The RedCafe Boxing Thread

If AJ wipes out Parker it's a huge statement.

I agree partly I just wish there were more people that it was a statement to. Fury and wilder are the only big fights in the division, hopefully in the next few years some of the younger American talent fully emerges and we get a proper rivalry.
 
I agree partly I just wish there were more people that it was a statement to. Fury and wilder are the only big fights in the division, hopefully in the next few years some of the younger American talent fully emerges and we get a proper rivalry.
Fury is a non entity. He's a fat, irrelevant has been. The Wilder fight is the one to make. That said, I don't rate Wilder at all. Crude, chinny, sloppy, lacking technique....yeah.

Povetkin, on the other hand, is dangerous.
 
Fury is a non entity. He's a fat, irrelevant has been. The Wilder fight is the one to make. That said, I don't rate Wilder at all. Crude, chinny, sloppy, lacking technique....yeah.

Povetkin, on the other hand, is dangerous.
Getting on in years. Interesting to see how Price does against him.
 
Fury is a non entity. He's a fat, irrelevant has been. The Wilder fight is the one to make. That said, I don't rate Wilder at all. Crude, chinny, sloppy, lacking technique....yeah.

Povetkin, on the other hand, is dangerous.

He's the only heavyweight I'd give a serious chance of beating AJ at the moment. Wilder obviously has a punchers chance, but Fury could be that awkward fighter that gives AJ a defeat.
 
He's the only heavyweight I'd give a serious chance of beating AJ at the moment. Wilder obviously has a punchers chance, but Fury could be that awkward fighter that gives AJ a defeat.
Fury hasn't fought in 3 years and was (and might still be) morbidly obese. He's a non factor in the HW division.
 
By people who don't know what they're talking about. And it's always best to ignore them.

He has a point. Boxing has far fewer purists than it used to, and the vast majority of those watching tomorrow won’t know much about Parker.
 
Fury hasn't fought in 3 years and was (and might still be) morbidly obese. He's a non factor in the HW division.

My mate is good friends with him and he's constantly sending him snaps of him back in the gym. He is still fecking nuts, but I reckon he could fight sooner rather than later.
 
He’ll sell more tickets than anyone in the division Joshua aside. He’s not a non factor at all.
He's not even a f*cking boxer. He's a fat asshole who says shit. Again, he hasn't fought in 3 years. You think, IF he actually gets in shape (which he won't), his first fight back will be a title shot? Because it won't be. It will be multiple tune ups, a few fights against contenders, then a few fights that actually matter.

Except it won't happen at all because he's finished.
 
He's not even a f*cking boxer. He's a fat asshole who says shit. Again, he hasn't fought in 3 years. You think, IF he actually gets in shape (which he won't), his first fight back will be a title shot? Because it won't be. It will be multiple tune ups, a few fights against contenders, then a few fights that actually matter.

Except it won't happen at all because he's finished.

He looked better against kiltschko than Joshua did.
 
He's not even a f*cking boxer. He's a fat asshole who says shit. Again, he hasn't fought in 3 years. You think, IF he actually gets in shape (which he won't), his first fight back will be a title shot? Because it won't be. It will be multiple tune ups, a few fights against contenders, then a few fights that actually matter.

Except it won't happen at all because he's finished.

The guy who gave Wlad his first loss in 15+ years is not a boxer? :lol:
 
The guy who gave Wlad his first loss in 15+ years is not a boxer? :lol:
Clearly the guys point is based around the fact Fury hasn't fought in 3 years, so bringing up a fight that was 3 years ago isn't exactly a valid point.
 
AJ knocked him out. Fury ran and threw arm punches in the worst HW title fight of all time.

You sound like an agenda laden boxing fan with comments like this. Fair enough you don’t like the guy, don’t knock him for sticking to a game plan that frustrated one of the legends of the division. He’s a significantly smarter boxer than you’re giving him credit for here. Dislikeabke, but he has enough entertainment value that if he does make it back to the ring, he’ll be box office stuff again.
 
You sound like an agenda laden boxing fan with comments like this. Fair enough you don’t like the guy, don’t knock him for sticking to a game plan that frustrated one of the legends of the division. He’s a significantly smarter boxer than you’re giving him credit for here. Dislikeabke, but he has enough entertainment value that if he does make it back to the ring, he’ll be box office stuff again.
AJ knocked him out. This is a fact. The Fury fight is widely recognised as terrible. You want to argue that it wasn't, fine, horses for courses.

And again IF. There is nothing to suggest that Fury will ever be a boxer again, never mind a contender.
 
AJ knocked him out. This is a fact. The Fury fight is widely recognised as terrible. You want to argue that it wasn't, fine, horses for courses.

And again IF. There is nothing to suggest that Fury will ever be a boxer again, never mind a contender.

Serious question, have you had a bit to drink?
 
You need to read what I’ve said.

I didn’t say the fight wasn’t boring.

I haven’t said he’s an entertaining fighter.
You said he's entertaining.

But he has enough entertainment value that if he does make it back to the ring

Perhaps you find a misogynistic, homophobic cretin entertaining. I don't, but again, horses for courses.
 
You said he's entertaining.



Perhaps you find a misogynistic, homophobic cretin entertaining. I don't, but again, horses for courses.

Entertaining;

Encompasses a desirablity to watch, whether to see him win/infuriated opponents with his chat/lose and get knocked out.

I don’t like him at All, he’s just prime time tv as far as that heavyweight decision goes which admittedly isn’t saying much.
 
Again, though, he isn't prime time. He's a non factor. Just some fat asshole who talks shit. The most entertaining thing he ever did was lose to a guy with man boobs.
 
AJ knocked him out. This is a fact. The Fury fight is widely recognised as terrible. You want to argue that it wasn't, fine, horses for courses.

And again IF. There is nothing to suggest that Fury will ever be a boxer again, never mind a contender.

You're talking absolute nonsense. Fury schooled Wlad in his back yard, it wasn't the most entertaining fight (hardly terrible like you say) but it was an excellent win which nobody really expected. Hearn saw this and realised that Wlad was not the same as he used to be made the fight with Joshua because it was the perfect time. Joshua's win was entertaining but nowhere near as convincing as Fury's win, the guy almost got stopped himself!

Seriously, you might not like the guy and yes he hasnt fought in 3 years but before his personal problems he was the best heavyweight in the division. Nobody has any real idea how he would be if he comes back, but to say hes just a fat guy who talks, give your head a wobble
 
You're talking absolute nonsense. Fury schooled Wlad in his back yard, it wasn't the most entertaining fight (hardly terrible like you say) but it was an excellent win which nobody really expected. Hearn saw this and realised that Wlad was not the same as he used to be made the fight with Joshua because it was the perfect time. Joshua's win was entertaining but nowhere near as convincing as Fury's win, the guy almost got stopped himself!

Seriously, you might not like the guy and yes he hasnt fought in 3 years but before his personal problems he was the best heavyweight in the division. Nobody has any real idea how he would be if he comes back, but to say hes just a fat guy who talks, give your head a wobble
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I googled 'worst HW fights of all time'. First result?

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...worst-heavyweight-champions-in-boxing-history

The 'fight' was absolute garbage.
 
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Have you actually read the article you pasted? :lol:

Its got nothing to do with the fight, just an opinion piece on the worst heavyweights of boxing. Not only that you ignore the rest of my post because you've got nothing sensible to say. You've made a fool of yourself, head to bed mate enough internet for you.
Yes, I did read it.

As far as heavyweight championship bouts go, Klitschko-Fury was the exact opposite of Ali-Frazier, Holmes-Ken Norton and Evander Holyfield-Riddick Bowe. There was no sustained offense from either fighter. There was no ebb and flow in the action. There was very little action, period.

Good for Tyson, no fun to watch, and would not buy again. Perhaps they could make it pay-per-punch.

Obviously you didn't. Stop embarrassing yourself.
 
I didn't edit anything. Those quotes are from the link I posted. The link that you said "had nothing to do with the fight". :lol:

I'm a little embarrassed for you at this point.

You edited the above post where you copied the article after you realised it had nothing to do with the fight like you thought you did and tried to make it seem like you had read it. Just so you know, everyone can see edited posts and your original post is in my quote.

Not only that, the article, which isn't about the fight like you thought it was, literally has only 2 lines commenting on the fight, tell me how does that back your point as the fight 'being recognised as widely terrible"? You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. 95% of Mayweathers fights were exactly like that, people like you think they're terrible because there wasn't a flashy knockdown. It took alot more skill doing what Fury did to Wlad, Joshua had a good win but was almost stopped on his feet.

Like I said go to sleep, you can use the word 'embarrassing' as many times as you want, it doesn't make it true. You've shown you know nothing about boxing just hating on a guy for other reasons rather than his skill, but maybe you can google something else and quote 1 line out of a whole article to somehow make your post relevant.
 
Everyone’s embarrassed for both of you.

Fury was a top fighter and it’s not mad at all to think he’s one of the few out there who could give AJ issues.

I think he will fight again too.

Don’t like him personally and would love to see AJ or anyone put him away.
 
I didn't edit anything. Those quotes are from the link I posted. The link that you said "had nothing to do with the fight". :lol:

I'm a little embarrassed for you at this point.
Lol you are a pure hater, Fury’s boxing skills for someone his size are unreal.

He’s still Lineal.
 
https://www.google.ca/amp/www.boxin...vkin-vs-jamie-munguia-possible-for-may-5/amp/

Talk of a stand-in if Canelo gets banned (which I hope he does just to hear De La Hoya whine about it). No way can they get away with a $70 pay per view price.

Such a shame for GGG that he’s just not more of a pull. I hope he’s done well enough for himself to retire with enough in the bank to live off for a long time, a man of his talent should have made 9 figures.
 
The inherent quality of Fury's fight with Wlad has been hugely overstated with hindsight (and injury/being a drug-induced halfwit).

Fury fought well but it wasn't a particularly great exhibition of Wlad's real quality. The suggestion that Fury's win, irrespective of where it was, was better than Joshua's is just daft. Joshua knocked the bloke into space on three occasions. The only reason it happened three times was due to the impressive effort made by Wlad to come back with a bang and take big hits on the chin. Boxing isn't about awkwardness; it's about fighting.