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Bielsa still existsDid he implement tiki taka at Barcelona? We're best at chaos football. We need a nutcase of a manager, it's a shame Roy Keane has mellowed.
Bielsa still existsDid he implement tiki taka at Barcelona? We're best at chaos football. We need a nutcase of a manager, it's a shame Roy Keane has mellowed.
No to mention at this point I'd take anyone "failing like Ole", i.e, finishing 2nd and 3rd while scoring goals in a heartbeat.I really need someone to explain this one to me without making silly comparisons such as Ole. And I should insist on the fact that I'm not really interested in Xavi or anyone else.
Xavi took over a mess and won the league, he is the one that either introduced or developed nearly all the kids that are currently shining and where shining with him and for Spain. Also for the Flick current love, Xavi has had similar periods with Barcelona in 2022-2023. To me he seems to be naive when it comes to big fixtures but he didn't fail with Barcelona and he is one of the big reasons they didn't totally collapse after the financial scandals because he relied on kids without issue.
please keep focusing on the real problem.
To be fair to McKenna, he has taken Ipswich from League One to the PL in 2 years, without major investment. To even be in the PL is beyond ridiculous. They made some signings in the summer, but their squad is miles off being PL quality. The only reason they are even in the league is because of the massive overachievement of their coach. The fact they aren’t bottom is achievement enough, and then you look at them having played Liverpool, city and Villa in their first 9 games. Getting 4 draws and 5 losses.Whilst I can see where you are coming from, I agree that McKenna has done well so far but managing United and Ipswich is completely different.
We can see it this season, its the same problems they had at United as coaches, defensive issues.
Both Carrick and McKenna, struggle to set teams up defensively, look at the goals Ipswich are conceding, Middlesborough are a mid table championship club that concede goals. Neither would do well at United.
they couldn’t get anyone they liked and firing him and hiring the wrong bloke is a far worse look than giving him time. i don’t think ineos did much wrong and they’ve acted a lot quicker this season than i thought they would. they need to start proving themselves now though.Let me first say: thank feck he's gone.
Next: the question has to be asked: why the hell wasn't he sacked earlier? And by earlier I mean last season.
Letting him go after the FA Cup final would have been perfect for all parties. And this was hardly an outlandish idea at the time. Many of us were in favour of it - a decent exit for yet another "manager" who didn't quite work out...on a high note, at that.
Would have made perfect sense - new owners, new plan, new "structure" - and so forth.
Why the feck was he kept on?
And when it became obvious - to my blind granny's blind dog - that he would never turn anything around in a millions years...that would have been in late August, I guess, around there...why the feck didn't they give it to Ruud (or whoever) then? Did they not see what my blind granny's blind dog saw?
This is a good day in the sense that ETH is - finally - gone. That feels good to many of us. But it's not a grand day, it's not - by any stretch of the imagination - a new dawn. We are run by people who decided to let ETH make an utter fool of himself before - finally - sacking him. Mock Ezza ten Hazza all you want (I don't like him), but please keep focusing on the real problem.
That really is the key. Had we signed the likes of Kane, Palmer and Declan Rice instead, I'm pretty sure it would have worked out. Some of these players are so good that it would have made up for any tactical deficiencies. Whatever happens next, recruitment really has to be top notch going forward.Sadly coming a long time. Ideally summer it should have happened, leave on a high after cup final but 8th in the league is deplorable.
Erik got rid of a lot of rotten eggs. Can see in the likes of David de Geas tweet, we had a lot of spoilt brats.
Problems for Erik were he signed dogshit players (although he had no real support in the signings so had no choice) and when the going got tough, he was too stubborn to adapt or change how we played. Effectively having us play like a bottom half team in pressing hard and trying to counter, which kept failing anyway.
Wish him the best, think he will do well at a club further down the road than us in terms of structure and stability - he was setup to fail here regardless like all managers post Fergie
Christ. That makes for dire reading. Just shows how poor our managerial recruitment has been in the past eleven years.PL games was posted up by the PL themselves today.
they couldn’t get anyone they liked and firing him and hiring the wrong bloke is a far worse look than giving him time. i don’t think ineos did much wrong and they’ve acted a lot quicker this season than i thought they would. they need to start proving themselves now though.
So, in terms of points per game:PL games was posted up by the PL themselves today.
Generally I think Cruyff is credited as being the first one to introduce it to Barca. So it goes back quite a ways and has since obv been used and perfected under other managers.
Did you expect him to jet off to Las Vegas?even his destination after getting sacked is boring.
To be fair to McKenna, he has taken Ipswich from League One to the PL in 2 years, without major investment. To even be in the PL is beyond ridiculous. They made some signings in the summer, but their squad is miles off being PL quality. The only reason they are even in the league is because of the massive overachievement of their coach. The fact they aren’t bottom is achievement enough, and then you look at them having played Liverpool, city and Villa in their first 9 games. Getting 4 draws and 5 losses.
Yes, they have defensive issues, but a huge part of that is just a massive gulf in player quality. I’m not advocating for McKenna to be United manager. He isn’t ready. But he can’t be bashed for how Ipswich have done in the PL. By all rights they shouldn’t even be there if it weren’t for him.
none of them are idiots. they don’t get to where they are by being stupid. all they’ve done is takeover business basics really. now they don’t have any excuses for getting it wrong.You give them more credit than I do.
But I hope you're right.
If you want to be literal about the introduction of the term yes, but as you basically said the groundwork/underpinnings of it lie with Cruyff. Pep made it what it is today.No. Tiki Taka is from the 2000s and it describes how Spain played which was then used and improved by Guardiola. Cruyff is credited with the introduction to Total Football.
i’d expect him going and soaking up the last bit of mediterranean sun at worst. 10-day lady boy thailand bender at best.Did you expect him to jet off to Las Vegas?
What is the real problem?.
In Arteta's defense, he has been competing with Pep and cheating City so it hasn't exactly been fair. If RvN can get us to play like Arsenal and compete for the title every year, I'll be more than happy. Not sure what more we can hope for. Being a regular title winner in current PL is unrealistic.Should have higher hopes than that. Has won one trophy in five seasons with Arsenal and whenever they play a decent team and are lucky enough to take the lead he choose to park the bus and hopes it's enough to win.
Good post. I wouldn’t want Xavi because simply put, I’m not sure our squad is suited to how he’d want to play but to objectively call his time at Barca a failure without any context is wrong.I really need someone to explain this one to me without making silly comparisons such as Ole. And I should insist on the fact that I'm not really interested in Xavi or anyone else.
Xavi took over a mess and won the league, he is the one that either introduced or developed nearly all the kids that are currently shining and were shining with him and for Spain. Also for the Flick current love, Xavi has had similar periods with Barcelona in 2022-2023. To me he seems to be naive when it comes to big fixtures but he didn't fail with Barcelona and he is one of the big reasons they didn't totally collapse after the financial scandals because he relied on kids without issue.
The roof at Old Trafford is leaking.
Granted, it's only a real problem when it's raining.
I think it has to do with the fact that their squad wasn’t in a mess when he took over. They were and still are a mess financially but not when it comes to their squad. Same reason Slot found it easy to transition - squad is very good.I really need someone to explain this one to me without making silly comparisons such as Ole. And I should insist on the fact that I'm not really interested in Xavi or anyone else.
Xavi took over a mess and won the league, he is the one that either introduced or developed nearly all the kids that are currently shining and were shining with him and for Spain. Also for the Flick current love, Xavi has had similar periods with Barcelona in 2022-2023. To me he seems to be naive when it comes to big fixtures but he didn't fail with Barcelona and he is one of the big reasons they didn't totally collapse after the financial scandals because he relied on kids without issue.
I cannot see how fixing a leaking roof will improve how our players play... maybe when they play away they miss the leaking roof, so they leak goals instead?
Firstly, I think the sacking was long overdue. ETH was out of his depth, of course.
But the lack of support for the manager as a theme has been consistent and has passed on as a trait from Glazers to INEOS. For instance, the way EtH was treated by the media immediately before and after the cup final, where we were publicly looking for alternatives behind his back, where the club did nothing to support/protect the manager from disgraceful questions and reports which would surely have affected morale and undermined his authority behind closed doors. Even of the money spent this summer, we only brought in Zirkzee as a goalscorer - after we officially let go of Sancho, Pellistri, and Greenwood. Our defence has improved as a result, but our goals scored remains abysmal - EtH could have clearly done better with what he had, but how much better? Whoever comes in next inherits the goalscoring problem.
The dithering has been inherited, too. If it was indeed determined that the manager was not up to the task, why did it take so long to fire him? Why not earlier in the last break, or even earlier in the summer, when there was clearly enough concern to go shopping elsewhere, and better options were available? What actual benefit was there to keeping him for the additional month, even if you wanted to give INEOS any benefit of doubt.
Now, there's time for INEOS to turn things around - but apart from part of the transfer business this summer (planning for the future with the profile/quality of Yoro, De Ligt, Ugarte), INEOS, so far, have displayed some very familiar systemic deficiences. I hope they turn it around in the way they handle the much more difficult task of appointing EtH's successor.
That...doesn't work (it doesn't work as a joke either, sorry).
No, the angle would be different in that case. What you’re thinking of is the Qian Bai, a striking technique in Chinese Martial arts. What probably happened was that your uncle was trying to teach you praying mantis kung fu style, but as he struck, you turned around in fear, and the rest is history.i thought it’s how you start easing your forearm into someone. at least that’s how my uncle showed me.
Christ. That makes for dire reading. Just shows how poor our managerial recruitment has been in the past eleven years.
yup. It just goes to show how he was the GOAT.Or shows how much extra SAF gave us.
Martinez, Hojlund, Onana, Yoro, Mazraoui can be used by any manaer. Ugarte, De Light need to improve a lot. Eriksen as a backup. The rest can just feck off.Antony
Casemiro
Martinez
Malacia
Eriksen
Hojlund
Mount
Onana
Turkish keeper
Yoro
Ugarte
De Ligt
Zirkzee
Mazraoui
How many of those does a new manager keep and use?
Aligns with everything we've heard up to now, that INEOS want a head coach rather than a managerProbably already mentioned but it’s interesting in the statement how he is the outgoing ‘Manager’ whilst Ruud and the search is for a ‘head coach’
I think it's clear that the next manager won't have anything like the same sort of say over transfers as Ten Hag enjoyed. I seem to recall it being reported in the summer that Ineos wanting to change his title from 'manager' to 'head coach' (or similar) was the reason that a new contract couldn't be agreed. Instead they just triggered an extension in his existing deal. Obviously this is the right decision long-term, assuming the new upper management can get things right. The amount of money that's been wasted on shite just because Ten Hag had previously managed them is criminal.Probably already mentioned but it’s interesting in the statement how he is the outgoing ‘Manager’ whilst Ruud and the search is for a ‘head coach’