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Then hes more of a cnut than Tyson Fury, hope they fight each other and ......
I would do. We'd set a date, he'd decide on a different date without telling anyone and when I didn't turn up he would blame me for ducking.
Bit of a slower match up, but was impressed that AJ went for the points victory over trying to maintain a KO record given that his jab made things easy for him. The referee was a bit quick to jump in but really both fighters were holding most of the time waiting for the referee to interject. Parker might have had some quick combos on the inside but conversely we might have seen some of the combos that Joshua threw against Klitschko.
Overall decent enough and hope they can get a big fight next. Not sure what state Fury's in, or if Wilder is up to the fight, so might end up having to be someone like Povetkin. Haven't really watched enough of Wilder barring highlights to judge fully but AJ in his current state and given that he's very motivated in training camps imo will be very hard to beat. Imo someone like Fury who might be able to technically outbox him would be harder but even then I think AJ can make a scrap of it when he wants to like he did in the Klitschko fight.
Overall decent enough and hope they can get a big fight next. Not sure what state Fury's in, or if Wilder is up to the fight, so might end up having to be someone like Povetkin. Haven't really watched enough of Wilder barring highlights to judge fully but AJ in his current state and given that he's very motivated in training camps imo will be very hard to beat. Imo someone like Fury who might be able to technically outbox him would be harder but even then I think AJ can make a scrap of it when he wants to like he did in the Klitschko fight.
To sell the fight. He fights infront of 6k and he’s probably more known in the UK than he is in the US. By all accounts or Eddies, they’ve never even made contact about a fight but Eddie has been in touch and made a few offers. It looks like Wilder is Just fabricating the everyone is ducking him rubbish, because as far as we know he’s had offers and now both Whyte and AJ have called him on his BS.
I want to see it as I’m impressed that someone can have such poor technique and have a record like he does. It’s an intresting fight. Wilder looks easily beatable by any one who is half decent, but then the man has a warhead in either hand. AJ certainly looks hitable but the way Wilder loops punches I just see him getting flattened quickly. I think Joshua, Parker, Whyte,Haye,Belles would probably all beat him.
Question really is, does Wilder want it because as far as I can see this past few weeks he was setting up his excuses and avoiding it. Now he has been called out so let’s see what he does.
Just the same things tyson said, it's a vicious sport don't look at boxers for role models
It's a pretty fecking shit thing to say. It's a sport at the end of the day. I mean have a least a bit of solidarity for people who died in the ring. It's unacceptable even if he doesn't really mean it.
Tyson's was much worse: "I want your heart, I want to eat your children", followed by "my objective is to be professional but to kill him", and then becoming a punching bag for Lewis.
He also said for Razor "March 16th, Mike Tyson [vs.] Razor Ruddock, Razor Ruddock dies. If he doesn't die, it doesn't count. If he's not dead, it doesn't count."
It is common for these bad boy heavyweights to say stuff like that. Wilder has been modelling himself like Tyson (to not much success), so I am not surprised at all.
I agree its a terrible thing to say but off course he doesn't mean it and he is just saying what boxers have said before.
Doesn't make it right but boxing is not for the faint hearted . Noone really remembers the nice guys in boxing even Ali came out with some shocking lines to his opponents
I actually never heard the Tyson comments before. They seem waaayy out there. I want to eat your children
mhm...nice one.Edit: Then again he did bite a part of someone's ear off.
Ali essentially started trash talking. He didn't promise to kill people, but he offended everyone.
Wasn't Ali outside someones house with a big speaker demanding a fight. Legendary stuff.
Yeah drove up in a bus parked on (I think it was Frazers Lawn) started calling him out demanding the fight, sure he would phone his house as well but I’m sure on that occasion Fraser came out with a gun and started firing. Think it was just in the air mind. It’s in some Ali book I read. When we were kings I think.Wasn't Ali outside someones house with a big speaker demanding a fight. Legendary stuff.
Edit: just checked it was Liston not Frazer.
Don't believe everything you hear from Sky's end. Wilders camp come out with the same shite over in the US on national television. It's par for the course in boxing to make the other party look like they don't want the fight when it is generally an argument over how the money is split or where the fight will take place etc. I'm sure both fighters want it but their teams will be arguing over the usual stuff wanting their cut of the money.
Do they get to pick the ref ?
Itll be the richest fight in years.
I dont know much about wilder really but his KO power is something else.
Has all the ingredients for a cracker.
Just dont let an italian ref take charge
Even though he won it exposed Joshua a little bit. He found Parker's movement really difficult to deal with and hard to hit with anything other than his jab.
I've never really given Fury a chance before, but think it looks like a more interesting fight now given he's probably even harder to hit and can actually bit back.
I've never really given Fury a chance before, but think it looks like a more interesting fight now given he's probably even harder to hit and can actually bit back.
This tells you everything you need to know about Fury and how his career is over. Not boxed in 3 years and still claiming to be "the true king", what next? Lennox Lewis tweeting the same thing? It's pretty embarrassing but Fury knows full well he's already had the best night of his career and won't be coming back.
Only people not mentioned as future opponents for Joshua are Gassiev and Usyk who are fighting for all the Cruiserweight belts and the Super Series in May, and will then be stepping up to Heavyweight. Both of them could be contenders by next year.
Wilder and Joshua were both adults before they ever put on a pair of boxing gloves. That's mad to me, I always think a world champ must've been at the game since they were tiny.
Are they both prodigies or just physically gifted at a time where there's a dearth of decent heavyweights? If they were both 5'11 instead of 6'7, would they be world champions at a lower weight class?
Are they both prodigies or just physically gifted at a time where there's a dearth of decent heavyweights? If they were both 5'11 instead of 6'7, would they be world champions at a lower weight class?
Joshua wouldn't be holding 4 belts at this stage of his career had the likes of Holyfield, Lewis etc been around. He'd still be learning his trade and matched up against lesser opponents, hoping to be able to take on these guys in say 2020-2021.
Random question but does a boxer get a new belt every time he defends it?
i assumed they just kept it and a new one was given when the reigning champ got beat. Reason i ask is i saw a pic of floyd with a table full of belts so assumed he got a new one with each defence.
i assumed they just kept it and a new one was given when the reigning champ got beat. Reason i ask is i saw a pic of floyd with a table full of belts so assumed he got a new one with each defence.
I expect he just had replicas made up. Would be a bit weird to keep it don't you think?
Just got done watching this with a self-imposed media blackout and Russian commentary. Too boring to properly score it round by round but Joshua was in complete control the entire fight imo. Dictated the whole contest with his jab, and looked more threatening on the inside exchanges on the rare occasions that the referee allowed them to punch. Scorecards seemed fine to me.
Well underrated comment. Jake would have put up a better fight.
Come on man, Tyson and Bowe did feck all in the past 20 years, and Holyfield was on the decline then too. Joshua has been matched tougher after 21 fights than Lewis or either Klitschko too.
Well underrated comment. Jake would have put up a better fight.Come on man, Tyson and Bowe did feck all in the past 20 years, and Holyfield was on the decline then too. Joshua has been matched tougher after 21 fights than Lewis or either Klitschko too.
Seriously Whyte is one of the worst boxers out there and he has to cheek to call out Wilder just because he beat a overweight Lucas Browne and is living off troubling Joshua in a fight, thinking he's something he's not
Wilder looks like he started as an adult! Boxing is a weird sport, heart is a massive part of being successful and you can’t train for that. Most people aren’t heavyweights so naturally the talent pool is more shallow. If you have size, guts and a big punch you can go far.
The skill level is higher in the smaller weight classes generally but then big men lack the dexterity and agility of smaller men.
Well he's not is he?
Some absolutely awful opinions in this thread
I don't follow boxing much these days. Are the people AJ has beaten any good and is he a good boxer and not a boxer looking good because his opponents suck...
Right now he’s still very raw. He has improved a lot of fundamentals but I guess you can put some of it down to the fact that as others mentioned, he didn’t start boxing until 10 years ago.
The majority aren't great really but AJs team have done a good job of hyping up the fights and building the opponent. Vlad was his only real test to date and there are question marks over him and whether he was what he once was. Imo Vlad has been there for the taking for years. Chisora gave him a good run for his money years ago.
The HW division isn't what it once was but, at the end of the day, you can only beat what's in front of you. AJ is better than most others, that can't be denied, but like Klitschko, his size and power see's him through most of his fights and his actual boxing skill never gets drawn upon or tested.
Who has he beaten? Seriously? Dereck Chisora? And he (Whyte) being called one of the most dangerous heavyweights in the world, you have to laugh it's embarrassing for the division .
Wilder v Joshua really is the only fight to make. Can’t see it taking place anywhere outside the UK though, wilder simply doesn’t have that big of a following.
Not that it’s the be all and end all, but;
Twitter
Joshua- almost 2 million followers
Wilder- almost 300,000
Instagram
Joshua- 6 milllion followers
Wilder- 781,000 followers
With a popularity range like that, the upper hand rests firmly with Eddie Hearn and he’ll know that. He’d rather half fill an 80,000 stadium against some cannon fodder for Joshua than fight wilder in Vegas. I’d imagine any offer to fight in the UK would be in the 70/30 range in Joshua’s favour and all things considered, that’s still generous to wilder.
Style wise, I have Joshua as the better boxer but wilder could put him on the deck with either hand. Wilder weathers a storm pretty well as demonstrated in his fight against molina, and we know Joshua can get a second wind after a heavy knockdown. Wilder hits you clean, you’re almost 100% going to the floor.
Not that it’s the be all and end all, but;
Joshua- almost 2 million followers
Wilder- almost 300,000
Joshua- 6 milllion followers
Wilder- 781,000 followers
With a popularity range like that, the upper hand rests firmly with Eddie Hearn and he’ll know that. He’d rather half fill an 80,000 stadium against some cannon fodder for Joshua than fight wilder in Vegas. I’d imagine any offer to fight in the UK would be in the 70/30 range in Joshua’s favour and all things considered, that’s still generous to wilder.
Style wise, I have Joshua as the better boxer but wilder could put him on the deck with either hand. Wilder weathers a storm pretty well as demonstrated in his fight against molina, and we know Joshua can get a second wind after a heavy knockdown. Wilder hits you clean, you’re almost 100% going to the floor.
That was Vitali not Wladimir.
They gave Parker a 35% split, so likely Wilder will get more (something like 40% or so).
Also Chisora's moral victory was being one of the only fighters not to have been KO'd by Vitali. The fight wasn't in anyway close.
Never underestimate Hearn. Parker- as you saw in the build up and post fight interview- is a likeable guy who brought the potential for a whole new nation tuning in. They gave him that big a share because they liked the guy. They HATE Wilder. Any way they can screw him, they will.
Maybe, or maybe we'd argue over who the better boxer was then if I finished you in 6 rounds you'd start banging on about how I'm rubbish at cricket and insulting me.
I don't think Joshua's following in the UK would matter much in this case as both fighters would make much bigger PPV money if the fight was in the states, since that is the biggest PPV market in the world. Americans are less likely to buy a PPV event that takes place between 2-5pm on a weekend day as they are to buy one that takes place at 8pm. Also, the value of filling a massive stadium where some people need binoculars to watch the fight sort of defeats the purpose. The would be better of holding it at either MSG or T-Mobile in Vegas.
That said, I suspect Hearn wants to make the fight in the UK because they want to give Joshua the home crowd advantage (obviously using the stadium size as an excuse), but that would be unncessary imo, since Joshua is also popular in the US and would have a fairly balanced following here if he fought Wilder, who is less popular.
@Raoul it really depends on the way they do the math. An arena with 80,000 people paying 75% the average cost of a ticket versus an arena that seats 20,000 will still make mega, mega money once concessions are taken into account.
They simply couldn’t justify even a $75 PPV price stateside, people don’t care enough. Would probably come closer to $49.99 and I’m sure sky sports would charge more than £20 for a heavyweight fight that determines the undisputed champ.
All that considered, there’s not enough financial temptation for anyone in Joshua’s camp to make this outside the UK.
They simply couldn’t justify even a $75 PPV price stateside, people don’t care enough. Would probably come closer to $49.99 and I’m sure sky sports would charge more than £20 for a heavyweight fight that determines the undisputed champ.
All that considered, there’s not enough financial temptation for anyone in Joshua’s camp to make this outside the UK.