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It would probably be trump or Bush.

My original reference was about locally in the United States . As I felt that's where its relevant
I think Trump isnt the most dissaproved President as he has quite some support, but as for actual hatred, I think he’s up there. He is an extremely polarizing figure.
 
I think that's a bit harsh on 43, to be honest. That said, he was MUCH sharper during the 2000 campaign than during his final years as POTUS - the decline was quite noticable.

I remember being shocked and worried after seeing this around the mid-2000s:

 
I guess November will be the indicator on how hated he is. If the Democrats take the House and keep it very close in the Senate Trump is fecked. When Mueller gets around to the meat of his investigation i cant see Murkowski, Collins or Manchin doing any of this administration's dirty work.
This week has shown that trump is in Putin's pocket, absolutely no doubt in my mind. Mueller will take him down in many ways and dont forget his phoney charity and paying off women to keep quiet right before the election. These are serious situations on the horizon for trump and his fragile state of mind.
This would all be happening now if it wasnt for the GOP who in my opinion are the most dangerous group of cnuts in the country. I do wish that rupert Murdoch would just die already so fox news can be broken up and sent back to AM radio. That would help this country a lot.
Also, feck trump supporters crowing over a 70,000 electoral win. 49% of the electorate didn't turn up while the holier than thou snowflakes decided that Stein or Johnson are deserving of their vote without knowing anything about them. Next time will most certainly different. If this guy does get elected you can say good bye to western democracy in the States. I think people are starting to realize this plus he wont get the free and easy coverage off the media this time which will be detrimental to his campaign
 
They both are bumbling idiots. just because trump speaks crass let's not make that change the fact that Bush 43 was hugely a hugely unpopular war monger who also couldn't speak in complete sentences

What was that Bush quote that J Cole used in one of his songs?
 
I think Trump isnt the most dissaproved President as he has quite some support, but as for actual hatred, I think he’s up there. He is an extremely polarizing figure.

Trump is pretty much the least popular president at this point in his term in modern history (since WW2). Or at least he was in January according to FiveThirtyEight. His approval rating has gone up a couple of percent since then, but unless someone else's approval rating dropped heavily in the same span, he is easily the most unpopular president so far.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-year-in-trumps-approval-rating/

Of course, Bush managed to become pretty unpopular by the end, but let's give Trump some more time. I'm sure he'll get there. Hopefully he doesn't get 8 years like Dubya did, though.
 
Trump is pretty much the least popular president at this point in his term in modern history (since WW2). Or at least he was in January according to FiveThirtyEight. His approval rating has gone up a couple of percent since then, but unless someone else's approval rating dropped heavily in the same span, he is easily the most unpopular president so far.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-year-in-trumps-approval-rating/
I see. Thing is for me as an unlooker it’s hard to know which are the correct polling numbers since there’s so many different ones in th US all giving different numbers.

I’d like to think the overly conservative Trump favoring ones are fake, but I have no way of checking it.

Trump’s a fecking cnut though, that’s one thing Im sure of.
 
I see. Thing is for me as an unlooker it’s hard to know which are the correct polling numbers since there’s so many different ones in th US all giving different numbers.

I’d like to think the overly conservative Trump favoring ones are fake, but I have no way of checking it.

Trump’s a fecking cnut though, that’s one thing Im sure of.

FiveThirtyEight doesn't run their own polls, they rate pollsters and aggregate them (and interpret and discuss, but that is separate from the polling data). There are definitely some good pollsters and some bad pollsters, and some of the really bad ones are a lot more favourable to Trump.
 
bush had a 22 percent apporval rating at one point.
Trumps aproval rating is 41 percent nationally and among republicans its nearly 90 percent. So he is hardly hated
Trump is hated by much more of the world than Bush ever was.
 
I was just going to add that. My brother and I were talking yesterday and we couldn't come up with a better President than Obama IOLT. I will give that we are Europeans so America might think differently but that was our view of it.

its possible for obama to be the best president in decades and also be a failure
 
I was just going to add that. My brother and I were talking yesterday and we couldn't come up with a better President than Obama IOLT. I will give that we are Europeans so America might think differently but that was our view of it.
As far as the rest of the world goes he was indeed a rock star. And the current embarrassment is the exact diametrical opposite.
 
I was just going to add that. My brother and I were talking yesterday and we couldn't come up with a better President than Obama IOLT. I will give that we are Europeans so America might think differently but that was our view of it.
Apart from being eloquent and a respectable statesman, did Obama really accomplish a lot? I mean, I love the guy, but he bombed the feck out of a lot of countries and tried and failed to implement a better health care system. Though Im obviously a European too and cant judge it that well.
 
Apart from being eloquent and a respectable statesman, did Obama really accomplish a lot? I mean, I love the guy, but he bombed the feck out of a lot of countries and tried and failed to implement a better health care system. Though Im obviously a European too and cant judge it that well.

Correct. And his failure to materially change the lives of most of this country led to the backlash that enabled trump to get elected.
 
Apart from being eloquent and a respectable statesman, did Obama really accomplish a lot? I mean, I love the guy, but he bombed the feck out of a lot of countries and tried and failed to implement a better health care system. Though Im obviously a European too and cant judge it that well.

The change in healthcare system was actually his biggest achievement. There were people with pre-existing conditions who could finally afford to receive healthcare. You underestimate the monumental effort it took to even nudge the US towards a single player health system. Ofcourse if he rammed through enough legislation like GOP did with the tax cuts, he could have gotten more done and GOP would have thoroughly dismantled them as soon as they got into power.

His foreign policy was an utter mess though.
 

That doesn't really support your assertion. Trump is no doubt disliked around the world, but not necessarily more than Bush was at the end of his term.

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That doesn't really support your assertion. Trump is no doubt disliked around the world, but not necessarily more than Bush was at the end of his term.

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Apparently “more respected than ever” really means that our standing in the world is as low as it was when we invaded Iraq. Swell... just swell.
 
It's not popular
It’s currently more popular that it’s ever been.
A new tracking poll from the Kaiser Family Foundation finds the highest ever public approval rating for the Affordable Care Act since the organization began asking the question in 2010. According to the survey, 54 percent of the public view the embattled law favorably, while 42 percent hold an unfavorable view. The major shift in public approval for the ACA since Trump took office and set about chipping away at the law has mostly been driven by independents, 55 percent of whom currently approve of Obamacare.
 
What directly led to this was the atrocious selection of Hillary Clinton as a presidential candidate. Obama's approval rating near the end of his term was in the high fifties. Hardly unpopular.
 
That doesn't really support your assertion. Trump is no doubt disliked around the world, but not necessarily more than Bush was at the end of his term.

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Add the fact he started a trade war with China, screwed Japan when he dropped out of the TPP, it’s easy to see he is much more hated than GW Bush.
 
Also worth noting that GW Bush was President during the most testing time in the US in modern times with 9/11 and all.

Imagine Trump's reaction to 9/11. You probably wouldn't be able to find the Middle-East on Google maps anymore, well except Saudi-Arabia of course.
 
Also worth noting that GW Bush was President during the most testing time in the US in modern times with 9/11 and all.

Imagine Trump's reaction to 9/11. You probably wouldn't be able to find the Middle-East on Google maps anymore, well except Saudi-Arabia of course.

I'm just glad twitter wasn't around back then.
 
Add the fact he started a trade war with China, screwed Japan when he dropped out of the TPP, it’s easy to see he is much more hated than GW Bush.

The stats are from spring 2017. I could imagine after getting out of the climate agreement, his trade war etc. his is more unpopular today but could not find a similar grafic for today.
 
Also worth noting that GW Bush was President during the most testing time in the US in modern times with 9/11 and all.

Imagine Trump's reaction to 9/11. You probably wouldn't be able to find the Middle-East on Google maps anymore, well except Saudi-Arabia of course.
He probably wouldn't have went into Iraq for one.
 
As things stand Bush is easily the worst US President in the post-WW2 era. Don't see how anyone can actually argue with that at all.
 
That doesn't really support your assertion. Trump is no doubt disliked around the world, but not necessarily more than Bush was at the end of his term.

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And this is what I've been trying to remind people. Bush was a shambles of a president. This should never be forgotten.
 
Also worth noting that GW Bush was President during the most testing time in the US in modern times with 9/11 and all.

Imagine Trump's reaction to 9/11. You probably wouldn't be able to find the Middle-East on Google maps anymore, well except Saudi-Arabia of course.

Aye, the irony would be lost too.
 


Bwaaahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa! Somebody's shitting their self. :lol:


This is incredibly dangerous. He should be banned from Twitter. Denying the facts to try and sway public opinion.

Executing a warrant = illegal search
Common practice = totally unheard of
Legal activity = probably illegal
Inconceivable acts by the government = ignores that he is the government & absolves himself of any responsibility
 
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