It's sad when society is the reason for the wealth and popularity of someone like Jake Paul.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran discuss a horrific month of December and a depressing FOUR defeats in a row - the latest coming against Wolves and Newcastle.
They discuss how much blame is on Ruben Amorim and rank our squad against other Premier League teams.
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It's sad when society is the reason for the wealth and popularity of someone like Jake Paul.
Tommy Fury fighting Darren Till in January. 
It might be time to create a thread for this genre, away from real boxing? One is a taint on the other, but the frequency of these bouts is increasing and it has solidified as a thing.Tommy Fury fighting Darren Till in January.
Yeah the mickey mouse boxing thread
You say that, but then you have Daniel Dubois DMing Jake Paul about fighting.
Mike was clearly pulling his punches, or outright not attempting them. Fight was rigged as hell.
This proves nothing and tragically, Paul was the one that was clearly pulling his punches throughout.
He probably just isn't able to pull the trigger anymore. Happens to most shot fighters.
I have no problem believing either explanation.
I have no problem believing either explanation.
Surprisingly he hasn’t taken up the offer of two world champions to fight them, guess ishowspeed will have to do!
The Zurdo-CBS fight was a great event and the whole card was pretty good (except Barbozzzzz-Ramirezzz). CBS has too much chin for his own good, he was mauled.
Ryan Garcia will do an exhib with R.Anpo (who fought Pacquaio in a similar bout) in Rizin for NYE. 8x2 rounds.
Ryan Garcia will do an exhib with R.Anpo (who fought Pacquaio in a similar bout) in Rizin for NYE. 8x2 rounds.
Should have been done ages ago. None of this shit is boxing.
More importantly Inoue has a proper fight on Xmas Eve
Exactly. There's history, aura and meanness and all that jazz, and then there's youth, power, vitality. Those who thought Tyson would win are probably the ones who were insisting Roy Keane would beat up Micah Richards in a fight.
So I’ve decided to watch some actual boxing on dazn. It’s actually refreshing after being forced to engage with that misfit boxing crap. I reckon @Fortitude is right, should have a separate thread
Always a surprise to see an athlete retire before 30 as Sunny Edwards did last night. I wonder whether it's permanent or whether he's just burnt out and needs a break after a series of tough fights, but he was obviously broken mentally speaking to his corner at the end of round 2.
Galal looked pretty good though despite this not being Sunny at his best and dominated - him Vs Teraji is an excellent fight assuming that happens next, and one that hopefully gets some attention.
Galal looked pretty good though despite this not being Sunny at his best and dominated - him Vs Teraji is an excellent fight assuming that happens next, and one that hopefully gets some attention.
Massive card announced for February in Saudi :
Bivol-Beterviev 2
Dubois-Parker
Adames-Sheeraz
Ortiz-Madrimov (and they claim Madrimov will also fight Bohachuk in 3 weeks)
C.Smith-Buatsi
Zhang-Kabayel
Shakur Stevenson- Floyd Schofield
Maybe some fights won't happen but this is two main cards worth of content crammed in one (I guess it won't be the event that will fix Saudi pacing).
Bivol-Beterviev 2
Dubois-Parker
Adames-Sheeraz
Ortiz-Madrimov (and they claim Madrimov will also fight Bohachuk in 3 weeks)
C.Smith-Buatsi
Zhang-Kabayel
Shakur Stevenson- Floyd Schofield
Maybe some fights won't happen but this is two main cards worth of content crammed in one (I guess it won't be the event that will fix Saudi pacing).
Does the story of Wladimir’s return have any legs? I wouldn’t mind seeing him one more time in the ring.
Ugh, no thanks... the guy's nearly 50.
Who would he even fight? Quite clearly he wouldn't be competitive with the top names at this stage.
Turki Al-Sheik said it out loud at that WBC presentation yesterday where he and Sulaiman unveiled their Boxing World Cup project.
I think it's seriously being explored.
I did think the build up to Fury - Usyk would've started in here by now. Is the interest in the fight low?
Im excited and up for it but I try not to think about to make it feel like fight night comes around sooner.
The aura that Fury once had has now gone.
Stunk the joint out vs N'ganno and sent to Button Moon by Usyk.
Will get a couple more paydays with Usyk 2 and probably Joshua then off to Celeb Jungleland.
Think Fury has a good chance if he can improve his stamina. Caused Usyk plenty of problems in the first fight but wasn't able to maintain any sort of pressure.
I would prefer Usyk to win, though. I really like him and trust that he will be more active and more generous to fans as champion.
I would prefer Usyk to win, though. I really like him and trust that he will be more active and more generous to fans as champion.
The age is definitely an issue. It's more nostalgic wishful thinking on my part than reasonable idea.
However
, even at 48, given his lifestyle, I guess he could get into pretty good shape relatively easy.Let's see what will happen in Usyk vs Fury 2. Because I cannot see him fight another Ukrainian. But maybe he would fancy a second shot at Fury or AJ. (I understand how ridiculous that sounds given his age/last professional match in 2017.)
Can’t wait for this fight.
Very strange how many are writing off Fury. The first fight wasn’t a one sided affair like some people have made out, not even close. If he’s more motivated for this one then it makes for a brilliant fight.
The age is definitely an issue. It's more nostalgic wishful thinking on my part than reasonable idea.
However
Let's see what will happen in Usyk vs Fury 2. Because I cannot see him fight another Ukrainian. But maybe he would fancy a second shot at Fury or AJ. (I understand how ridiculous that sounds given his age/last professional match in 2017.)
Yeah he's already said he wouldn't fight a Ukrainian - but he would be interested in the rematch v Fury or even a shot at Dubois. I don't think he should return - he didn't exactly retire at the top and that was a while ago now.
I can see Fury winning the rematch next week - hopefully then get the trilogy in 2025.
I’m shocked by the lack of build up, not just in here but in the media/society in general.
Maybe it shows the fragmentation of boxing over so many different broadcasters. Or maybe the misfit bullshit is finally catching up to boxings popularity
Oh ... either man could win Fury-Usyk 2.
I think the mystique of the first fight is gone considering they both seemed untouchable before then. It's no longer hypothetical, it happened. That first question has been answered and now weirdly, I don't think a lot of people on here have firm views on who will win.
Prior to the first fight, I thought Usyk would, but between rounds 3 and 6 Fury was beating him to the punch and catching him with ease, so with a focused Fury it's a toss up. One thing Usyk has that the other heavyweights don't is crazy cardio.
I do want Usyk to win and suspect he might, but I'm not as confident as I was first time.
Another factor in the publicity is I think Usyk is more broadly liked and if Fury won the first fight, he could play the pantomime villain and interest in the fight would naturally grow from people wanting to see him lose.
He's been humbled and is thus adopting a more focused approach. Usyk on the other hand is just a respectful guy and won't make too many noises outside the ring, so no one it too invested in seeing him lose.
I think the mystique of the first fight is gone considering they both seemed untouchable before then. It's no longer hypothetical, it happened. That first question has been answered and now weirdly, I don't think a lot of people on here have firm views on who will win.
Prior to the first fight, I thought Usyk would, but between rounds 3 and 6 Fury was beating him to the punch and catching him with ease, so with a focused Fury it's a toss up. One thing Usyk has that the other heavyweights don't is crazy cardio.
I do want Usyk to win and suspect he might, but I'm not as confident as I was first time.
Another factor in the publicity is I think Usyk is more broadly liked and if Fury won the first fight, he could play the pantomime villain and interest in the fight would naturally grow from people wanting to see him lose.
He's been humbled and is thus adopting a more focused approach. Usyk on the other hand is just a respectful guy and won't make too many noises outside the ring, so no one it too invested in seeing him lose.
Different but all the same impressive bouts from Jonas and Price last night. After this fight though, I hope Jonas retires. She has a media gig and she's 40.
Nice seeing both Dubois siblings as champions. I don't rate Daniel that highly if I'm honest but Caroline has looked impressive every time so far.
Nice seeing both Dubois siblings as champions. I don't rate Daniel that highly if I'm honest but Caroline has looked impressive every time so far.
The ad boards in this Brighton/Palace game are the first time I've been reminded that it's happening, and it's six days away.
Weird how there's seemingly no hype at all. There was far more noise around the last youtuber farce.
I suppose there's not much of a rivalry there to ramp up the excitement
Yeah, it's a bit strange from that angle as well. If Fury (and his camp) are good for anything, you'd have thought it'd be talking a load of shite to build up a fight.
I think he finds it probably harder than ever to get a rivalry going because of Usyk's personality and style, he can't get him riled up. I actually think he scares Fury a bit.
Guess it'll heat up midweek when they start the workouts etc.
I've read ringwalks will start around 10 but we'll see.
I've read ringwalks will start around 10 but we'll see.
So I have this theory: as the biggest prize in the sport has been bought and paid for, there is no longer a need for the Saudi’s to actively promote it. Their objective is not to appeal to the general masses as they have no need for eyes on the fights or better to say; how much money that can generate via PPV, gate etc. if the fights or had been going through normal boxing lore, it’d be promoted to the heavens because those involved would obviously want and need not only the recoup, but also actively and desperately seek the profit, which is normally why these blockbuster fights get made in the first place.
The Saudi’s are of the opinion that if you tune in, you’ll get the razzmatazz and the OTT performances/show before the fight, but if you don’t, oh well. In an ideal world, they get all the kudos and also turn a hefty profit, but in the interim, they’re comfortable with how things are, and so long as the show itself is a good/great one, the more they weave into the fabric of the sport.
Not sure there’s apathy for the fights or fighters, but without the heavy promotion, the fight won’t really create the gravitas this level of contest should.
Yep. It seems pretty clear that they have no need to go hunting for PPV buys like in previous years and the marketing/promotion budget has reflected that.
Probably been a blessing for the fighters too as they can concentrate more energy on getting ready for the fight.
I didn't realise (or had forgotten) that Froch is apparently a flat-earther. Was a reference in this Telegraph interview today, which linked to this, er Daily Star, story from 2019.
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