Yes. You and Enigma have the bones of potentially devastating set-ups.
The Double Draft
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Easily by me, at least.
I'd take Best over my man any day, for one thing. He offers something very few others can match in terms of sheer genius.
Vogts is one of a very small handful of absolutely, unquestionably GOAT style fullbacks. He's probably the best defender out of anyone in that bracket, and as such he may be the very best option around if you go for a certain kind of system.
Okay thanks for the feedback. Never been part of a proper all time type draft, so it is hard not to look around and feel a tad overwhelmed.
Easily, Vogts is top-tier when it comes to the defensive RB position and Best is simply the greatest winger/wing-forward of all time alongside Garrincha imo.
. Their partnership was truly ridiculous and it's a nice addition to the Facchetti-Burgnich combo too, but still wary of the T-Bola round so I'm not getting my hopes up yet.@mazhar13 Making your pick soon mate?
It hasn't been easy. I've been thinking quite a bit about my next move.
Mazhar13 - 1. M Le Tissier 2. Gento 3. Sammer 4. Pirri 5. Cristiano 6. Vierchowod
Joga bonito - 1. Carrick 2. Breitner 3. Facchetti 4. Burgnich 5. Kalle Rummenigge
Cal? - 1. M Scholl 2. Desailly 3. N Santos 4. Cannavaro 5. Cruyff
harms - 1. Éder Assis 2. Luis Suárez Miramontes 3. Cafu 4. J. Masopust 5. Messi
RedTiger/Marty - 1. A di Livio 2. K-H. Schnellinger 3. Lahm 4. F. Hierro 5. van Basten
Tuppet - 1. B Schneider 2. Gullit 3. Passarella 4. D. Santos 5. Romario
P-Nut - 1. Ince 2. Batistuta 3. Baresi 4. Alaba 5. Ronaldo (fenomeno)
Chesterlestreet - 1. T. Motta 2. L. Thuram 3. Moore 4. J. Santamaría 5. Baggio
DavidG - 1. Petit. 2. Hugo Sanchez 3. Maldini 4. Duncan Edwards 5. Gerd Muller
Sjor - 1. Camoranesi 2. Schweinsteiger 3. Krol 4. Ferdinand 5. Di Stefano
Invictus - 1. O Hargreaves 2. Redondo 3. Nesta 4. Brehme 5. Eusebio
Enigma - 1. Ze Roberto 2. Rivaldo 3. Figueroa 4. Bergomi 5. Pele
Raees - 1. D Baggio 2. Figo 3. Vogts 4. Charles 5. Best
Skizzo/Pat - 1. Solskjaer 2. Van Hanegem 3. Kohler 4. Zanetti 5. Henry
ctp - 1. Ginola 2. Netzer 3. Beckenbauer 4. Carlos Alberto 5. Garrincha
Downcast - 1. Wes Brown 2. Robben 3. Scirea 4. Roberto Carlos 5. Puskas
@Joga Bonito
I've picked Vogts in a draft before. Needless to say I think he's one of the best RB's in a all time pool.
Best is a great pick in terms of that he's one of the top wingers all time. I'm happy I didn't land him and Cristiano for the matter as the formations I have in mind I don't think they would be a good fit.
On the other hand Figo/Best on each side is IMO the best winger pair in the draft so you have a great set up as it is.
With so many good wingers about, a defensive side back like Vogts will be worth his weight in gold.
Big Charles playing target man to Figo and Best is just
. You can get a pivot and play 433 or go for standard 4231.Who's been luckiest so far in terms of the DofF picks?
Figueroa/Pele looks absolutely ridiculous for Enigma, as does Beckenbauer/Garrincha and Baresi/Ronaldo for ctp and P-Nut.
I reckon that's my top three.
Figueroa/Pele looks absolutely ridiculous for Enigma, as does Beckenbauer/Garrincha and Baresi/Ronaldo for ctp and P-Nut.
I reckon that's my top three.
With so many good wingers about, a defensive side back like Vogts will be worth his weight in gold.
Big Charles playing target man to Figo and Best is just
What about Charles at CB?
Please don't.
noooo
In the all time fantasy draft he played in the final at cb. When did opinion turn on this..
The bold line has been added to OP just to make things explicit. No changes to rules.
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Well, hope I can keep both of them with Tevezbola looming, because all 3 pools are pretty fantastic so losing a DoF player would be a big hit, I'd say those who won't lose one of the star players will be the luckiest.
I've read some articles about him.
Some consider him as great stopper and some as a great target striker.
He is versatile, but his peak was at CF imo. More popular and well known there iirc.
If you plan to play him at CB better make sure you have enough sources to prove his abilities there. There are few articles quoted, but you need to make a complete case imo.
Mazhar13 - 1. M Le Tissier 2. Gento 3. Sammer 4. Pirri 5. Cristiano 6. Vierchowod
Joga bonito - 1. Carrick 2. Breitner 3. Facchetti 4. Burgnich 5. Kalle Rummenigge 6. Rivelino
Cal? - 1. M Scholl 2. Desailly 3. N Santos 4. Cannavaro 5. Cruyff
harms - 1. Éder Assis 2. Luis Suárez Miramontes 3. Cafu 4. J. Masopust 5. Messi
RedTiger/Marty - 1. A di Livio 2. K-H. Schnellinger 3. Lahm 4. F. Hierro 5. van Basten
Tuppet - 1. B Schneider 2. Gullit 3. Passarella 4. D. Santos 5. Romario
P-Nut - 1. Ince 2. Batistuta 3. Baresi 4. Alaba 5. Ronaldo (fenomeno)
Chesterlestreet - 1. T. Motta 2. L. Thuram 3. Moore 4. J. Santamaría 5. Baggio
DavidG - 1. Petit. 2. Hugo Sanchez 3. Maldini 4. Duncan Edwards 5. Gerd Muller
Sjor - 1. Camoranesi 2. Schweinsteiger 3. Krol 4. Ferdinand 5. Di Stefano
Invictus - 1. O Hargreaves 2. Redondo 3. Nesta 4. Brehme 5. Eusebio
Enigma - 1. Ze Roberto 2. Rivaldo 3. Figueroa 4. Bergomi 5. Pele
Raees - 1. D Baggio 2. Figo 3. Vogts 4. Charles 5. Best
Skizzo/Pat - 1. Solskjaer 2. Van Hanegem 3. Kohler 4. Zanetti 5. Henry
ctp - 1. Ginola 2. Netzer 3. Beckenbauer 4. Carlos Alberto 5. Garrincha
Downcast - 1. Wes Brown 2. Robben 3. Scirea 4. Roberto Carlos 5. Puskas
@Cal?
Enigma_87 and ctp without a doubt, but in terms of overall fit with other picks, Joga wins.
was over the moon when i got Alfredo but now im looking at the DofF midfield pool and most players there will be be tough to pair up with him
was over the moon when i got Alfredo but now im looking at the DofF midfield pool and most players there will be be tough to pair up with him
Yeah. Nuts to whoever nominated AdS as a forward. You should be OK with the deeper ones, Rijkaard, Neeskens, Didi, Keane, Falcao.
Though I'd love it if you get Platini!
Date? What you mean is that every up-bid must be at least ten mill higher than the standing one - correct?
And since we're on the subject: I take it, given there's no upper limit to how many players you can buy (other than the one implied by the budget, of course), that you can keep adding new players to the auction as you please?
Example: I enter a GK, bidding 20m as per default. Someone else ups it to 30m. I enter a new GK, bidding 20m - and so forth. In theory I can keep doing this until nobody ups my bid - right?
Isn't it supposed to be that you set up an auction pool at the initial bidding process? That's what I thought would happen.
Everyone would make their initial bids, and after that, we are only limited to the players who were bidded on.
Though I'd love it if you get Platini!
tevezobola to the rescue
@Chesterlestreet
his post was response to my question so i can give you an answer. This is the right version of updated rules:
A01 - $210m budget with minimum 7 players to be picked.
A03 - Players born before 01-Jan-1945 will have minimum starting bid of $20m. After that date it'll be $10m minimum.
A04 - GoalKeeper's start off minimum bid of $20m.
A05 - 12 hrs without up-bid to be successful.
A06 - $2m minimum up-bid for first 8 hours. $5m minimum up-bid for last 4 hours.
Ah, yes - of course. The d.o.b thing - I got the two categories mixed up there.
Oops, blame it on the beer.
It's supposed to be for rule A03. Previous 1945 will be 20m and post will be 10m.
All GKs will be 20m by default.
Yes, you can keep adding to the pool. I'll put a halt if the list becomes unmanageable, but apart from that you can keep nominating if others outbid you.
Excellent - thanks.
On the same note, it could easily get a bit chaotic - there will be loads of players involved and people will probably be posting on top of each other like crazy to begin with.
Should be good fun, though.
I'll make a set of soft guidelines before the auction starts. Something like nominate 2 players or less, do not nominate if list is more than 40 players and the like. More to keep auctions manageable and not a draft rule per se.
Yeah, I hope it'll be fun... And I hope managers are evil enough to push up prices for rivals and not just nominate new.
Do you think a nomination cap of 10 players per manager makes sense in auction? Just to encourage up bid and restrict nominating new.
tevezobola to the rescue
You're after all dealing with fecking FIFA baby! Nothing is fair.
I think it's better to limit the number of active players per manager. Then every manager would have up to 3/4/5 players on the auction block that they've nominated, and once one of them is sold they can select a new one. It keeps the list manageable and adds some tactical depth to the whole thing.
Your suggestion would mean a maximum of 160 players simultaneously, that seems like too much to keep track of.
pele, puskas, Ronaldo, Messi...We get Henry
Haven't participated in such a draft before but would there be realistically more than 10 players you can bid on at the same time, especially having in mind if you go over you can lose a player? I think it's a good idea to cap it somehow otherwise(potentially) it would be 160 players list which would be hard to organize.
I'd rather have a clear restriction on how many bids can be active at any given time: The auction phase will have to take some time anyway, given that everyone needs seven players.
A cap won't necessarily lead to more interesting bidding wars, IMO - the latter depends entirely on what people need, and that's impossible to predict since T-bola can strike in any sort of fashion.
I predict there will be considerable interest in a relatively small group of "best of the rest" players - and that's where the bidding wars will happen: A cap won't affect this one way or the other, as these will be the sort of players who can secure you a proper edge, so simply nominating someone else won't cut it - you either bid till you die or you lose out on that edge.
A cap could potentially mean that you lose your chance to secure even a bare minimum of what you need to be properly competitive (again, this depends entirely on how badly T-bola hits you) - and that strikes me as too harsh: If you regard the auction in isolation, all kinds of caps, limitations and whatnot makes sense - because it makes it edgier and more difficult. But the auction isn't the end of the draft - and as such I would lean towards letting people nominate freely: This should mean that you'll, at the very least, get your Plan B or C sorted before going into the knockout stage. If you don't get that - well, you'll just lose all hope and motivation, and that can't be a good thing for the draft as such.
Our final with Edgar in Manager's draft would've been probably a very dull match in reality - even with the likes of Baggio and Batigol in my side and MVB and Gullit for Edgar 0:0 was the most likely result (plus the manager's approach, which should've been counted in that draft, with Trapp and Capello)
Are you serious?
Personally I loved the side Me, Skizzo and Pat put together.
How is Gerd muller rated here ?
As a pretty much the best pure striker in history