Ollie Derbyshire
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I'll give Ruud 2 games to pick the team I want or I'm on the Ruud out train!!
We're yet to see any of these managers leave United and make us regret sacking them. I doubt it'll be any different with ten Hag.Maybe the manager is just shit mate? Last I saw ‘these players’ were pretty much signed by the manager who they got sacked.
This makes most sense from all options available. Would be next season. Which means letting RVN see the season out.Emeryh
Well if we let him sign his shitty little players from a league that is light years off the PL then maybe he will be?Maybe the next manager will be shite too ? I'm guessing the next after him is shite, too.
Spurs turned him down previously over a lack of charisma it was saidThis makes most sense from all options available. Would be next season. Which means letting RVN see the season out.
Always thought ETH was absolutely shit and the kind of manager Spurs would have had ten to fifteen years ago. Was proven correct, unfortunately.
You probably wish that. Our 900.000.00m worth of players squad is more than good enough to be able to play the way Spurs or Villa do. More than good enough to not be 14th. We just need to appoint the right manager. Lets see who it will be.It will be done to death, again. The club running in circles. You'll be throwing rocks at next appointment very soon.
Haha 4 wins in 14 games and the next manager can go alsoIt will be done to death, again. The club running in circles. You'll be throwing rocks at next appointment very soon.
Good to see that you're giving him a chance and not jumping to conclusions.Maybe the next manager will be shite too ? I'm guessing the next after him is shite, too.
Relegation is a ladder!Ruud knew this was coming, that's why he took the gig. Making Littlefinger moves.
We will probably let managers sign players they want at some point. Better start preparing stones to throw at next appointment, with no guarantees of winning even a league cup.Well if we let him sign his shitty little players from a league that is light years off the PL then maybe he will be?
Which is fine, but I presume the next manager *may* keep him around. I do think at least Hojlund's movement has improved - not saying that's all down to Ruud but its notable considering how little game time he s had since coming off the injury. I dont get the impression Ruud is tied at the hip with EtH
You forgot to add, if manager fail, you sack them... and appoint substantial upgrade. You can't even be sure if your new punching bag will win a league cup.You say this like every other club doesnt operate in this way. And they all operate in this way because it's the ONLY way to do it and the ONLY way that works.
When managers fail, you sack them.
I’ll take not winning the league cup if it means not finishing in the bottom half and getting routinely thrashed by your rivals.We will probably let managers sign players they want at some point. Better start preparing stones to throw at next appointment, with no guarantees of winning even a league cup.
That's because its not only about hiring the right manager, but having the right structure. We could have Pep, Xavi, Ancelotti or whoever and they wouldn't make it here at the moment.Yea that is quite right. A succession of capable managers have walked in and been kicked out since Sir Alex.
And I keep hoping that this time we have got it right, only to be disappointed like the rest of us.
Yet other clubs have made a much better job of recruiting the right person.
There’s a clear mentality issue and has been for years. Mentally this club needs a lot of work. Imagine celebrating any defeat as a top level footballer? Bizarre.The players were celebrating the 4-3 result against Bayern. Says it all
Onana has been pretty good this season - he'll be our starting keeper for yearsWhat will happen to players like Onana? Who were bought in to suit Ten Hag's "playing style".
So you know how the season will end huh ?I’ll take not winning the league cup if it means not finishing in the bottom half and getting routinely thrashed by your rivals.
Don't know anything long term yet but he's definitely one of the least of our problems presently for a new manager to addressOnana has been pretty good this season - he'll be our starting keeper for years
This makes most sense from all options available. Would be next season. Which means letting RVN see the season out.
Always thought ETH was absolutely shit and the kind of manager Spurs would have had ten to fifteen years ago. Was proven correct, unfortunately.
4 wins in 14 games this season and people here were defending him. fecking madness!
But trophies aren't important apparently.That is way too harsh. He did won 2 trophies.
Both Van Gaal and Ole did better than him in the league, which is the main barometer of success. And both did better than him in UCL, despite being quite shit there.
Moyes season was somewhere between EtH's first and second season, and miles better than this one. If we are counting interims, Rangnick's terrible season was still better than our last season, and far better than this one. So yep, at best case I'll rank him just above Moyes, but below Ole/LvG and considerably below Mourinho. But considering the money spent, and time given, I would rank him bottom, and think that together with LvG, long term he has been the most damaging manager we've had.
But so what if the cups are doing heavy lifting? We were shite in the FA Cup for far too long. Same with the EFL Cup.Also a worse loss ratio than Ole and LVG.
Points per game are the way to judge, where the West Ham result dropped him into 3rd:
Mourinho: 1.97
Ole: 1.845
ETH: 1.843
LVG: 1.81
Moyes: 1.73
In saying that, the cups are doing a lot of heavy lifting for ETH. If we limit it to just the PL then he drops to the bottom of the pile.
Mouinrho: 1.89
Ole: 1.80
LVG: 1.78
Moyes: 1.72
ETH: 1.71
The league is the bread and butter and what helps keep the club financially profitable. Not being able to be in the top 4 consistently has cost the club financially and in some prestige too. What is the point in cups if we can't be a good team in the league?But trophies aren't important apparently.
I swear we're the only fanbase in the world that would downplay a cup finak win against our local rivals.
Most damaging manager we've had. Oh come on, that's absurd.
But so what if the cups are doing heavy lifting? We were shite in the FA Cup for far too long. Same with the EFL Cup.
city and the scousers regularly get to the final of these competitions. We should be aswell.
Let's make appointment every six months then. Should speed up the process... but by luck is not exacly how world works, right ? There has to be calculation from time to time, to actually appoint an upgrade, rather than another random manager.Not how the world works. Liverpool didnt know Klopp would turn out to be one of the best 2 managers in the world until he was in place. We didn't know Ten Hag would be a complete fraud until he was in the door. Both hirings were good decisions at the time they were made.
Thats why you have to cycle through managers until you get lucky.
It should have happened at the last break. Let's hope there is enough time and the players/coaches put in maximum effort to salvage something from this season.Fantastic start to the week. Hopefully Ruud can inject some positivity into the squad, I'm sure he's given all fans an instant lift of mood.
You say this like every other club doesnt operate in this way. And they all operate in this way because it's the ONLY way to do it and the ONLY way that works.
When managers fail, you sack them.