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Anyone got any more info on what occurred with the CNN story on Scaramucci.

3 CNN employees have resigned over it. These aren't some low level employees. One even won a Pulitzer award and another was a nominee.

Out are: The reporter, Pulitzer-Prize nominee Thomas Frank; assistant managing editor Eric Lichtblau (who recently joined from the New York Times and is a Pulitzer winner himself); and Lex Haris, the executive editor in charge of investigations.
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http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2017/06/26/cnn-resign-russia-scaramucci-239975
 
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Also to add that this event has resulted in CNN now imposing stricter rules on their Russia stories.

You have to wonder whether the story was made up? It seems unlikely when you look at the accomplishments of the journalists involved, so not sure what has happened.
 
Fergies Gum said:
Anyone got any more info on what occurred with the CNN story on Scaramucci.
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Just this at the moment, but it will all come out very soon, of that I am sure.



Those filled in on the results of the internal investigation were reportedly told that the facts of the story weren’t necessarily wrong, but that the piece wasn’t strong enough to run as is.
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And..

A source close to CNN told BuzzFeed that the story’s publication was a "massive, massive f--- up and people will be disciplined."
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:lol: FFS.
 
Raoul said:
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He isn't going anywhere. Of his 38% approval rating, 80% of those are Republican. Nixon resigned because Republicans in Congress went to the White House and simply told him he had to go cause he lost their support. Mitch and those Republicans in Congress aren't gonna do that as long as the Orange Turd in there and they can ram through their agenda that Obama stymied while they had control of Congress. As long as Trump preoccupies all of us with his tweets and erratic behaviour, they can quietly slip middle class damaging legislation under the radar. Trump is their perfect Trojan Horse...he isn't going anywhere before 2021.
 
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They'd still vote for the GOP anyway. The Dems are playing checkers and unfortunately for them, when Obama got elected and they were resting on their laurels. The GOP played a massive chess game taking the country state by state including governorships and state legislators. They also gerrymandered the shit out of many of their districts so that the Dem votes would count for nothing. If the Dems want to get back into power they need to stop playing nice with the GOP.
 
Fergies Gum said:
Anyone got any more info on what occurred with the CNN story on Scaramucci.

3 CNN employees have resigned over it. These aren't some low level employees. One even won a Pulitzer award and another was a nominee.



http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2017/06/26/cnn-resign-russia-scaramucci-239975
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This actually broke yesterday. Seems three of CNN's journos went with a flimsy story that painted Scaramucci as somethibg that wasn't. He objected, CNN investigated and found he was correct.

CNN have done a good job in sacking people for going overboard on Trump. Kathy Griffin, Reza Aslan, and these three deserved to be let go.
 
The saddest thing is so many innocent Americans, probably mainly kids, are going to die with this healthcare bill. Treatments that could have prevented illness or prolonged life now just no longer even a luxury for a lot of families. :(

Surely this will hit mid-America the worst? Where all the Trump supporting hicks live?
 
Dumbstar said:
The saddest thing is so many innocent Americans, probably mainly kids, are going to die with this healthcare bill. Treatments that could have prevented illness or prolonged life now just no longer even a luxury for a lot of families. :(

Surely this will hit mid-America the worst? Where all the Trump supporting hicks live?
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It will certainly hit places at the heart of the opioid epidemic harshly, with removal of coverage for opioid treatment and addictions in general. People will certainly die in places like West Virginia, the epicenter of it.

But hey, he brought back a few coal mining jobs there so that makes it worth it (he didn't actually; the temporary uptick was due to a change in metallurgical coal exports from China).
 
Dumbstar said:
The saddest thing is so many innocent Americans, probably mainly kids, are going to die with this healthcare bill. Treatments that could have prevented illness or prolonged life now just no longer even a luxury for a lot of families. :(

Surely this will hit mid-America the worst? Where all the Trump supporting hicks live?
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I don't know if the bill will pass as of this morning. If they don't make any progress in flipping the currently 4 Senators who are against even bringing it to the floor, then all the Senators will go into next week's break without having moved the bill forward, at which point they will all face irate constituents.
 
Dumbstar said:
The saddest thing is so many innocent Americans, probably mainly kids, are going to die with this healthcare bill. Treatments that could have prevented illness or prolonged life now just no longer even a luxury for a lot of families. :(

Surely this will hit mid-America the worst? Where all the Trump supporting hicks live?
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It's definitely going to hurt pro-Trump Upstate SC
 
fcbforever said:
Republicans will never allow it. To give someone who has been so popular among independents and democrats, who's such a brilliant speaker, public exposure in congress would be suicide for them.
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He can make the explanation without testifying in Congress. I don't mind having a panel of reporters from CNN, NBC and FOX interviewing him. He should explain his decisions in this matter.
 
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BTW, I do think that Obama has some explanation to make.
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I don't see the value of bringing Obama in other than it would be the latest attempt to obfuscate the attention from Trump to something else.

Its obvious why Obama didn't act. One candidate was ranting about a rigged system and then suddenly Obama says the Russians are attempting to help Trump ? I don't think so. He did the right thing in staying quiet and working to stop it behind the scenes. His only failure he didn't go after Putin.
 
Raoul said:
Its obvious why Obama didn't act. One candidate was ranting about a rigged system and then suddenly Obama says the Russians are attempting to help Trump ? I don't think so. He did the right thing in staying quiet and working to stop it behind the scenes. His only failure he didn't go after Putin.
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This can be argued both ways. The country deserved to know what was happening at the time, regardless of how much it might have hurt his own optics and party.
 
kps88 said:
This can be argued both ways. The country deserved to know what was happening at the time, regardless of how much it might have hurt his own optics and party.
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That's arguable and certainly by no means definite. The country's representatives did know and were under no obligation to undermine the credibility of the election by going public before it took place.
 
Raoul said:
His only failure he didn't go after Putin.
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What kind of position was he in though? He literally had a few months to see out as President, he was trying his hardest to get the SCOTUS pick of Garland through, and even though his point was proved over that (by him being ignored, yet previously unanimously elected by Republicans) he was in a no win situation over Russia. He acts and Putin ignores him or even worse retaliates, Obama wouldn't risk leaving as President with the USA and Russia heading towards another Cold War.

Obama did get involved and he definitely told Putin to stop the hacking, this was reported here http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38349989 and he was mocked by many for treating it all like a naughty school kid issue, complete with a stern telling off at the end, so it does shock me that more people didn't know at the time. It doesn't surprise me in the slightest that it's now being used as a stick to beat Obama with. Trump is desperate and will do anything to deflect from himself and even better if he destroys Obama's name at the same time. Out of pure spite he is destroying Obama's legacy. Just think about that for a minute...... The man is a lunatic and if there is anything left after Trump then things need to change drastically to ensure someone so corrupt, so ignorant, so dumb, so spiteful and nasty, someone so fecking dangerous, cannot be allowed to become President again.
 
langster said:
What kind of position was he in though? He literally had a few months to see out as President, he was trying his hardest to get the SCOTUS pick of Garland through, and even though his point was proved over that (by him being ignored, yet previously unanimously elected by Republicans) he was in a no win situation over Russia. He acts and Putin ignores him or even worse retaliates, Obama wouldn't risk leaving as President with the USA and Russia heading towards another Cold War.

Obama did get involved and he definitely told Putin to stop the hacking, this was reported here http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38349989 and he was mocked by many for treating it all like a naughty school kid issue, complete with a stern telling off at the end, so it does shock me that more people didn't know at the time. It doesn't surprise me in the slightest that it's now being used as a stick to beat Obama with. Trump is desperate and will do anything to deflect from himself and even better if he destroys Obama's name at the same time. Out of pure spite he is destroying Obama's legacy. Just think about that for a minute...... The man is a lunatic and if there is anything left after Trump then things need to change drastically to ensure someone so corrupt, so ignorant, so dumb, so spiteful and nasty, someone so fecking dangerous, cannot be allowed to become President again.
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He had plenty of options, more sanctions beyond what he previously had implemented, a cyber attack that rivaled that of Russia's, an embarrassing expose on Putin's wealth, removing Russia from the SWFT banking system...the choices are endless.

Garland wasn't a factor since it was obvious the GOP were going to block it.
 
Raoul said:
He had plenty of options, more sanctions beyond what he previously had implemented, a cyber attack that rivaled that of Russia's, an embarrassing expose on Putin's wealth, removing Russia from the SWFT banking system...the choices are endless.

Garland wasn't a factor since it was obvious the GOP were going to block it.
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Yeah, I know they were trying to block Garland, he knew that, that's why he put Garland up. I think he just wanted to show that no matter who he put up wouldn't be good enough but he made a point of trying to get the SCOTUS pick through and dedicated a lot of his time to it

Agreed he could have put more sanctions against Russia, but he had a word, told Putin to cut it out and did his best to stay out so as he wasn't himself accused of meddling in the election. I personally think a tit for tat cyber attack would have been seen as an act of war by Putin and he didn't rise to the bait. No matter what he was in a lose/lose situation as is being proved now.

Personally, I think it's disgusting that the current President has spent his time trashing Obama and showing absolutely no respect for him at all, yet demanding respect from everyone else. It's also despicable he spends his time calling out and singling out anyone or anything that opposes him or upsets him.
 
langster said:
What kind of position was he in though? He literally had a few months to see out as President, he was trying his hardest to get the SCOTUS pick of Garland through, and even though his point was proved over that (by him being ignored, yet previously unanimously elected by Republicans) he was in a no win situation over Russia. He acts and Putin ignores him or even worse retaliates, Obama wouldn't risk leaving as President with the USA and Russia heading towards another Cold War.

Obama did get involved and he definitely told Putin to stop the hacking, this was reported here http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38349989 and he was mocked by many for treating it all like a naughty school kid issue, complete with a stern telling off at the end, so it does shock me that more people didn't know at the time. It doesn't surprise me in the slightest that it's now being used as a stick to beat Obama with. Trump is desperate and will do anything to deflect from himself and even better if he destroys Obama's name at the same time. Out of pure spite he is destroying Obama's legacy. Just think about that for a minute...... The man is a lunatic and if there is anything left after Trump then things need to change drastically to ensure someone so corrupt, so ignorant, so dumb, so spiteful and nasty, someone so fecking dangerous, cannot be allowed to become President again.
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I understand the attempt of Trump, Gingrich and others to divert, and they will use it as much as they possibly could. The attacks of the current president on the former president are just ridiculous and disrespectful to the office of presidency. I never wanted Obama to criticize GWB after the transition of power.

But I believe that the people of this country should get an explanation from the former president about his decision-making process. Did he really play it soft because of the assumption that Hillary would win? Did he play it soft because he didn't want Trump to make "fortune" of it? Or what exactly was the reason that little was said about it before November 8th? It's not a blame game or anything like that, it's just trying to get some insights about what President Obama thought at that time.
 




I hate him, I really, REALLY do. His last half a dozen or so Tweets have all been promoting Fox News and Fox & friends, Eric the wanker Boling or Hannity, yet he has the fecking nerve to chat shit about FAKE NEWS? There are no words, really, there aren't.
 
langster said:




I hate him, I really, REALLY do. His last half a dozen or so Tweets have all been promoting Fox News and Fox & friends, Eric the wanker Boling or Hannity, yet he has the fecking nerve to chat shit about FAKE NEWS? There are no words, really, there aren't.
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Sounds like you're allowing social media to control your emotions. Just step away for a bit and you'll feel better.
 
Raoul said:
Sounds like you're allowing social media to control your emotions. Just step away for a bit and you'll feel better.
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:lol: Not really. It's just my style of posting. Of course he irritates me and it upsets me that he's allowed to do this, but it's more that nothing seems to be done about it all. I just wish there was something that the little people could do because he's really taking the piss now. I hope the press throw petrol on him when he's on fire, because I'm sure that constantly attacking them isn't the smartest thing to do, but the fact he's convinced enough of his followers that they are fake is worrisome enough.
 
langster said:




I hate him, I really, REALLY do. His last half a dozen or so Tweets have all been promoting Fox News and Fox & friends, Eric the wanker Boling or Hannity, yet he has the fecking nerve to chat shit about FAKE NEWS? There are no words, really, there aren't.
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One of the first steps towards tyranny is attacking the press. And the cretins that elected him are not only walking right into it, but jumping face first.
 
Organic Potatoes said:
One of the first steps towards tyranny is attacking the press. And the cretins that elected him are not only walking right into it, but jumping face first.
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Yup, and he's been attacking them since the day he found out they didn't like him. Before, when they were blowing smoke up his arse (like Fox do) he couldn't get enough of them. That's what upsets me the most is that he's so transparent yet people just don't seem to see it.

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Yeah, if you thought he ground out Hillary stories to the last drop, just wait and see how long he'll run with this one. Deplorables have got a justification for everything on the back of this :rolleyes:
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Mate, that's what I was thinking. He is going to play this for months and months. Ignore the FACTS that CNN retracted the story and admitted fault. Surely that they did that should show that they stand by everything else they have published? but no, let's ignore that completely. He won't even contemplate things like that because that doesn't suit his agenda. I think the fact he's looking more and more unhinged, lying far more and ignoring important problems more, yet looking even more unstoppable and immovable which is the most immensely depressing and extremely frustrating part of this whole sham of a Presidency.
 
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