RedFish
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Fury would be Joshua's biggest test by far, Wilder or no Wilder. Fury, minus belly would be faviurite for me.
Really? Klitschko was entirely disinterested at the point in his career when he fought Fury. His preparation against Joshua, however, was on an entirely different level. He knew it was his last shot against AJ and put everything into it. It's very, very noticeable.
That is what ultimately won the fight, but Klitschko wasn't prepared for it. There was no game plan, no preparation. He was in autopilot because that's all he had needed for so long. Fury was the first genuine fighter he had come up against in some time.I think it was Fury and his awkwardness, skill + length that made Klitchko look pedestrian in that fight. Also one thing that's very important is the fact that Klitchko was never known for his heart , to dig in, bite on the mouthpiece and go for a KO when he's losing the fight.
That is what ultimately won the fight, but Klitschko wasn't prepared for it. There was no game plan, no preparation. He was in autopilot because that's all he had needed for so long. Fury was the first genuine fighter he had come up against in some time.
I'm not saying he didn't deserve to win the fight, or that he wouldn't have won if Wlad was prepared, but to use the two fights (Fury and Joshua) and how he fared against them as a comparable is stupid.
It is. I haven't said otherwise. All I was doing was responding to someone who compared the two fights to demonstrate how overrated Joshua is - which is wrong.Well mate that's on Klitchko if he came unprepared. Historically Klitchko had issues with taller and heavier opponents (Wach fight for instance) he couldn't lean on and push them on the canvas.
It is. I haven't said otherwise. All I was doing was responding to someone who compared the two fights to demonstrate how overrated Joshua is - which is wrong.
It's a stay busy fight. He's obviously nailed on to fight the GGG-Canelo II winner in the latter part of the year so picking a safe fight. Murray is slow, so Saunders can win 12-0. Jacobs was mentioned for April but Warren quickly said no he brings nothing to the table (too much risk for the reward).
Well then what exactly was Wlad’s gameplan against Joshua?That is what ultimately won the fight, but Klitschko wasn't prepared for it. There was no game plan, no preparation. He was in autopilot because that's all he had needed for so long. Fury was the first genuine fighter he had come up against in some time.
I'm not saying he didn't deserve to win the fight, or that he wouldn't have won if Wlad was prepared, but to use the two fights (Fury and Joshua) and how he fared against them as a comparable is stupid.
You really dont think he was better prepared for Joshua? You generally do, yes, until you lose, and then you reassess where you are and what you're doing.Well then what exactly was Wlad’s gameplan against Joshua?
When you’re as dominant as Wlad, you generally do the same things in every fight. Tyson knew that and he had the skillset to overcome it with relative ease.
Nope, he’s fought the same way for the last 10+ years. The guy is an athlete of the highest order and anyone who knows him would say that he would never come in for a fight unprepared. He is an ultimate professional.You really dont think he was better prepared for Joshua? You generally do, yes, until you lose, and then you reassess where you are and what you're doing.
He's really good but I can't help but think Crawford takes him to school. Spence has no head movement and slow feet is a sucker for the right hand. He's great at mid range though and an accurate hard puncher.Errol
Airbnb?Got tickets to Joshua fight and hotels are scandalous prices for that night (over 300 per person in shit hotels!)
Don't suppose anyone went the Takam fight and has any tips on hotels or whatever? I've not been Millenium Stadium and stayed since before new Wembley got opened so out the loop now with hotels etc there for big events.
Airbnb?
Might get lucky someone doesn’t realise what is happening
Canelo’s gonna beat him up again
Yeah, that's how I see it. However, if GGG is able to start outworking Canelo early he should win by a similar margin this time. I think GGG looked a little nervous last time and grew into the fight and has his way but Canelo fought back enough to make it close down the stretch.I think (like the rest of the world) that GGG won the previous match (although it was close), but not confident this time. GGG is getting old and Canelo is at the best age for a boxer. I think that it is a 50-50 match at this stage.
Thing is he bulked up a lot and that cost him some stamina but he had a good 10-15 lbs on GGG. Does he come in less bulky next time and does that affect him?Yep. The only thing he needs to do different in training this time is better stamina work. The same game plan for the opening 4 rounds will see him coast it.
Nah, after Ward-Kovalev matches and the first GGG-Canelo match, I have lost all hope that a big fight might be scored correctly. It will be either a GGG knockout, or a Canelo win by points. I hope that GGG knows this and goes for a knock-out instead of trying to outpoint Canelo.Yeah, that's how I see it. However, if GGG is able to start outworking Canelo early he should win by a similar margin this time. I think GGG looked a little nervous last time and grew into the fight and has his way but Canelo fought back enough to make it close down the stretch.
My feeling is that Canelo probably wins a decision but GGG probably wins the fight. I hope I am wrong and that it's scored impartially.
Usyk-Briedis from this weekend was a big fight scored correctly and the travelling fighter won. It was close and clear and thankfully scored fairly but that's in Latvia. In America, I think you see more and more bad scorecards on a consistent basis in America. The Ward-Kovalev fights are examples of foul play.Nah, after Ward-Kovalev matches and the first GGG-Canelo match, I have lost all hope that a big fight might be scored correctly. It will be either a GGG knockout, or a Canelo win by points. I hope that GGG knows this and goes for a knock-out instead of trying to outpoint Canelo.
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