The RedCafe Boxing Thread

Really? Klitschko was entirely disinterested at the point in his career when he fought Fury. His preparation against Joshua, however, was on an entirely different level. He knew it was his last shot against AJ and put everything into it. It's very, very noticeable.

I think it was Fury and his awkwardness, skill + length that made Klitchko look pedestrian in that fight. Also one thing that's very important is the fact that Klitchko was never known for his heart , to dig in, bite on the mouthpiece and go for a KO when he's losing the fight.
 
I think it was Fury and his awkwardness, skill + length that made Klitchko look pedestrian in that fight. Also one thing that's very important is the fact that Klitchko was never known for his heart , to dig in, bite on the mouthpiece and go for a KO when he's losing the fight.
That is what ultimately won the fight, but Klitschko wasn't prepared for it. There was no game plan, no preparation. He was in autopilot because that's all he had needed for so long. Fury was the first genuine fighter he had come up against in some time.

I'm not saying he didn't deserve to win the fight, or that he wouldn't have won if Wlad was prepared, but to use the two fights (Fury and Joshua) and how he fared against them as a comparable is stupid.
 
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That is what ultimately won the fight, but Klitschko wasn't prepared for it. There was no game plan, no preparation. He was in autopilot because that's all he had needed for so long. Fury was the first genuine fighter he had come up against in some time.

I'm not saying he didn't deserve to win the fight, or that he wouldn't have won if Wlad was prepared, but to use the two fights (Fury and Joshua) and how he fared against them as a comparable is stupid.

Well mate that's on Klitchko if he came unprepared. Historically Klitchko had issues with taller and heavier opponents (Wach fight for instance) he couldn't lean on and push them on the canvas.
 
Well mate that's on Klitchko if he came unprepared. Historically Klitchko had issues with taller and heavier opponents (Wach fight for instance) he couldn't lean on and push them on the canvas.
It is. I haven't said otherwise. All I was doing was responding to someone who compared the two fights to demonstrate how overrated Joshua is - which is wrong.
 
It is. I haven't said otherwise. All I was doing was responding to someone who compared the two fights to demonstrate how overrated Joshua is - which is wrong.

Joshua vs. Fury would be fun to wach! Make it happen Dan…ops, Eddie!
 
It's a stay busy fight. He's obviously nailed on to fight the GGG-Canelo II winner in the latter part of the year so picking a safe fight. Murray is slow, so Saunders can win 12-0. Jacobs was mentioned for April but Warren quickly said no he brings nothing to the table (too much risk for the reward).

Its got UD written all over it.
I like Murray but how many chances does he get?
 
That is what ultimately won the fight, but Klitschko wasn't prepared for it. There was no game plan, no preparation. He was in autopilot because that's all he had needed for so long. Fury was the first genuine fighter he had come up against in some time.

I'm not saying he didn't deserve to win the fight, or that he wouldn't have won if Wlad was prepared, but to use the two fights (Fury and Joshua) and how he fared against them as a comparable is stupid.
Well then what exactly was Wlad’s gameplan against Joshua?

When you’re as dominant as Wlad, you generally do the same things in every fight. Tyson knew that and he had the skillset to overcome it with relative ease.
 
Well then what exactly was Wlad’s gameplan against Joshua?

When you’re as dominant as Wlad, you generally do the same things in every fight. Tyson knew that and he had the skillset to overcome it with relative ease.
You really dont think he was better prepared for Joshua? You generally do, yes, until you lose, and then you reassess where you are and what you're doing.
 
You really dont think he was better prepared for Joshua? You generally do, yes, until you lose, and then you reassess where you are and what you're doing.
Nope, he’s fought the same way for the last 10+ years. The guy is an athlete of the highest order and anyone who knows him would say that he would never come in for a fight unprepared. He is an ultimate professional.
 
Wlad was unprepared for Fury in that he didn't have a clue how to deal with Fury's unoethodoxy. Klitschko like Joshua are straight up, up and down fighters. It was no coincidence he struggled, he was schooled.
 
Got tickets to Joshua fight and hotels are scandalous prices for that night (over 300 per person in shit hotels!)

Don't suppose anyone went the Takam fight and has any tips on hotels or whatever? I've not been Millenium Stadium and stayed since before new Wembley got opened so out the loop now with hotels etc there for big events.
 
Got tickets to Joshua fight and hotels are scandalous prices for that night (over 300 per person in shit hotels!)

Don't suppose anyone went the Takam fight and has any tips on hotels or whatever? I've not been Millenium Stadium and stayed since before new Wembley got opened so out the loop now with hotels etc there for big events.
Airbnb?
Might get lucky someone doesn’t realise what is happening
 
Airbnb?
Might get lucky someone doesn’t realise what is happening

Yeah they've all clocked on unfortunately mate. It's a right killer, I don't mind the Air BNB or independent places doing it, chain hotels like Premier Inn upping their rates to 500-600 quid is disgraceful though, should be a cap really.
 
Loos like Selby-Warrington has finally been made.

A couple of years ago i'd have given Warrington no chance but Selby has looked a bit flat in his last few fights. That said, i expect him to be up for this with some of the verbals that have been flying about.

Warrington's lack of power will make it hard work for him at this level.l
 
Found this quite witty

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/42829851


British cruiserweight Isaac Chamberlain has used rival Lawrence Okolie's local newspaper to advertise the 2016 Olympian as being available for work after their forthcoming fight.

The undefeated pair face one another at London's O2 Arena on 3 February.

Chamberlain, 23, took out a 'work wanted' advert in the Hackney Gazette.

Employers are told Okolie, at 6ft 5in, will be good at stacking shelves and after being knocked out by Chamberlain will be able to count to 10.

Chamberlain says he hopes the advert will help Okolie earn the money needed to follow the former's career at sold out venues around the world.

Okolie, 25, worked at McDonald's before breaking into the Great Britain boxing squad.

His previous role is noted in Chamberlain's advert under 'references', where a quote from company mascot Ronald McDonald reads: "Excelled in his position. It was good to have another clown around."

Hackney-born Okolie's last-16 exit at the Rio Games is also mocked, with the advert stating under 'previous experience': "Turned up at the Olympics, went home from the Olympics. Nice holiday though."

The bout will be Okolie's first at the top of the bill since turning professional early in 2017. He holds a record of seven wins from seven fights, while Chamberlain has nine wins from nine.
 
I think (like the rest of the world) that GGG won the previous match (although it was close), but not confident this time. GGG is getting old and Canelo is at the best age for a boxer. I think that it is a 50-50 match at this stage.
 
I think (like the rest of the world) that GGG won the previous match (although it was close), but not confident this time. GGG is getting old and Canelo is at the best age for a boxer. I think that it is a 50-50 match at this stage.
Yeah, that's how I see it. However, if GGG is able to start outworking Canelo early he should win by a similar margin this time. I think GGG looked a little nervous last time and grew into the fight and has his way but Canelo fought back enough to make it close down the stretch.

My feeling is that Canelo probably wins a decision but GGG probably wins the fight. I hope I am wrong and that it's scored impartially.
 
Yep. The only thing he needs to do different in training this time is better stamina work. The same game plan for the opening 4 rounds will see him coast it.
Thing is he bulked up a lot and that cost him some stamina but he had a good 10-15 lbs on GGG. Does he come in less bulky next time and does that affect him?
 
Yeah, that's how I see it. However, if GGG is able to start outworking Canelo early he should win by a similar margin this time. I think GGG looked a little nervous last time and grew into the fight and has his way but Canelo fought back enough to make it close down the stretch.

My feeling is that Canelo probably wins a decision but GGG probably wins the fight. I hope I am wrong and that it's scored impartially.
Nah, after Ward-Kovalev matches and the first GGG-Canelo match, I have lost all hope that a big fight might be scored correctly. It will be either a GGG knockout, or a Canelo win by points. I hope that GGG knows this and goes for a knock-out instead of trying to outpoint Canelo.
 
Canelo needs to come in lighter to enhance his chances. No need coming in heavier again as we already know he isn't putting GGG on the canvas.
 
Nah, after Ward-Kovalev matches and the first GGG-Canelo match, I have lost all hope that a big fight might be scored correctly. It will be either a GGG knockout, or a Canelo win by points. I hope that GGG knows this and goes for a knock-out instead of trying to outpoint Canelo.
Usyk-Briedis from this weekend was a big fight scored correctly and the travelling fighter won. It was close and clear and thankfully scored fairly but that's in Latvia. In America, I think you see more and more bad scorecards on a consistent basis in America. The Ward-Kovalev fights are examples of foul play.
 

:lol: when s**t talking goes wrong.


Probably all set up with the encouragement of Hearn and I'm sure Khan was happy to oblige. I don't think his comeback (especially this fight) has got people as interested as they hoped really. It's a good tune up fight and is fair enough but it's hardly one to get excited about. Khan may not be the best boxer ever but he's always good to watch and in against good opposition. This just seems a huge step backwards for people watching and this is probably a way to get them talking. Hearn has a habit of going the WWE route of promotion these days (except with AJ who sells fights normally.)

The highlight is Batman and Superman being there though.