Not to detail the thread, but depending on the period in question (pre or post Ptolemaic), plenty of Ancient Egyptians were white.
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Not to detail the thread, but depending on the period in question (pre or post Ptolemaic), plenty of Ancient Egyptians were white.
Well the man says ancient Egyptians were white, they were different hues of brown ranging from very pale where some would argue they were white to very dark where some would argue they were black. People claiming they were all one race/colour are usually doing so based on agendas...
Does it matter?!
We're all pink, inside.
We're all pink, inside.
Donald Trump’s Big Ethics Move Is to Replace Lobbyists With Former Lobbyists
DONALD TRUMP, IMPLEMENTING what one news outlet called a “tough lobbying ban“, swept several registered lobbyists out of his transition team last week — only to replace them on Monday with new officials heavily involved with lobbying for the same industry interests.
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DONALD TRUMP, IMPLEMENTING what one news outlet called a “tough lobbying ban“, swept several registered lobbyists out of his transition team last week — only to replace them on Monday with new officials heavily involved with lobbying for the same industry interests.
The junk food lobbyist overseeing the agency that is responsible for the federal school lunch program will be replaced — by a former junk food lobbyist.
The Koch Industries lobbyist who was overseeing transition efforts on energy and the environment will be replaced — by a former Koch Industries lobbyist who leads a think tank funded by Koch Industries.
The Trump transition-team ethics standards requires officials to deregister as lobbyists and agree to a five-year lobbying ban. But the rules do not preclude officials who have recently worked in the lobbying industry or currently work in the lobbying industry without having explicitly registered as lobbyists.
True enough. It was intermarriage between classes, so I'd imagine mixed race after the first Ptolemaic generation is fairly accurate. It's only really controversial if people use it as a way to diminish historical endeavors (pyramids, etc) of black people. That is obviously wrong. Usually only becomes an issue when people talk about Cleopatra for some reason, too.
Here's hoping that he'll be a liberal. His behaviour since winning is already starting to demonstrate something about the shackles of office. No president is beholden to themselves -- tradition of office, establishment, their party, opposition party, wider country. I'm more and more convinced that very little will change as each day goes by. Slight policy differences here and there, but essentially business as usual.
He's completely malleable on most issues. For example, after talking tough on waterboarding during the campaign, he flipped his view after meeting with Mattis, who told him giving prisoners cigarettes and fast food yielded more info than torturing them. He obviously watches a lot of TV and is moderating his views according to the most controversial items he sees on the nightly TV shows.
If Romney and Mattis are to be the most important people in his cabinet, that would make me worry a lot less. Definitely moderates in Republican terms. Almost liberal when contrasted against the Tea Party crowd.
Mattis supports a two state solution in the Middle East, too.
The Ancient Egyptians depicted themselves as either red or yellow.
I can never remember the biologist on redcafe, I keep getting confused between you and all other posters starting from s.
The americans are arrogant and dont like to be pointed out how wrong and stupid they are, and they'll react by voting this man again next term.
Just like they vote bush twice
Just like they vote bush twice
And likewise with Bill Clinton and Obama, so what's your point ?
Thanks for the broad brush. The plurality of us who didn't vote for Trump are appreciative.
Just tounge in cheek
At the end of the day he won. Popular vote or not it takes a lot of votes to win the potus.
People claim that they didn't vote brexit or trump, but that 50 percent votes didn't come from under the blanket
Not sure. Obama and clinton was good. I dont know what you guys see in bush junior and trump. Not you as in you perse but the us in general.
Trump didn't get 50% of the vote
46.6%! Currently.
Indeed. Clinton is up by 1.72 million in the popular vote, a popular vote gap larger than the that held by 7 people who won the presidency.
If popular vote mattered, Trump would have campaigned more in California and NY and won even more bigly.
He let Clinton win the popular vote so she could save face.
He let Clinton win the popular vote so she could save face.
How magnanimous
He probably wouldn't have pushed some of his agendas that were primarily aimed at certain sections and gone for a more balanced appeal.
Academics and lawyers urge Clinton to call for election vote recount
http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2016/11/23/494786/Hillary-Clinton-call-election-vote-recount
http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2016/11/23/494786/Hillary-Clinton-call-election-vote-recount
I guess this is a good thing, but Jesus Christ, this amount of backpedaling...Let's look the his big selling points in his campaign
1. The wall: Won't be built. It just won't
2. Banning muslims from entering the US: I'm no expert on the constitution, but i'm pretty sure that's illegal
3. Deporting illegal immigrants: He can try, but it's not like hes the first person in office who's aware of this, and hes not the first person who is going to try it
4. Bringing jobs back: Unless he plans to expand the governments sector, which i highly doubt he will, i don't really see how he is going to create a lot of new jobs
5. Taking down Obama care. It hasn't been a success, the republicans made sure of that, but i guess they will just go back to getting shafted by the insurance companies instead
6. Paris agreement and torture: Now also backpedaling
All politician lie through their teeth, especially during campaign, but this is something entirely different. Has there ever been a bigger conman in office?
What is the deal with general Mattis? Never heard of him before, and from reading about it, he looks sane enough in most parts, bar hating Iran.
Going on about the popular vote is pretty daft. Trump campaigned according to the EC rules for winning an election. If it were all about winning a majority then he would have campaigned differently.
So how many days until Trump announces some cosmetic change to TPP and then says it is the greatest thing ever?
Interesting and i hope Clinton calls for a recount.
These 3 listed below are part of the group calling for a recount. Look at their job titles.
Dr. Barbara Simons, a computer scientist and adviser to the Election Assistance Commission
John Bonifaz, the founder of the National Voting Rights Institute
Professor Alex Halderman, the director of the University of Michigan’s center for computer security and society
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I'm late as this has already been covered, but the term "white" in that context needs more detail.
Were they European? No, of course not. Were some paler in skin colour in comparison to others? Yes that's a very real plausibility, that doesn't mean they were "white" considering many black, Asian and mixed race people can cover the broad spectrum of skin pigment naturally even today.
Due to the location of the country, they were more likely to be a melting pot of Black African, Middle Eastern, Persian, Roman & Greek - and that melting pot can mean a wide variety of racial characteristics, and this variety is depicted in Ancient Egyptian art & history.
The first generation of Ptolemaic rulers were Hellenic aristocrats. Successive generations were mixed race due to political marriages.
What's the relevance of Ptolemaic era? Or ruling class? Figured you were both referencing the general populace from that area. Is this what the white supremacist was trying to refer to then?
The rulers yes, not the average Egyptian, and that covers a very brief period in Ancient Egyptian history.
Well, when Alexander conquered Egypt, Ptolemy was installed as ruler. This is the start of Hellenic Egypt -- the first few pharaohs of this dynasty were undoubtedly Greek. The latter rulers would have been mixed race as the Greeks sought to gain legitimacy with the wider population through intermarriage.
I don't know what exactly this guy was claiming. If he's saying that white people built the pyramids, then he's fabricating nonsense.
Yeah, I wouldn't question that. The population removed from the ruling class would have been an amalgamation of races. Egypt has always been a melting pot due to its being an historical bridge from Africa into the Middle East and Europe through the Mediterranean.
@afrocentricity There's no relevance to the Ptolemaic era, I didn't refer to it in my original point i'm not sure why he brought it up to be honest.
@Mciahel Goodman Yeah the white supremacist guy was saying white people built the pyramids, and Ancient Egyptians weren't black at all, and some other equally daft things. The guy's a nut case.
@Mciahel Goodman Yeah the white supremacist guy was saying white people built the pyramids, and Ancient Egyptians weren't black at all, and some other equally daft things. The guy's a nut case.
She is the brains between the two. After the meeting she will give him the top 3 points of the meeting.
The Illusionist with the hot assistant.
They both campaigned they way. She would obviously also have campaigned more in CA, NY, IL etc and beaten him even worse than she is now.
True that. Rick Scott managed to get a second term. One thing missed during the election for Trump was the constant criticism of him piling on from overseas leaders and media was more likely to piss off voters and galvanise them to vote for him. Their strong independent streak really grates at being told what to do, especially from part colonial masters.
Ironically, independent streak gained by way of help from the French.
No the independent streak was already there, the French helped in the fighting.
Was tongue in cheeks. It's meaningless though, most if not all colonies fight back against their masters eventually. Calling that an independent streak as if it's unique to the US is a bit much.
Of course, bloody Aussies are docile.
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