The Trump Presidency | Biden Inaugurated
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Conveniently ignored the first two bullet points, huh?
Also, you seem to have a problem realizing that I didn’t say we had gotten back to pre-recession levels of wealth by the end of the Obama presidency. I said the Great Recession had ended. That’s a fact.
We weren’t back to pre-Depression levels of wealth in 1945 either, but the Great Depression was over.
If it is the Showtime four part series about the NYT during Trump's first year, all four episodes can be found on Amazon Prime.
You are the one who created a hyper focus on the idea of a recession. Im not interested in debate class where we trick each other and then say gotcha!
Salford said that Obama didnt deliver and that is broadly true. You can chalk it up to obstructionism and incrementalism or even lack of desire to reform the financial system in this country but the fact is that people were worse off than they remembered being a short time ago and yet the democratic party was lying to them and telling them that things are already great.
In my opinion, that's a more interesting discussion to have than digging through your posts or my posts for a misunderstanding of a term or a sloppily made point. If that's your sort of thing though, can I recommend the religion thread?
How much of the reduction of wealth for segments of the US middle class is a result of a fundamental and structural change in the economy (dying industries being replaced by new ones because of the world's digitization) vs a hangover from the 2008 recession? The structural economic change seems to have accelerated since recession and this could negatively impact groups less equipped for that type of change.
I think it's a combination of both.
Umm... it isn’t a trick. I said the recession ended. You then went on a tangent about people's wealth not being at pre-recession levels by 2016. Well... duh.
That doesn’t have anything to do with the recession being over though... It isn’t a “gotcha”. It’s a “you went off on a tangent not related to my point and got called on it”.
1. What he said also isn’t true. The Recession ended under Obama’s administration. The fact that people’s wealth didn’t recover to pre-recession levels is down to just how bad the recession was. Again, it took longer than FDR’s presidency for people’s wealth to fully recover from the Depression... but the Depression was over.
2. Of course you find it more “interesting”, after you’ve been called out on making an argument that isn’t even related to what I said.
Again with the tedious point scoring.
What he said is true though. Obama promised people things and didnt deliver. And then Hillary Clinton lied to people and said things were already great when all they had to do was look around to know they weren't.
That’s rich, especially from you. It isn’t my fault you made a poor argument.
He said he’d end the recession. That’s what he did.
Hillary said what she did because she knew Trump meant some serious xenophobic shit when he said “make America great again”. She was right too.
Its weird that you think of this thread as a place to "call people out" instead of just a place for people to discuss politics. This isnt school, the teacher isnt going to give you a gold star for employing Robert's rules.
how did that work out for her?She told the american people things were great when they absolutely were not.
I’m not going to let it slip when you attempt to make a counter argument against mine that is completely on another tangent from what I said.
Also, I don’t need a gold star from a teacher. I am one.
You tell me. You’re the one who didn’t vote for her in a state that barely swung to Trump.
I'm losing the will to live reading this. It's tedious enough without you going back to this for the second time tonight.
I dont make arguments for or against people. I post what I think on topics I find interesting. Sometimes that may be similar for your thoughts sometimes it may not. I'm sorry if you felt I was personally attacking you. I just found it an interesting point to reply to. Let's try to make this a bit less personal eh?
Nobody made you read it.
Okay. The data posted doesn’t reflect the fact that the economy overall recovered from the recession during the Obama administration.
Impersonal enough?
He's so emboldened with his name calling. Seems anxious about the FBI and Mueller.
"Total transparency" except when it comes to tax returns and Russia, of course...
Threatening to investigate his political opponents again. Suggests he is in near meltdown mode once again.
Pray tell how she could campaign against herself?
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Well, no, but given I have very little else to do and you both have the capacity to be interesting when you want to be I might as well keep checking in and hoping things improve.
He's really fond of the 13 angry democrats thing. I've never seen it elsewhere. Usually I see his silly phrases turning up everywhere but unless I'm just looking in the wrong places he doesn't seem to be 'making fetch happen' on this one.
This guy gets thru more tweets in a week than I have since the inception of my Twitter accounts.
She was a part of the Obama administration and used his support while campaigning. She couldn't campaign and agree with Trump that the country was awful.
What happened to yesterday's 'I try not to get involved with the investigation' stuff? Laughable from Trump.
Those weren't the only two options. Plus it's not like what she did worked particularly well.
Yes, agreed. And I think he would only get to that state if he believes Mueller and the investigation has something definitive and prosecutable on him or his family. He is not in control and he cannot stand it.
Yeah i was wondering about that. Perhaps it's a play on 12 Angry Men, trying to plant in people's minds that he is a victim of a miscarriage of justice (the "witch huht").
He never said that, and you can’t prove it Steve... and if you can then I don’t care for facts anyway.
Not to go back to the Sarah Sanders thing again but just saw this comment in a Reddit thread talking about a bar in Chicago banning MAGA hats and thought it was yet again indicative of the hypocrisy of the repubs:
When the snowflakes on the right start losing their minds about this, remind them that in 2012 a bakery refused to serve Joe Biden because he worked for Obama. The baker was celebrated by the right. They made him a hero for it. He got rich selling "Freedom Cookies."
It gets better. Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney took him on the campaign trail and brought him up on stage to congratulate him for kicking the Vice President out of his bakery.
Now, a few years later, Trump and his GOP are pretending like Sanders received ill treatment without precedent. Most have forgotten the incident because Joe Biden didn't act like Trump and cry like a little bitch.
https://www.roanoke.com/webmin/news...cle_806b06ac-b68b-58ca-be58-5a46a0461bb5.html
When the snowflakes on the right start losing their minds about this, remind them that in 2012 a bakery refused to serve Joe Biden because he worked for Obama. The baker was celebrated by the right. They made him a hero for it. He got rich selling "Freedom Cookies."
It gets better. Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney took him on the campaign trail and brought him up on stage to congratulate him for kicking the Vice President out of his bakery.
Now, a few years later, Trump and his GOP are pretending like Sanders received ill treatment without precedent. Most have forgotten the incident because Joe Biden didn't act like Trump and cry like a little bitch.
https://www.roanoke.com/webmin/news...cle_806b06ac-b68b-58ca-be58-5a46a0461bb5.html
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--McMurray said that “convictions about my faith” factored into his decision not to host Biden. On a wall at the back of the bakery is painted this slogan, “Family: One of God’s masterpieces.”--
Da'fuq?
--McMurray said that “convictions about my faith” factored into his decision not to host Biden. On a wall at the back of the bakery is painted this slogan, “Family: One of God’s masterpieces.”--
Da'fuq?
Didn't Bernie Sanders also say that America is already great and there's no need to make it great again?
i dont know you tell me
Thought you'd consider all that when you voted for Harambe.
i dont keep track of everything he says. if you want to post a link go ahead
That was your dear leader Hillary. She said this countless times during her miserable campaign.
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