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This is why Denald shut down his account. Pointless to mock someone who comes out with stuff like this.
 
And so the normalization begins....
It was always inevitable.
It's how the human brain works.
If you get inundated with an something, you first get overwhelmed then used to it.
I don't think there's a person surprised with that tweet but what can one do?
I think people are wary of outrage at this point.
It's more of an acceptance.
That's the most damning about this presidency.
 
a point that may not have been explored.

Obama being the clever man he is, may have forseen the eventual issues we are seeing with the ACA.

The alternative?

Not going back to a private health insurance package.

The only movement is towards Medicaid and a government run program.
 
As a European, the only positive thing about Trump is that, this farce is has made more Europeans aware of the need to not elect clowns as leaders.
We're looking at this shambles and we want nothing of it.
 
Trump is obviously attempting to do one thing - galvanize his base so that they support him unconditionally during the storm that is about to hit him. If he loses Republican politicians he's toast. The only way to keep them in line is to rally the people who vote for them to support him, so that he can in effect control their congress members to support him. Without that, he's extremely vulnerable.
 
Problem here is the hardcore GOP base will see this as proof of voter fraud. The sane persons (everyone else) will see that as protection of personal information and preferences. The last thing I want is my information in the hands of Russians crooks and GOP asshats noting that I've voted DNC the last two GEs.
Think of the mental gymnastics involved in this...

He won't release his tax returns. What's he hiding?

But they won't ask that...
 
Trump is obviously attempting to do one thing - galvanize his base so that they support him unconditionally during the storm that is about to hit him. If he loses Republican politicians he's toast. The only way to keep them in line is to rally the people who vote for them to support him, so that he can in effect control their congress members to support him. Without that, he's extremely vulnerable.

A sizeable amount of the population is fiddling while the nation burns.
 
As a European, the only positive thing about Trump is that, this farce is has made more Europeans aware of the need to not elect clowns as leaders.
We're looking at this shambles and we want nothing of it.

Yes. But eventually memories fade and we are back electing sweatshop owners again in no time.
 
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We're all going to die.

People joke about this but I think we have genuine reason to be worried. The world is still in a shitty place from Bush's Iraq war. We've already seen Trump dropping a MOAB and attacking a Syrian airbase both at times when the distraction was a god send to him.

This is a man fully capable of doing something incredibly stupid that will have repercussions through the decades and for the single reason that it will benefit him. Republican officials won't give a shit either, they will be more than happy to continue the war in the middle east (or even start one in North Korea) because the gun companies that lobby them will make billions.

I'm genuinely fearful that I'll wake up one morning to news Trump has sanctioned a strike on a North Korean facility and China is absolutely furious.
 
a point that may not have been explored.

Obama being the clever man he is, may have forseen the eventual issues we are seeing with the ACA.

The alternative?

Not going back to a private health insurance package.

The only movement is towards Medicaid and a government run program.

The GOP plan isn't going back to private healthcare. It leaves all key issues in place and changes a bit of the size of benefits/funding - primarily in the far future (from 2024, so these things are never actually going to happen). On some issues it actually even expands on the ACA by forcing states that didn't went along to do stuff and by changing the funding.
This plan is the best thing that will ever happen to the democrats. If this passes, the GOP owns healthcare including all the rate hikes and exploding costs.
Yet due to media outrage and ignorance, the Dems can use it as effective campaign issue. When the Dems win a majority during the next 6years, they can easily remove the cuts, with almost no harm done and go all the way to single payer.
The GOP has/had one shot to move towards a market based system and they are not even attempting to do so.
So instead of panic, you should celebrate. Obviously that also means that exploding healthcare costs are never going to get addressed, but that's not something Dems care about anyway.
 
The GOP plan isn't going back to private healthcare. It leaves all key issues in place and changes a bit of the size of benefits/funding - primarily in the far future (from 2024, so these things are never actually going to happen). On some issues it actually even expands on the ACA by forcing states that didn't went along to do stuff and by changing the funding.
This plan is the best thing that will ever happen to the democrats. If this passes, the GOP owns healthcare including all the rate hikes and exploding costs.
Yet due to media outrage and ignorance, the Dems can use it as effective campaign issue. When the Dems win a majority during the next 6years, they can easily remove the cuts, with almost no harm done and go all the way to single payer.
The GOP has/had one shot to move towards a market based system and they are not even attempting to do so.
So instead of panic, you should celebrate. Obviously that also means that exploding healthcare costs are never going to get addressed, but that's not something Dems care about anyway.

On pure politics you make good points. Though I do not agree about exploding health care costs in a single payer/Medicare for All program.

But we are talking about lives here.

It sounds like there will be a move by the GOP Senate to reach across for a compromise bill.

But if the Dems are stupid enough to start from where the ACA is, good luck to them.

They should start from a Medicare for All plan proposaal and negotiate.

But they will be aware that Trump should not also be given a victory.

Sad days.

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Personally, if the new bill gets us closer to a single payer program, rather than weakening the ACA, I wont be bothered about Trump getting a 'win'.
 
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Might need to do a "global thermonuclear holocaust sweepstakes" thread at this point.
 
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