crossy1686
career ending
Xavi won the league and got sacked for calling out the board? Some failure that, I'd have taken that from Ole.Taking Xavi at United is akin to Barcelona taking Ole. Both legends who failed at their clubs.
Xavi won the league and got sacked for calling out the board? Some failure that, I'd have taken that from Ole.Taking Xavi at United is akin to Barcelona taking Ole. Both legends who failed at their clubs.
Playing Casemiro instead of Ugarte was a massive two fingered salute to Wilcox. I imagine that's what ended things.We probably produced our best football under ETH against West Ham in first half. Result was awful but bit hilarious that he got the sack after a decent performance when they could have sacked him for much worse performance
I said this the other day. Until United fans start holding people accountable for the shite they're offering up they will continue to do so. This 'back the manager' bollocks has to stop.
Then you haven’t read the posts here.You're acting as if every other poster here was defending him?
Just want to say those for the sake of it? I dont see many posters defending him last 3 weeks?
Taking Xavi at United is akin to Barcelona taking Ole. Both legends who failed at their clubs.
Wouldn’t that require something new?No the club doesn't need something new. They need a manager who can work within the game model and train/ motivate the players, and manage in game better than ETH was able to
By most accounts, Wilcox wanted ETH gone from the moment he joined last season, and was also the one who pushed ETH to switch to a more pragmatic style of play in the last few games of last season, when our form picked up.Playing Casemiro instead of Ugarte was a massive two fingered salute to Wilcox. I imagine that's what ended things.
That's why clear out should be done way earlier, in Jose's era, but it wasn't and Ole did not have a voice in few key things. Surely we can find players with 15+ goals potential. Still Rashford looks better than our current crop (Sanch, Anto), but can he take the team somewhere else, he supposed to be one of the exprienced ones, and even lead team at some point. Turns out he has problems with himself and sometimes it does reflect on the team.Clear out?
Who do we need to clear out? Just the players Ten Hag brought in by the looks of things or do we clear out every single player? Then what? Who do we replace them with while we have FFP restrictions? Who wants our shite players also? You can't sell players that don't play well and are on big wages.
Is it just Rashford who needs to go then? After that the club will be transformed and we'll all pull together and win the league? And when we sell Rashford, who do we replace him with that can score 15+ goals a season in the PL? Those players are everywhere I bet, bet they're cheap also, and definitely want to join a team that is 14th in the league and going nowhere.
LVG and Mourinho were past their best. Individually they were arguably worth a shot in the hopes they could recover their prime, but having them one after the other when they had such completely different playstyle was stupid. And as it turned out, both clearly couldn't get back to their best.Isn't that what we thought we were doing with LVG, Jose and Erik?
Obviously I agree with you and this post is in jest. The last ten years has just diminished my confidence in us being able to do that, so all I can resort to is the ridiculous and hope to be pleasantly surprised.
I said this the other day. Until United fans start holding people accountable for the shite they're offering up they will continue to do so. This 'back the manager' bollocks has to stop.
IF we want Amorim, we should sign him now.Watch Ruud lead us on a run of form and we end up 3rd in the league.
Then we sign Amorim!!
Yeah, Sir Alex was just lucky to get players that enjoyed winning. He had nothing to do with building that winning culture as a leader for the staff and players. What a lucky feck he was!The players and the accepted culture of losing is the problem. Not the managers we’ve had.
Apparently we've spoken to him and he doesn't want to leave until the summer, at which point City might be available.IF we want Amorim, we should sign him now.
No chance that happens. Not even sure Amorim would agree to move.IF we want Amorim, we should sign him now.
Luckiest man in the world. First of all he got 26 season for little to no reason, then he got a bunch of kids on free transfers that liked winning games, and then he signed some players that also liked winning games.Yeah, Sir Alex was just lucky to get players that enjoyed winning. He had nothing to do with building that winning culture as a leader for the staff and players. What a lucky feck he was!
It is extremely strange. It's like they don't support the club's best interests but instead support individuals no matter what.I agree, too many people in the fanbase want to die on the hill for certain managers.
We literally give managers more time than any other big club in the world. That's part of the problem, as rather than replace a manager once he's taken us as far as he can we just let them continue on, tanking our results, destroying the belief and confidence, wasting valuable developmental time (especially for the younger players) and watching other top clubs pick up top managers as they quickly switch and change managers twice as fast as we do.That's why clear out should be done way earlier, in Jose's era, but it wasn't and Ole did not have a voice in few key things. Surely we can find players with 15+ goals potential. Still Rashford looks better than our current crop (Sanch, Anto), but can he take the team somewhere else, he supposed to be one of the exprienced ones, and even lead team at some point. Turns out he has problems with himself and sometimes it does reflect on the team.
If Ruud or new guy after will be the right choice, a lot of things must happen before that imo. We still most likely won't have patience to give the new guy time, the pressure is killing everyone in the club so far.
At least he won't have to answer the same questions over and over. I would say/agree that the club let this drag out way too long.Let's face it, he's been dying for this meeting since the summer when they tried to replace him.
That's the thing, It's not enough, imo. Definitely not enough to new manager to take us forward, without us judging him and things leading it to another sack.He has cleared out nearly entire squad. The only players he inherited who still have a significant role are Rashford, Bruno and Dalot. Maguire is a backup, Shaw is never healthy, everyone else is gone.
Rashford is not running the club behind the scenes and affecting everyone’s mentality insidiously. He does not have that much influence. Besides, he is the only reason why ten Hag won’t be looked back as the worst PL coach of the last 30 years as his purple patch of form in 22-23 was the only short period of time in which we performed respectably under him.
I doubt he would reject us. But if he does then ok. Move to another target.No chance that happens. Not even sure Amorim would agree to move.
He would reject us cause it’s the middle of the season. No top manager would move. We have to wait till the summer to have a chance at him.I doubt he would reject us. But if he does then ok. Move to another target.
So basically what you are saying is clearing out all but 4 players in 3 years while spending £600m to replace all the departures was not enough, and if he only were able to replace Rashford things would be good. But because he didn’t, Rashford colluded with other players to get him fired.That's the thing, It's not enough, imo. Definitely not enough to new manager to take us forward, without us judging him and things leading it to another sack.
Rashford have some problems and it transcends on the pitch. He's in age where he should lead from time to time. Maguire is at some point captain material and despite trying, it's too late for him to turn it around in his age. Casemiro and Eriksen declining so the only option is Bruno, and Bruno can't take the whole pressure.
We do have a clearout ahead, lots of tough decisions, I know a lot of folks won't like it, but the managerial job isn't done. Somebody will need to step up as manager and push it forward, let more young players in, and hopefully find leaders on the pitch with ruthless mentality. I really hope Ruud or new guy will have that time given.
He would reject us cause it’s the middle of the season. No top manager would move. We have to wait till the summer to have a chance at him.
These 4 men with millions of salary per year cocked up big time on retaining the manager in the summer and throw away another season. Hope they rectify their mistakes soon by appointing a right manager and salvage the season.