he’ll secretly be relieved. nothing he tried worked and by god did he try the one and only thing he knew for 2 and a half years. he’ll be on tv in 6 months, looking a decade younger, with a full head of hair.
Agreed, felt like he was out of ideas and ways he could change things by the end.
I'm actually surprised they did it now. The last game wasn't really something that I thought would trigger it. For me it is the right decision, and at least puts an end to the constant when will they sack him saga. Really should have been at the end of last season though. Hopefully Rudd does well, but I don't want a repeat of the Ole situation where we gift him the job if he does decent this season.
Yep. This was a very unexpected though not unwelcome timing.
So they waited 3 more games after the international break then sacked him, this is three weeks late (more like 4-5 months late) and we’ve now missed out on the perfect person to steady the ship and who wouldn’t have accepted the piss poor effort from the players in Tuchel.
I don’t believe for a second that there’s any difference money wise in sacking ETH now to what there was before the break and it just smacks of dithering incompetence on Ineos part, it’s 100% the right decision BUT far too late as we’re in a horrible position money wise and allowed more ETH signings in during the summer when he should have parted on good terms and on a high after the cup final.
We lost the option of hiring Tuchel, too. Reports said he was interested, but we never made the move. This timing will look even more baffling if Ruud stays on for a while.
Have no vitriol towards him whatsoever. It was just painfully evident he wasn't good enough. The club getting rid of him after the cup final would have meant he could have gone with some dignity intact, whilst we didn't waste another window signing his players. Not impressed at all with INEOS' dithering.
All the best to EtH in the future.
Felt he had to deal with a lot during his time here.
The aging squad he inherited, the Ronaldo situation, the Greenwood dithering, Sancho's petulance, Rashford's indifference, the ownership change, lack of support during this transition, the way he was left to media wolves without any support from the club after the FA Cup final.
You could argue he was backed by money in the market, but irrespective of whose fault it was, how much value did that money buy?
It was clear he didn't have it in him to change things anymore, but it is also clear that despite our spend, he wasn't supported effectively or given the right environment to thrive for the majority of his stay here.
He had to go. But I am disappointed he is sacked, because it means yet another failure. Yet another rebuild and clear out. The cycle just carries on and on. I had high hopes that we could regain some of the glory years after ETHs 1st season, but here we are again.
United is a manager's graveyard. One can only hope that the next one isn't set up to fail. Our problems still run much deeper than the manager.
We’ve been here before. We’re going in circles.
Yep.
I feel for ETH. I don't think he's a bad coach, I think the job was simply too big for him. Just as it was too big for every other manager since Fergie.
I think future managers will be helped by only needing to focus on the first team, and will hopefully benefit from the cumulative impact of season after season of buying players who are compatible with each other, and with the managers we bring in. ETH inherited a dog's dinner of a squad, who don't seem to suit any style of football other than counter attacking into space.
It's debatable whether any manager could have succeeded in these conditions. But it's undeniable that ETH couldn't.
Now we're in the position we didn't want to be, choosing a manager when the best managers are unavailable. Best case scenario, Ruud keeps a steady ship til summer, when we can get involved in the manager roundabout.
Agreed.
I really wanted him to work out.
Yep, felt like he had the most potential of the ones we had since SAF. It's a shame things didn't work out.
I see a lot of people celebrating this sacking, I don't get why. Yep, results will improve even under an interim, but we've failed yet again. We've lost more years, more money, more momentum, more starts, more players' primes, more potential all round.
I get that this year to be done, but such a set of cumulative losses deserve mourning.