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Someone wealthy like Bezos should tell Stormy Daniels he will repay the $130,000 and take care of any legal stuff Trumps lawyer try and throw at her.
She's liable for a million dollars if she violates the agreement . Surely one of the Democrat donators could foot that bill :lol:
 
Without seeing the specifics of the agreement I doubt she is liable for anything more than returning the $130,000 she was paid.
Well I have seen it and I'm telling you she will have to pay up to a million for each violation plus the 130k. So unlike you I have no doubt

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Its all pretty moot now. The entire ppipo on a settlement NDA is to make sure its never talked about. Its all over media and its obvioys Trump was a naighty boy.

Only thing in question now is will she be able to spill the beans all over media.
 
I listened to some 25min of that podcast someone posted earlier when going for a run and they said that it's got nothing to do with an NDA but it's a compromise settlement. Now my mind still struggles to stay on topic when running, so I might not have grapsed everything in great detail (podcast is some 65mins anyway) but the way I understood it it's an agreement that states that Daniels (forgot her real name) shall not make public some texts and photos and possibly other intangible stuff. This shit apparently happened some eleven days before the election.

So what happened now is that Daniels filed a lawsuit in which she basically asks the court whether or not that settlement is legally binding. To answer that question the court will have to ask Donald Trump whether or not he agreed to the settlement. If he declines then it's not binding and Daniels is free to release the material. If he says he is a party in that settlement it's essentially a violation of various laws (election laws). Again I'd encourage everyone interested to listen to that podcast rather than my post. I will try to finish it tomorrow.

Here is the link: https://openargs.com/oa154-stormy-daniels-is-a-legal-genius/ (all credit to the guy who posted it earlier).
 
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I listened to some 25min of that podcast someone posted earlier when going for a run earlier and they said that it's got nothing to do with an NDA but it's a compromise settlement. Now my mind still struggles to stay on topic when running, so I might not have grapsed everything in great detail (podcast is some 65mins anyway) but the way I understood it it's an agreement that states that Daniels (forgot her real name) shall not make public some texts and photos and possibly other intangible stuff. This shit apparently happened some eleven days before the election.

So what happened now is that Daniels filed a lawsuit in which she basically asks the court whether or not that settlement is legally binding. To answer that question the court will have to ask Donald Trump whether or not he agreed to the settlement. If he declines then it's not binding and Daniels is free to release the material. If he says he is a party in that settlement it's essentially a violation of various laws (election laws). Again I'd encourage everyone interested to listen to that podcast rather than my post. I will try to finish it tomorrow.

Here is the link: https://openargs.com/oa154-stormy-daniels-is-a-legal-genius/ (all credit to the guy who posted it earlier).
Yea I had a listen while training too :lol:
You summed it up well enough but I can't help but feel nothing happens again. Let's see....
 
Why did she let herself get silenced for such a low figure? This was worth 7 figures at least.

Yeah it's strange, you'd think with Trump's baby hands she'd definitely have held out for 7 fingers.
 
I listened to some 25min of that podcast someone posted earlier when going for a run and they said that it's got nothing to do with an NDA but it's a compromise settlement. Now my mind still struggles to stay on topic when running, so I might not have grapsed everything in great detail (podcast is some 65mins anyway) but the way I understood it it's an agreement that states that Daniels (forgot her real name) shall not make public some texts and photos and possibly other intangible stuff. This shit apparently happened some eleven days before the election.

So what happened now is that Daniels filed a lawsuit in which she basically asks the court whether or not that settlement is legally binding. To answer that question the court will have to ask Donald Trump whether or not he agreed to the settlement. If he declines then it's not binding and Daniels is free to release the material. If he says he is a party in that settlement it's essentially a violation of various laws (election laws). Again I'd encourage everyone interested to listen to that podcast rather than my post. I will try to finish it tomorrow.

Here is the link: https://openargs.com/oa154-stormy-daniels-is-a-legal-genius/ (all credit to the guy who posted it earlier).
fecking hell im half way through and laughing my ass off. To hell with russia investigation this is WAAAAAAAAAAAAYY more interesting and much easier to prove and have the president indicted over. There is more to this than just campainge finance laws. The whole premise of this is breaking the law, its magical
 
fecking hell im half way through and laughing my ass off. To hell with russia investigation this is WAAAAAAAAAAAAYY more interesting and much easier to prove and have the president indicted over. There is more to this than just campainge finance laws. The whole premise of this is breaking the law, its magical

It's got echos of Monica Lewinsky about it. I wonder if the GOP will be as rabid about chasing Donald as they were about Bill?
 
It's got echos of Monica Lewinsky about it. I wonder if the GOP will be as rabid about chasing Donald as they were about Bill?
Monica lewinsky wasnt given hush money. Bill never sent his lawyer to create illegal LLC's and break a half dozen state and fed laws in the process. This is waaayyy worse than Monica :lol: . Trump wishes this was just about a blow job and telling lies under oath :lol:
 
Monica lewinsky wasnt given hush money. Bill never sent his lawyer to create illegal LLC's and break a half dozen state and fed laws in the process. This is waaayyy worse than Monica :lol: . Trump wishes this was just about a blow job and telling lies under oath :lol:

Indeed, I'm just remarking on the similarities of the President breaking laws to keep a sexual affair a secret. Bill's may have been "worse" in a way in that the actual act happened as President, in the White House. Donald's cover up is far far worse though and considering it's not the affairs are the illegal bit, it makes Donald's far worse, as you said.
 
Indeed, I'm just remarking on the similarities of the President breaking laws to keep a sexual affair a secret. Bill's may have been "worse" in a way in that the actual act happened as President, in the White House. Donald's cover up is far far worse though and considering it's not the affairs are the illegal bit, it makes Donald's far worse, as you said.

i agree completely. But then we could also say even though the affair happened outside of him being president the cover up is happening DURING it :lol: and this over up seems to be WORSE in a legal stand point. Its as impeachable as you can get.
 
Monica lewinsky wasnt given hush money. Bill never sent his lawyer to create illegal LLC's and break a half dozen state and fed laws in the process. This is waaayyy worse than Monica :lol: . Trump wishes this was just about a blow job and telling lies under oath :lol:

Technically so far
Trump did not give hush money - this was given by cohen and he has stated trump was unaware and has not reimbursed him
Trump did not get Cohen to create an illegal LLC - technically its not yet proved illegal but Cohen has said he acted without the knowledge of trump or the company
so technically Trump has so far done noting illegal (or at least cant be proven to)
Clinton did provably lie under oath
So at the moment id still sat monica was waaayyy worse and has left a far bigger stain on bill (so to speak) than stormy has left on DD

If cohen changes his story it may well turn out worse for trump but for now I dont think its a major issue and he will nodoubt tweet up a shit storm about something else (NK nukes for example)
 
Putting all jesting aside, is there a realistic chance that this will land Trump in some serious shit?
 
Technically so far
Trump did not give hush money - this was given by cohen and he has stated trump was unaware and has not reimbursed him
Trump did not get Cohen to create an illegal LLC - technically its not yet proved illegal but Cohen has said he acted without the knowledge of trump or the company
so technically Trump has so far done noting illegal (or at least cant be proven to)
Clinton did provably lie under oath
So at the moment id still sat monica was waaayyy worse and has left a far bigger stain on bill (so to speak) than stormy has left on DD

All the "technically" points are easily dismissed beyond any reasonable doubt with the use of basic logic due to the information we have from the legal documents released.

"Technically, Trump hasn't been officially investigated for it" is just about where that argument starts and finishes.
 
Putting all jesting aside, is there a realistic chance that this will land Trump in some serious shit?
My educated guess: Not until democrats manage to get the majority in either senate or the house. Even then i'm not quite sure it would.
 
All the "technically" points are easily dismissed beyond any reasonable doubt with the use of basic logic due to the information we have from the legal documents released.

"Technically, Trump hasn't been officially investigated for it" is just about where that argument starts and finishes.

technically is pretty important legally speaking though

so far the only presidents impeached are

Andrew Johnson in 1868
and Clinton in 1998

I dont see this going that far for Trump (though russia or some other dodgy deal might)
 
technically is pretty important legally speaking though

so far the only presidents impeached are

Andrew Johnson in 1868
and Clinton in 1998

I dont see this going that far for Trump (though russia or some other dodgy deal might)

Whole point with Clinton was that he didn't get impeached mate.
Same for Johnson, technically. Only the House voted to impeach them, but was in both cases denied by the senate.
 
Whole point with Clinton was that he didn't get impeached mate.
Same for Johnson, technically. Only the House voted to impeach them, but was in both cases denied by the senate.
impeached and acquitted - as i say i don't think this will even go that far for trump...
he will probably even spin it about him being billy big balls as not only is Melania hotter than crooked Hillary he even "allegedly" bangs porn stars on the side whilst cCinton had to make do with a chubby intern
his base will lap it up - he will get 4 more years - he will abolish term limits and all hail emperor trump and his heiress empress ivanka
 
technically is pretty important legally speaking though

so far the only presidents impeached are

Andrew Johnson in 1868
and Clinton in 1998

I dont see this going that far for Trump (though russia or some other dodgy deal might)

Legally, sure. We're not in a court of Law though and I can't speak for @ChaddyP but I was under the impression we were using our own judgement rather than assessing the actual legal trouble of both situations (which is technically none for Trump right now as he's not under investigation for it yet).

As far as own judgement goes, Cohen was Trump's lawyer.

How many Lawyers do you know pay for their client's settlements out of their own pocket? I've got a strong suspicion that Cohen has come out with this because there was a mystery payment of $130,000 out of the Trump Campaign coffers around the same time which would have been completely illegal.
 
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