Ten Hag sacked | Ruud appointed Interim Manager
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood), Jamie (@Vault Dweller) and Ed (@That'sHernandez) are here to give their reaction just hours after the news has broke. Where did it all go wrong for ETH? What's next for United? and what were the highlights?
They also react to United's loss away at West Ham, including a breakdown of that ridiculous VAR decision.
Woof....this has come as such a relief. Although, the anxiety levels regarding the state of the club remain the same. We wasted quarter of our season and another gbp 200m hoping for a miracle when it was plenty obvious to anyone who knows even a little about football that ETH wasn't cut out for the job. It's so frustrating watching the higher ups at the club make feck-up after feck-up for the last 12 seasons.
I don't know if they'll get it right this time, but hope springs eternal.
We go again!
I don't know if they'll get it right this time, but hope springs eternal.
We go again!
If it had been up to me it would have happened over a year ago. He won a cup afterwards, so I would have been wrong in some people's mind but he lost me about 12 months ago.
Someone needs to install a powerful laser outside OT with those words beamed into the sky for all fans to see
"We will play Mazraoui at #10 and also use Dalot as a goal threat, heh"
Haha have you heard yourself? Lamenting the sacking of a manager who has dragged us into the mud of mediocracy, gaslighted the shit out of the fans, and signed players like Antony and Mount with no idea how to use them effectively. If you want to be the manager of Manchester United you have to win games, it's that simple.
You're talking like that isn't what happens? LVG got 2 full years. Jose, Ole and Hag all got 2.5.
If you cant improve a club in that time or are going rapidly backwards you are never going to succeed there. Ever. Period.
RVN is one of my favourite players. Feel for him here he has been given a really tough job. While we all questioned Ten Hags tactics . The biggest criticism for me was his signings in the transfer window. He had three bad windows and got in players no better than what Ole left behind. When Ole took over from Jose he had a decent squad full of internationals. It just went toxic and he got the feel good factor back in the place. Hate to see RVN get stick from fans and media this club needs a massive rebuild. I am rooting for him but it won’t be easy
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I was going to ask him what club he thinks he's talking about
There is no big club or fanbase in Europe more patient with managers than ours and that's been part of the problem!
Huge error from INEOS that may cost us a season. He should have been sacked in the summer. And he definitely should have been sacked in the international break. It was clear to everyone he was a dead man walking. Good they finally made the obvious decision but it should have done sooner.
We got 4 games than the next international break. A new manager should be appointed latest by the end of the next international break on Nov 24th
We got 4 games than the next international break. A new manager should be appointed latest by the end of the next international break on Nov 24th
These kind of things are mainly BS, only extremely peculiar players are limited by "playing style", it's basically pure wingbacks which are very uncommon. Just think about this do Inzaghi(Inter) and ETH are known for the same style? One is a CL finalist with Onana while the other just got sacked.
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Did open RedCafe.net - got chills! Amazing, lovely, finally!
I think it might have been. Playing a poor team in terrible form, and still couldn't win. Couldn't even draw. I think it was the last nail in the coffin that if Ten Hag can't even get results in these games, the jig was up.
It's a weird feeling. I wanted him sacked but now that he's sacked I still have no confidence this group of players can turn the season around.
6 months too late. Thank feck he is gone.
Just like last season this one is already fecked.
What a grim era this is.
Just like last season this one is already fecked.
What a grim era this is.
We're on course to be relegated. These players aren't that bad. We will finish in the top 6 now.
Jose was an upgrade on LvG, then Ole was recruited, then came ETH, so we can finally rely on Ruud saving the club.
By the look of things, it's a rollercoaster not exactly forward, sometimes even straight into the grave.
Big test for Ineos now. Have they got a successor lined up?
6 months late and could cost us the season.
There should be at least some improvement even with Ruud for the rest of the season. A new manager in/due seems to give that extra few % of effort which makes a lot of difference.
They've been speaking to coaches in the last couple of weeks so you would think they have something on the go for now or the summer.
Unbelievable that people are still using that narrative when squad turnover is so high. It's like they don't even notice that there are new players around.I will help you. It’s not the players.
This core group with a few crap amendments from Erik are a Top 4 team. How do we know that? Well when things are running correctly and our best players are played to their strengths we finish 3rd, 2nd and 3rd.
When the opposite happens we finish 7th and 8th. But guess what even though Erik tried to sabotage us with rubbish tactics and a few dodgy players.
Not at the expense of setting negative records on a weekly basis in the league.
Also, cup runs can give you all kinds of opposition. Manager A might get easy cup runs while Manager B gets much harder cup runs, so of course the first one should go further. Without going through all the different cup fixtures of the managers I can't say if that's the case here, but I do know that Ole had more difficult cup fixtures than ETH. Both mostly played PL opposition in all the domestic cups, but ETH played most of his at home while Ole was mostly away.
Once INEOs starts to synchronise strategy with the intuitive Caf posters who know better we will be fine. I’ve sent the club an email with a link to the ETH thread , they will soon know who called it…..
If Potter (and) or Southgate gets hired, whoever is behind their acquisition should be fired from the club with immediate effect.
We cannot allow the executive class at United carte blanche to spaff it up the wall, whilst coining it in hiring their mates.
Even if it were true, that would mean ETH's own hand-selected players that he had previously worked with were throwing him under the bus. That wouldn't reflect well on him either, would it?
It makes him look even worse.
Meanwhile, NOT winning trophies was the most common stick used to beat Ole.
Its just lazy.. Ten Hag has signed over 11 players. Its definitely not the case for the same players throwing him under, he simply wasn't good enough.
No the club doesn't need something new. They need a manager who can work within the game model and train/ motivate the players, and manage in game better than ETH was able to
Oh yes, I forgot ETH signed a lot of players that shockingly resemble the same old. Not to mention that the new players are constantly injured too, so he must play the old ones.
Ruud won't fix one thing with current squad mentality. ETH, just like Jose should be more ruthless, and they weren't.
The players and the accepted culture of losing is the problem. Not the managers we’ve had.
They also somehow reviewed last season thoroughly and came up with the idea that ETH was the best option...
Yeah but they don't mean those players, they mean all these players that have been here under multiple managers...
Which leaves probably just Rashford and Lindelöf right? Man, those two must be toxic as feck if that's the case...
Where does this come from? I'm just curious to where this was reported?
There was something very odd about what happened after the league cup final. I think it was against Fulham or West Ham the next match but the club was making a desperate point about maintaining good vibes and celebrating success with a load of pre-match awards. Roy Keane was on commentary and said he didn't like it (what's new!?
) but I remember thinking it was all a bit excessive. Our form and general play pretty much sank from that point onward.Well they made offers to Tuchel and De Zerbi so we know that's bullshit. I think they will prefer the option of having the entire season to do a managerial search instead of a month during the summer.
Oh yes the ones he signed are always injured.
Ugarte, Antony, Zirkzee, Eriksen, De Ligt are always injured. Injuries cannot be an excuse this season.
Since the Jose sacking, how many players are actually here? Rashford, Shaw and Dalot?
That's exactly what he's talking about, the club need a new manager.