The Double Draft

Edgar Allan Pillow said:
This round is so defender heavy....why is no one going for midfielders?
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Because - in a reality draft - it is more easier to convince a good midfielder to be part of a 'project' when you have good defenders.

Moreover, midfielders need some reassurance and generally do appreciate a phone call from both the coach and the president.
 
DavidG said:
Class is 442 with those two as centre mid? Yes please

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Or a 4-3-3, a diamond or even a 3-5-2.

Hard to think of a system those two couldn't play - Redondo in particular played in a variety of set ups and was always well rounded and talented enough to make it work.

Hargreaves obviously played with Carrick and an aging Scholes as well so it's hard to see the point EAP was getting at - two technical players like Redondo but both inferior defensively and less well rounded.
 
Can someone post an updated list? On the phone now and it would be very helpful
 
Mazhar13 - 1. M Le Tissier 2. Gento 3. Sammer 4.
Joga bonito - 1. Carrick 2. Breitner 3. Facchetti 4.
Cal? - 1. M Scholl 2. Desailly 3. N Santos 4.
harms - 1. Éder Assis 2. Luis Suárez Miramontes 3. Cafu 4.
RedTiger/Marty - 1. A di Livio 2. K-H. Schnellinger 3. Lahm 4. F. Hierro
Tuppet - 1. B Schneider 2. Gullit 3. Passarella 4. D. Santos
P-Nut - 1. Ince 2. Batistuta 3. Baresi 4. Alaba
Chesterlestreet - 1. T. Motta 2. L. Thuram 3. Moore 4. J. Santamaría
DavidG - 1. Petit. 2. Hugo Sanchez 3. Maldini 4. Duncan Edwards
Sjor - 1. Camoranesi 2. Schweinsteiger 3. Krol 4. Ferdinand
Invictus - 1. O Hargreaves 2. Redondo 3. Nesta 4. Brehme
Enigma - 1. Ze Roberto 2. Rivaldo 3. Figueroa 4. Bergomi
Raees - 1. D Baggio 2. Figo 3. Vogts 4. Charles
Skizzo/Pat - 1. Solskjaer 2. Van Hanegem 3. Kohler 4. Zanetti
ctp - 1. Ginola 2. Netzer 3. Beckenbauer 4. Carlos Alberto
Downcast - 1. Wes Brown 2. Robben 3. Scirea 4. Roberto Carlos
 
Edgar Allan Pillow said:
Because I never rated either of those partnerships as something special or great.
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Well, I'd agree with that. But you can still team up Hargo with Redondo in several possible systems. You could field Hargo in his first and arguably most impressive incarnation - as an energetic hound/destroyer of sorts. Put Redondo alongside him as the string puller. Or do a diamond with Hargo in a Gattuso-ish role (energetic hound who's also capable of functioning as an actual wide midfielder).
 
Chesterlestreet said:
It's an arms race of sorts, I think.

For me, personally, it's more of a philosophy - I actually intend to park the bus in this draft. And park it well.
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That back-line of Santamaria, Moore and Thuram is going to be one heck of a tough nut to crack.

Edgar Allan Pillow said:
This round is so defender heavy....why is no one going for midfielders?
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The midfield DOFI pool is vast and certainly varied, from #10s to B2B midfielders, playmaking metronomens, holding midfielders and of course Ronaldinho... No point going for a midfielder (be it any sort) and then getting another similar, or worse, incompatible midfielder in the DOFI round.

No such issues or potential headaches, with defenders as everyone have gotten their DOFI one, and they can plan ahead without any potential troubles in the future (apart from the T-Bola that is but the auction rounds are there to draft in a similar reinforcement).
 
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Edgar Allan Pillow said:
Because I never rated either of those partnerships as something special or great.
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Neither did I. It's never going to be a special partnership because Hargreaves isn't a special player - neither is Carrick.

It still doesn't explain why those two wouldn't work together - given that they're two well rounded, defensively solid players.
 
Mazhar13 - 1. M Le Tissier 2. Gento 3. Sammer 4.
Joga bonito - 1. Carrick 2. Breitner 3. Facchetti 4.
Cal? - 1. M Scholl 2. Desailly 3. N Santos 4.
harms - 1. Éder Assis 2. Luis Suárez Miramontes 3. Cafu 4. J. Masopust
RedTiger/Marty - 1. A di Livio 2. K-H. Schnellinger 3. Lahm 4. F. Hierro
Tuppet - 1. B Schneider 2. Gullit 3. Passarella 4. D. Santos
P-Nut - 1. Ince 2. Batistuta 3. Baresi 4. Alaba
Chesterlestreet - 1. T. Motta 2. L. Thuram 3. Moore 4. J. Santamaría
DavidG - 1. Petit. 2. Hugo Sanchez 3. Maldini 4. Duncan Edwards
Sjor - 1. Camoranesi 2. Schweinsteiger 3. Krol 4. Ferdinand
Invictus - 1. O Hargreaves 2. Redondo 3. Nesta 4. Brehme
Enigma - 1. Ze Roberto 2. Rivaldo 3. Figueroa 4. Bergomi
Raees - 1. D Baggio 2. Figo 3. Vogts 4. Charles
Skizzo/Pat - 1. Solskjaer 2. Van Hanegem 3. Kohler 4. Zanetti
ctp - 1. Ginola 2. Netzer 3. Beckenbauer 4. Carlos Alberto
Downcast - 1. Wes Brown 2. Robben 3. Scirea 4. Roberto Carlos
 
Three more to go - let's do it.

I want that midfielder so I can decide whether to abandon my lofty scheme or not.
 
Not the wisest pick probably. Well, it's bound to happen when you are picking in the middle of a bachelor party. It's up to my luck at the moment. Plus the squad size allows as some space for maneuvering
 
Skizzo said:
You'll be waiting a while for midfielders yet, mate.
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Aye, just realized that. It sort of fecks up my...thing. Still, what it means is that I will go for my lofty scheme - and damn the consequences. The die is cast, as they say.
 
Mazhar13 - 1. M Le Tissier 2. Gento 3. Sammer 4.
Joga bonito - 1. Carrick 2. Breitner 3. Facchetti 4.
Cal? - 1. M Scholl 2. Desailly 3. N Santos 4. Cannavaro
harms - 1. Éder Assis 2. Luis Suárez Miramontes 3. Cafu 4. J. Masopust
RedTiger/Marty - 1. A di Livio 2. K-H. Schnellinger 3. Lahm 4. F. Hierro
Tuppet - 1. B Schneider 2. Gullit 3. Passarella 4. D. Santos
P-Nut - 1. Ince 2. Batistuta 3. Baresi 4. Alaba
Chesterlestreet - 1. T. Motta 2. L. Thuram 3. Moore 4. J. Santamaría
DavidG - 1. Petit. 2. Hugo Sanchez 3. Maldini 4. Duncan Edwards
Sjor - 1. Camoranesi 2. Schweinsteiger 3. Krol 4. Ferdinand
Invictus - 1. O Hargreaves 2. Redondo 3. Nesta 4. Brehme
Enigma - 1. Ze Roberto 2. Rivaldo 3. Figueroa 4. Bergomi
Raees - 1. D Baggio 2. Figo 3. Vogts 4. Charles
Skizzo/Pat - 1. Solskjaer 2. Van Hanegem 3. Kohler 4. Zanetti
ctp - 1. Ginola 2. Netzer 3. Beckenbauer 4. Carlos Alberto
Downcast - 1. Wes Brown 2. Robben 3. Scirea 4. Roberto Carlos

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Mazhar13 - 1. M Le Tissier 2. Gento 3. Sammer 4.
Joga bonito - 1. Carrick 2. Breitner 3. Facchetti 4. Burgnich
Cal? - 1. M Scholl 2. Desailly 3. N Santos 4. Cannavaro
harms - 1. Éder Assis 2. Luis Suárez Miramontes 3. Cafu 4. J. Masopust
RedTiger/Marty - 1. A di Livio 2. K-H. Schnellinger 3. Lahm 4. F. Hierro
Tuppet - 1. B Schneider 2. Gullit 3. Passarella 4. D. Santos
P-Nut - 1. Ince 2. Batistuta 3. Baresi 4. Alaba
Chesterlestreet - 1. T. Motta 2. L. Thuram 3. Moore 4. J. Santamaría
DavidG - 1. Petit. 2. Hugo Sanchez 3. Maldini 4. Duncan Edwards
Sjor - 1. Camoranesi 2. Schweinsteiger 3. Krol 4. Ferdinand
Invictus - 1. O Hargreaves 2. Redondo 3. Nesta 4. Brehme
Enigma - 1. Ze Roberto 2. Rivaldo 3. Figueroa 4. Bergomi
Raees - 1. D Baggio 2. Figo 3. Vogts 4. Charles
Skizzo/Pat - 1. Solskjaer 2. Van Hanegem 3. Kohler 4. Zanetti
ctp - 1. Ginola 2. Netzer 3. Beckenbauer 4. Carlos Alberto
Downcast - 1. Wes Brown 2. Robben 3. Scirea 4. Roberto Carlos


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Mazhar13 - 1. M Le Tissier 2. Gento 3. Sammer 4. Pirri
Joga bonito - 1. Carrick 2. Breitner 3. Facchetti 4. Burgnich
Cal? - 1. M Scholl 2. Desailly 3. N Santos 4. Cannavaro
harms - 1. Éder Assis 2. Luis Suárez Miramontes 3. Cafu 4. J. Masopust
RedTiger/Marty - 1. A di Livio 2. K-H. Schnellinger 3. Lahm 4. F. Hierro
Tuppet - 1. B Schneider 2. Gullit 3. Passarella 4. D. Santos
P-Nut - 1. Ince 2. Batistuta 3. Baresi 4. Alaba
Chesterlestreet - 1. T. Motta 2. L. Thuram 3. Moore 4. J. Santamaría
DavidG - 1. Petit. 2. Hugo Sanchez 3. Maldini 4. Duncan Edwards
Sjor - 1. Camoranesi 2. Schweinsteiger 3. Krol 4. Ferdinand
Invictus - 1. O Hargreaves 2. Redondo 3. Nesta 4. Brehme
Enigma - 1. Ze Roberto 2. Rivaldo 3. Figueroa 4. Bergomi
Raees - 1. D Baggio 2. Figo 3. Vogts 4. Charles
Skizzo/Pat - 1. Solskjaer 2. Van Hanegem 3. Kohler 4. Zanetti
ctp - 1. Ginola 2. Netzer 3. Beckenbauer 4. Carlos Alberto
Downcast - 1. Wes Brown 2. Robben 3. Scirea 4. Roberto Carlos
 
3 players here that i'm extremely happy with to potentially partner with hugo sanchez
 
Chesterlestreet said:
More like 6-3-1.

My dream is an ultra-defensive, yet strangely fluid - and thus pretty dangerous, attacking wise - formation. It requires just the right crew, though.
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We haven't seen many top calibre defensively focused XIs. Joga had a fearsome unit in the Euros draft, then replicated it in the last all-time draft, but even they were perhaps too attacking for your stingy tastes. Cutch has tried a couple over the years, but they've not carried much favour with the voters.
 
Gio said:
We haven't seen many top calibre defensively focused XIs. Joga had a fearsome unit in the Euros draft, then replicated it in the last all-time draft, but even they were perhaps too attacking for your stingy tastes. Cutch has tried a couple over the years, but they've not carried much favour with the voters.
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I had a fantastic defensive side in last auction draft. Lost in the second round but thats because of the manager, the team was great.
 
Gio said:
Cutch has tried a couple over the years, but they've not carried much favour with the voters.
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The last part is probably the likely fate of any attempt that is too defensive. You can get away with it up to a certain point, I suppose - but in the end you'll get punished by the voters if you take it to extremes.

It's an interesting concept in the sense that parking the bus - as a strategy - is highly doable even for rather shabby teams, as history has shown time and again. If you do it with top-of-the-line defenders (and assorted cynical/tactical bastards making up the rest of the team), you should be nigh-on unplayable even if you're up against top-of-the-line attackers.

At the very least the voters should deem you capable of a draw, and thus the - very realistic - possibility of going through on penalties.
 
Gio said:
We haven't seen many top calibre defensively focused XIs. Joga had a fearsome unit in the Euros draft, then replicated it in the last all-time draft, but even they were perhaps too attacking for your stingy tastes. Cutch has tried a couple over the years, but they've not carried much favour with the voters.
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EAP's manager draft winning side was the best defensive side I saw in drafts. The midfield of Desailly - Redondo - Rijkaard was incredible.
 
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