it on purpose or not, but given everything that is going on in Trumps presidency it doesn't seem far fetched.
 
And yet, despite all this insanity, the economy is booming, unemployment rate is below 4 percent, something not seen since the Clinton era and new trade deals that favour American workers are being put in place. NAFTA is being renegotiated, plans are in place for infrastructure spending to rebuild roads and bridges. It could be worse!
Any details on those new trade deals? Any details on the plans for infrastructure spending? Which bridges will be refurbished? Which airport should I be looking into flying into post 2020?

Nafta "renegotiation" recently hit rock bottom, that's for sure.
 
The entire refutation posted by her husband was her heritage. He didn't even say that "whitepower" goes against her ethics etc. That actions speak louder then words... nothing. She works for the man the alt right desperately want on the supreme court.

I have no clue if she did it on purpose or not, but given everything that is going on in Trumps presidency it doesn't seem far fetched.

She works for a conservative judge who all right leaning people in US want on court. There is nothing in her background that suggests that she is any more sinister that your bog standard conservative crowd. This jump people in US have made in linking any one with conservative leaning to full on racist, evil agenda is absurd and not good for political discourse. I myself think conservatives all over the world are out of touch with reality and after their own selfish agenda but making un founded accusation based on the same in not on.
 
She works for a conservative judge who all right leaning people in US want on court. There is nothing in her background that suggests that she is any more sinister that your bog standard conservative crowd. This jump people in US have made in linking any one with conservative leaning to full on racist, evil agenda is absurd and not good for political discourse. I myself think conservatives all over the world are out of touch with reality and after their own selfish agenda but making un founded accusation based on the same in not on.

It's also exactly what those trolls on 4chan want. Make parts of the left look like complete morons by buying into their trolling and thinking it's for real, so they can point at them and say "look how dumb the left is, they buy into anything as long as it fits their agenda."
 
And yet, despite all this insanity, the economy is booming, unemployment rate is below 4 percent, something not seen since the Clinton era and new trade deals that favour American workers are being put in place. NAFTA is being renegotiated, plans are in place for infrastructure spending to rebuild roads and bridges. It could be worse!

Not really.
 
Go back a few years, and he was probably tweeting complaints that his tv show didn't win a NAFTA.
 
Many of those that voted for Trump voted for Obama. They thought at long last change was coming ,instead they got more of the same. Then the DNC chose an awful candidate ,who just reminded them of a continuation of elitism and offered nothing new .

It's a bit more complicated than that to be fair.
 
Can anyone give me a brief summary of whats been going on in trumpland in the last couple of weeks?
 
When you look at the full video its interesting. She gets a text, looks down and then immediately puts her hand in that position in an unnatural and awkward motion that looks intentional. Considering she works closely with Stephen Miller I personally don't think the gesture looks natural and unintentional.


im sorry. It all reminds me of some sort of Qanon conspiracy. She isnt even doing the sign right.
 


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I feel as this must be his most ironic tweet yet - which is saying something!

Isn’t it a shame that someone can write an article or book, totally make up stories and form a picture of a person that is literally the exact opposite of the fact, and get away with it without retribution or cost. Don’t know why Washington politicians don’t change libel laws?
 
Tweeted by the National Enquirer owner's mate.
 


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I feel as this must be his most ironic tweet yet - which is saying something!


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That’s rich coming from the guy who spent years telling the World that Obama was born in Kenya
 
Can anyone give me a brief summary of whats been going on in trumpland in the last couple of weeks?

Couple weeks? Jeez, its hard remembering everything from one day.

The most significant development I guess would be Cohen pleading guilty to illegal payments and directly implicating Trump as instructing him to do it. This alone is solid grounds for impeachment.

On the same day Manafort was found guilty on 8 counts of financial crimes, got off on 10 counts (although Jurors voted 11-1 guilty). Those will probably be re-trialled although not anytime soon as his next court appearance on him acting as a foreign agent is scheduled for this month, this one should prove very interesting.

CFO of Trump Organisation has been given immunity by prosecution. This guy oversees every transaction for every company within the group and has been there forever, used to work for Donald's dad. We can only speculate what he's given up in exchange for immunity but should be juicy.

Owner of National Enquirer has also turned against Trump and been given immunity. This guy has a history of buying up damaging Trump stories under exclusivity deals so he can bury them and nobody else can publish them.

On the trade front he's been trying to re-shape NAFTA to something he can put his own name against and set the propaganda machine to work that its a good thing. Don't think there's anything likely to come of it except soured relations. He was sent packing by the EU after forcing a negotiation with his tariffs, probably will be same result with mexico/canada.
 
And yet, despite all this insanity, the economy is booming, unemployment rate is below 4 percent, something not seen since the Clinton era and new trade deals that favour American workers are being put in place. NAFTA is being renegotiated, plans are in place for infrastructure spending to rebuild roads and bridges. It could be worse!

The first part of that is true, and it only involved halving corporate tax rates by creating a trillion dollar problem for the next guy. Brilliant.

The rest is garbage. Not a thing has been agreed on any of those points, and aforementioned tax reduction is so large Trump just cut a cost of living raise for the entire federal workforce. So nice new roads and bridges are unlikely.

If you're going to post vacuous platitudes, expect corrections. There is no such thing as a post-truth world, just delusional people.
 
He'd think the crayons are missiles.
 
That secret handsign stuff is fecking pathetic, she's just scratching her arm. Why would anyone make a secret white power sign on that stage.
 
That secret handsign stuff is fecking pathetic, she's just scratching her arm. Why would anyone make a secret white power sign on that stage.
:lol: That's just about as daft as making a secret sign! Where in the video is she making a scratching movement? Is that how you scratch your arm by putting your finger tip to your thumb and rest it on the top of your arm?
 
:lol: That's just about as daft as making a secret sign! Where in the video is she making a scratching movement? Is that how you scratch your arm by putting your finger tip to your thumb and rest it on the top of your arm?
When she puts her hand there it looks kinda scratchy. It actually reminds me of Wim Kieft until a few years ago as a pundit. To be fair to Kieft it was probably down to being fidgety due to a cocaine problem, but it doesn't really look like she's flashing something into the camera to me.

Just for some context, I know nothing about this woman, but it didn't look like anything to me. It all sounds a bit farfetched and Qanon-like to me.

Meh watching the close up it does look kind of suspect. Damnit, stupid internet is making me doubt my sanity again.
 
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