I'm also wondering if I should take my chances of the DOF picks or not.
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They can't be, surely. If they are, I've miscalculated pretty badly.
ETA Going for the top youth players straight away would be a no-brainer if they're immune to t-bola.
Well legacy players are since they have to be fielded was wondering if youth players also are? I have miscalculated as well, as I misread it that you only have to have a youth player in the team.
Its getting a bit confusing, can you take the youth player now ? My understanding was that you have to pick (atleast) a youth player in auction round, and THAT (or one of those) player must play in round 1.
If I pick a youth player now, do I not have to pick one in auctions round ? Also does he count toward the first round youth player requirement ?
@Edgar Allan Pillow
If I pick a youth player now, do I not have to pick one in auctions round ? Also does he count toward the first round youth player requirement ?
@Edgar Allan Pillow
Yes, you run tha risk.
GKs are not immune. You lose then you have to recover with auction/reinforcements
Both Legacy and youth must play in R1. In fact I'm going to make the 1 youth (minimum) as a permanent criteria for all rounds.
If he is t-bola'd then you have to replace in auction. If not, then you may choose to add one more in auction, but not mandatory.
Youth player is mandatory. I just relaxed the rules to allow picking in snake if you are willing to him in risk T-bola.
That's how I took it too: Buying a youth player is obligatory as per the rules, unless I'm mistaken. So, either that rule has to be abandoned - or you have to buy a youth player regardless of whether you've already drafted one (which seems pointless enough, but there you go).
This is the source of the confusion, Ed.
The question is: If you manage to draft a youth player (like Alaba above) regularly, and he survives t-bola, do you still have to pick up a youth player in the auction?
Missed this - alright, that settles that.
The rule should be updated, though - it's possible to misunderstand it as it stands.
We have a youth player who has to be part of the starting 11.
Is it possible to acquire him before the start of the bidding process?
Is it possible to acquire him before the start of the bidding process?
I think that should've been underlined from the beginning as there aren't that many youth players that wouldn't look out of sorts in final rounds in an all time draft and would've made sense to take a risk with the first picks so that you get one of them.
Your call of course
Just to clarify , youth player born after 1990 does that mean anyone from Jan 1st 1991 ?
No need to. You need to have 1 youth player in R1 as per current rules.
Yes, provided he survives t-bola.
Very good.
But, like I said, the fact that bidding for a youth player in the auction is described as mandatory (in the OP) is potentially confusing.
Should just say that fielding a youth player in R1 is mandatory - how you land him is your own business, etc.
no mate, born on 1st of Jan 1990 or younger.
Thanks pal
Also the change to rules to feature a (atleast) youth player in all rounds is effective now ? Should be included in OP if it is. @Edgar Allan Pillow
Cheers. I saw Edgar made changes to the OP and I think it's clear now.
I think you're in danger of changing too many rules now mate.
If the youth player is now mandatory for the entire draft then that makes him a much bigger priority pick and I imagine a number of managers would have prioritised it more.
Yep .
Seconded - or thirded, rather.
If the motive is simply to feck with people, then I can understand it - and, well, fair enough: Fecking with people is always fun.
But in general it's not a good idea to make significant rule changes well into the draft - unless there's a very good reason for it. And that doesn't seem to be the case here. The youth players who won't be considered liabilities/too underwhelming in later rounds are very few and everyone knows who they are: I don't see anything very interesting resulting from introducing this change. *
* By which I mean that by the looks of it you'll either get one of the very few who won't be a de facto sheep soon enough – or you don't. Which is very much a black/white type of thing: If you don't have that player, you can't do anything to compensate for it as such, you just have to hope your opponent has a generally worse team, so that your sheep won't be that decisive. The deeper into the tournament we get, the more true the above will be.
As for reinforcements/injuries, it seems very clear cut: If you already have one of the very few, you won't be able to upgrade him (to introduce a fresh element into your team) and you're unlikely to be able to replace him (in the event of an injury), meaning the latter becomes a “you're fecked” scenario rather than a “you have to come up with something” type of situation.
So, yeah – it would be a curve ball, obviously, but one you potentially can't do anything with (which makes it less interesting, one could argue).
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I agree with @Chesterlestreet & @Theon .
Not a good idea to change a rule in the middle of the process.
Not a good idea to change a rule in the middle of the process.
Not his best performance tbf, I needed to highlight his ability to play on the right at Euros. Probably the most time-consuming draft for me, I still have probably hours of edited footage most of which wasn't accepted by YouTube (feckers
)No change.
Let's pick up the pace guys (not directed at anyone and I understand that there are discussions ongoing about certain rules).
Indeed and it's a travesty that his WC 1990 final performance hasn't been compiled yet. Nevertheless, @Invictus always has this to fall back on
Not his best performance tbf, I needed to highlight his ability to play on the right at Euros. Probably the most time-consuming draft for me, I still have probably hours of edited footage most of which wasn't accepted by YouTube (feckers
Indeed and it's a travesty that his WC 1990 final performance hasn't been compiled yet. Nevertheless, @Invictus always has this to fall back on
Yep, that Internazionale comp. was my video of choice. But felt compelled to highlight harms' Youtube trove. If any one wants lawn mover vids. for future drafts, that's the go-to channel.
Djalma Santos
Mazhar13 - 1. M Le Tissier 2. Gento 3. Sammer 4.
Joga bonito - 1. Carrick 2. Breitner 3. Facchetti 4.
Cal? - 1. M Scholl 2. Desailly 3. N Santos 4.
harms - 1. Éder Assis 2. Luis Suárez Miramontes 3. Cafu 4.
RedTiger/Marty - 1. A di Livio 2. K-H. Schnellinger 3. Lahm 4.
Tuppet - 1. B Schneider 2. Gullit 3. Passarella 4. D. Santos
P-Nut - 1. Ince 2. Batistuta 3. Baresi 4. Alaba
Chesterlestreet - 1. T. Motta 2. L. Thuram 3. Moore 4. J. Santamaría
DavidG - 1. Petit. 2. Hugo Sanchez 3. Maldini 4. Duncan Edwards
Sjor - 1. Camoranesi 2. Schweinsteiger 3. Krol 4. Ferdinand
Invictus - 1. O Hargreaves 2. Redondo 3. Nesta 4. Brehme
Enigma - 1. Ze Roberto 2. Rivaldo 3. Figueroa 4. Bergomi
Raees - 1. D Baggio 2. Figo 3. Vogts 4. Charles
Skizzo/Pat - 1. Solskjaer 2. Van Hanegem 3. Kohler 4. Zanetti
ctp - 1. Ginola 2. Netzer 3. Beckenbauer 4. Carlos Alberto
Downcast - 1. Wes Brown 2. Robben 3. Scirea 4. Roberto Carlos
@RedTiger @Marty1968
Mazhar13 - 1. M Le Tissier 2. Gento 3. Sammer 4.
Joga bonito - 1. Carrick 2. Breitner 3. Facchetti 4.
Cal? - 1. M Scholl 2. Desailly 3. N Santos 4.
harms - 1. Éder Assis 2. Luis Suárez Miramontes 3. Cafu 4.
RedTiger/Marty - 1. A di Livio 2. K-H. Schnellinger 3. Lahm 4.
Tuppet - 1. B Schneider 2. Gullit 3. Passarella 4. D. Santos
P-Nut - 1. Ince 2. Batistuta 3. Baresi 4. Alaba
Chesterlestreet - 1. T. Motta 2. L. Thuram 3. Moore 4. J. Santamaría
DavidG - 1. Petit. 2. Hugo Sanchez 3. Maldini 4. Duncan Edwards
Sjor - 1. Camoranesi 2. Schweinsteiger 3. Krol 4. Ferdinand
Invictus - 1. O Hargreaves 2. Redondo 3. Nesta 4. Brehme
Enigma - 1. Ze Roberto 2. Rivaldo 3. Figueroa 4. Bergomi
Raees - 1. D Baggio 2. Figo 3. Vogts 4. Charles
Skizzo/Pat - 1. Solskjaer 2. Van Hanegem 3. Kohler 4. Zanetti
ctp - 1. Ginola 2. Netzer 3. Beckenbauer 4. Carlos Alberto
Downcast - 1. Wes Brown 2. Robben 3. Scirea 4. Roberto Carlos
@RedTiger @Marty1968
Djalma Santos
Mazhar13 - 1. M Le Tissier 2. Gento 3. Sammer 4.
Joga bonito - 1. Carrick 2. Breitner 3. Facchetti 4.
Cal? - 1. M Scholl 2. Desailly 3. N Santos 4.
harms - 1. Éder Assis 2. Luis Suárez Miramontes 3. Cafu 4.
RedTiger/Marty - 1. A di Livio 2. K-H. Schnellinger 3. Lahm 4.
Tuppet - 1. B Schneider 2. Gullit 3. Passarella 4. D. Santos
P-Nut - 1. Ince 2. Batistuta 3. Baresi 4. Alaba
Chesterlestreet - 1. T. Motta 2. L. Thuram 3. Moore 4. J. Santamaría
DavidG - 1. Petit. 2. Hugo Sanchez 3. Maldini 4. Duncan Edwards
Sjor - 1. Camoranesi 2. Schweinsteiger 3. Krol 4. Ferdinand
Invictus - 1. O Hargreaves 2. Redondo 3. Nesta 4. Brehme
Enigma - 1. Ze Roberto 2. Rivaldo 3. Figueroa 4. Bergomi
Raees - 1. D Baggio 2. Figo 3. Vogts 4. Charles
Skizzo/Pat - 1. Solskjaer 2. Van Hanegem 3. Kohler 4. Zanetti
ctp - 1. Ginola 2. Netzer 3. Beckenbauer 4. Carlos Alberto
Downcast - 1. Wes Brown 2. Robben 3. Scirea 4. Roberto Carlos
@RedTiger @Marty1968
Wait, Hargreaves and Redondo in the same team?
Going for both Nilton and Djalma?
Was so close to reuniting them too as neither harms nor Redtiger would have probably picked him.
Going for both Nilton and Djalma?
Exactly, with Lahm & Cafu it would have been highly unlikely.
To do so, it would be great if you could collect the picks of harms & Cal? - if they won't be online the next hours - for example
Would be really interesting to see how they are fit together. I'd paired both with a Keane type player as against each other.
I should be around for a while yet, will send you my pick if it's not my turn by the time I leave.
This round is so defender heavy....why is no one going for midfielders?
It's because you don't know what kind of DoF player you're going to get. No such mystery with defenders. You can be sure the next round will be almost exclusively attackers, plus maybe some going for a third defender.