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But why put a gate in it, a gate is for letting people through, isn't that what we don't want under a Trump dictatorship?
I thought it was a joke about people leaving voluntarily after he won the election.
 
Elaine Chao to be Transportation Secretary

Who is she?

- Labor Secretary under Dubya for 8 years
- Her family is LOADED
- She is married to a frog

that frog being Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell

She might be a NAZI

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To be honest, I actually expect things like this now. I expect him to have said the opposite before and to totally contradict himself. He's such a fecking moron. Probably one of the dumbest (yet luckiest) people on the planet.
 
Think it's fake, which is stupid. There's enough stupidity coming from this guy where you don't have to invent stuff...
 
Think it's fake, which is stupid. There's enough stupidity coming from this guy where you don't have to invent stuff...

Exactly, although he could have deleted it. But! If it is fake, then it's stupid because it will only take credibility away from the real tweets he or his team delete when they realise he's saying something that contradicts a previous view. Don't give the idiot anymore power than he already has.
 
Exactly, although he could have deleted it. But! If it is fake, then it's stupid because it will only take credibility away from the real tweets he or his team delete when they realise he's saying something that contradicts a previous view. Don't give the idiot anymore power than he already has.

What credibility? Do people STILL think what he says matters?

the 62mil who voted for him simply do not care what he says or does. In 4 years time he could contradict EVERYTHING he said leading up to this election and they wouldn't care.

It took me a long time to come to terms with this - but, it's a fact.
 
Yea I tend to agree, the lengths people go to explain away or justify his nonsense is proof enough they don't particularly care what he actually says. It's about defending their leader/side, no matter what they are defending.
 
Of course it doesn't matter what he says to a certain extent, and to a large percentage of his supporters. But there is no need to help aid his cause anymore than it has already been. Not all of his supporters are blind and stupid and the more he backtracks on his original plans, the selling points he won the election with, the more people he will upset.

Those that backed him through gritted teeth will be the first to leave, then the women who thought he would change, followed by The ones who just voted against Hillary, then smarter ones who are Republican at heart and wanted change will go too, then the poor workers he doesn't give back jobs to, then finally all he will be left with is the deluded angry hate filled mob who hang off his every word. The tide will turn, it's just a matter of how quickly and when and then how much, but "I told you so" isn't the way and not what these people will want to hear, they will want a strong leader who again connects with them and that they can believe in. The Dems have 4 years to sort that out and in the meantime, everyone should be doing their utmost to call the President elect out on everything he does or says wrong. The press should continue to treat him like they are, as its clearly working, he hates it, and the more negative they go, the more he fecks up and the more followers he loses the quicker this sham will come to an end.

If he starts doing his rallies again because he just loves the adulation and buzz of smoke being blown up his arse, watch how quickly that stops as soon as the crowds turn on him for going back on promises like the wall and deporting millions, or locking Hillary up, or promising impossible job numbers. Just you watch, I bet he turns on them and starts insulting them and as soon as he does that, well then his supporters will leave him in droves.
 
Yea I tend to agree, the lengths people go to explain away or justify his nonsense is proof enough they don't particularly care what he actually says. It's about defending their leader/side, no matter what they are defending.

Another of the reasons I don't understand why so many are confident his voters will turn out on him when he doesn't deliver what they expect. He'll easily keep them on his side by doing just what he has done until now. Saying bullshit.
 
Has "loss of citizenship" ever been used as a punishment for anything, ever before?

Or is he just making shit up as he goes along? (i.e. starting as he intends to continue)

Trop v. Dulles, 356 U.S. 86 (1958), was a federal case in the United States in which the Supreme Court ruled, 5–4, that it was unconstitutional for the governmentto revoke the citizenship of a U.S. citizen as a punishment.

So it used to be.

Further, it was a very narrow decision by a very liberal court.
In the decision, written by Chief Justice Earl Warren, the Court cited Perez v. Brownell, the Court had held that citizenship could be divested in the exercise of the foreign affairs power. However, "denationalization as a punishment is barred by the Eighth Amendment," describing it as "a form of punishment more primitive than torture" as it inflicts the "total destruction of the individual's status in organized society."

Dissenting, Justice Felix Frankfurter noted that desertion from the military can be punished by the death penalty, leading him to ask, "Is constitutional dialectic so empty of reason that it can be seriously urged that loss of citizenship is a fate worse than death?"

Edit: Worth noting that a few years later some of the judges in the majority here did vote to repeal the death penalty in Furman v Georgia.
 
Elaine Chao to be Transportation Secretary

Who is she?

- Labor Secretary under Dubya for 8 years
- Her family is LOADED
- She is married to a frog

that frog being Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell
Turtle :nono:
 
Of course it doesn't matter what he says to a certain extent, and to a large percentage of his supporters. But there is no need to help aid his cause anymore than it has already been. Not all of his supporters are blind and stupid and the more he backtracks on his original plans, the selling points he won the election with, the more people he will upset.

Those that backed him through gritted teeth will be the first to leave, then the women who thought he would change, followed by The ones who just voted against Hillary, then smarter ones who are Republican at heart and wanted change will go too, then the poor workers he doesn't give back jobs to, then finally all he will be left with is the deluded angry hate filled mob who hang off his every word. The tide will turn, it's just a matter of how quickly and when and then how much, but "I told you so" isn't the way and not what these people will want to hear, they will want a strong leader who again connects with them and that they can believe in. The Dems have 4 years to sort that out and in the meantime, everyone should be doing their utmost to call the President elect out on everything he does or says wrong. The press should continue to treat him like they are, as its clearly working, he hates it, and the more negative they go, the more he fecks up and the more followers he loses the quicker this sham will come to an end.

If he starts doing his rallies again because he just loves the adulation and buzz of smoke being blown up his arse, watch how quickly that stops as soon as the crowds turn on him for going back on promises like the wall and deporting millions, or locking Hillary up, or promising impossible job numbers. Just you watch, I bet he turns on them and starts insulting them and as soon as he does that, well then his supporters will leave him in droves.


This is indeed one of the dangers of all "populist" movements. If one doesnt do what you want, maybe you'll go for something more radical. And this is relevant for both left and right wing movements, I think.
 
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Very interesting case. As the dissenting judge states, is that a punishment worse than death. On the flip side is desertion worse than murder(s)? Personally I think it's unconstitutional.

In India Art 19a is "No person may be deprived of life or liberty except according to a procedure established by law" which provides the grounds for the death penalty, and its repeal by a legislature but not necessarily courts. I'm not an expert but I don't think there's anything about depriving someone of citizenship.

Besides in this case, SCOTUS has ruled that flag-burning is protected free speech, so any punishment let alone loss of citizenship is illegal.
 
Elaine Chao to be Transportation Secretary

Who is she?

- Labor Secretary under Dubya for 8 years
- Her family is LOADED
- She is married to a frog

that frog being Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell
Wasn't one of her fathers ships found to have hundreds of millions of dollars worth of cocaine aboard?
 
Just seen his tweet about flag burning. As much as I try and understand other people's perspective or views, I'm struggling with this one. His term will be interesting that's for sure, just glad I'm looking in from the outside.
 
Drumpf and Romney having dinner (along with Priebus) this evening. Sounds like he may go with Mitt, which should enrage his Maga muppets.
 
Drumpf and Romney having dinner (along with Priebus) this evening. Sounds like he may go with Mitt, which should enrage his Maga muppets.

It's bad times when I'm becoming more and more pleased with the prospect of Romney.:lol:
 
Selling out already.

Making comments about how the job is 'bigger than he thought.'

By christ just when you thought you couldn't have any less faith in this absolute moron he takes it to the next level.
 
Drumpf and Romney having dinner (along with Priebus) this evening. Sounds like he may go with Mitt, which should enrage his Maga muppets.

Price looks like the only Republican who had an idea about what will replace Obamacare.
They sound extreme and everything the Dems will hate.
Yet. Trump is not one to abdicate. He dictates. So what he will direct what he wants.
Same thing with Mitt, if he does go with him.
Though he may well surprise everyone with SoS.
 
Just seen his tweet about flag burning. As much as I try and understand other people's perspective or views, I'm struggling with this one. His term will be interesting that's for sure, just glad I'm looking in from the outside.

The 1st Amendment is un-American, don't cha know?!
 
Donald Trump Campaigned on Protecting Medicare, But His Health Secretary Pick Wants to Privatize It
A little more than a week after the election, Trump’s pick for HHS secretary, Georgia Republican Congressman Tom Price, who now helms the House Budget Committee, told the press that he expected the House to push for Medicare privatization “within the first six to eight months” of the Trump administration — possibly by using the budget reconciliation process, which would allow the Senate to pass such a plan with a simple majority that could not be filibustered.

Trump’s Showdown With Manufacturer Exposes Obama’s Weakness on Outsourcing
In fact, every tool Trump could possibly use to persuade Carrier to keep operations in Indiana has been available to Obama since the day of the company’s announcement. He has just chosen not to use them.

For example, Carrier is a subsidiary of United Technologies, an aerospace and defense firm and one of the 10 biggest federal contractors as of 2014. The company had $56 billion in revenues last year, and over 10 percent came from the U.S. military.

Obama could have used those lucrative contracts as a condition of maintaining the Carrier plant, just as Trump is now being urged to do by Sen. Bernie Sanders. “I call on Mr. Trump to make it clear to the CEO of United Technologies that if his firm wants to receive another defense contract from the taxpayers of this country, it must not move these plants to Mexico,” Sanders said in a statement last week.

It’s precisely the kind of hardball Obama has consistently played with federal contractors in other contexts. He has signed executive orders to raise the minimum wage for federal contract workers to $10.10 an hour, ensure paid sick leave, and promote from within the company. He also signed an order to make companies ineligible for federal contracts if they violated employment and labor law over the past three years. He has no compunction against using the government’s leverage as a large purchaser of goods and services to get better outcomes for workers. But this power has been set aside with respect to Carrier — and outsourcing in general.
 
I've noticed the local religious radio stations tend to have numerous political segments. I've heard plenty of tripe spouted from these stations when catching a few minutes. This is the kind of nonsense I've heard from the likes of Bryan Fischer et al.

http://www.alan.com/2016/11/29/wildmon-by-electing-trump-we-avoided-criminalizing-christianity/
Speaking with his son Walker and AFA’s executive vice president Ed Vitagliano, Wildmon asserted that had Clinton won the presidential election, “the attacks on the Christian community would have gotten more intense.” Vitagliano agreed, saying that “President Hillary Clinton would have fully weaponized the federal government to come after Christians.”

“The secular progressive movement,” Wildmon said, “they have a contempt for especially conservative Christians and I think with the election of Donald Trump, we avoided catastrophe … I think that the secular progressive movement and the power of the federal government, especially the executive branch, was ready to really penalize and criminalize, who knows, Christianity in America, and we avoided that.”
 

And an ugly turtle at that.

Makes sense that Elaine Lan Chao is Sec of Transport -- she has the connections in view of her family fortunes.

Its the self-enrichment cabinet.

btw Lan Chao in a particular chinese dialect means cock!
 
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