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Nothing but love for McTominay. He gave all he had everytime on the pitch for us. Best of wishes in Italy.
McTominay-Fred double pivot wasn't right. Both are either box-to-box midfielders or more advanced. It's why Fred looked better with Casemiro behind him or McTominay last season as this advanced midfielder running in opposition box and scoring plenty of goals. Ole had 3 summer windows and never signed a defensive/central midfielder.Scott was really poor in the McFred partnership. Since Fred has left, he has become a better player. That just wasn't a great partnership. I think both players have flourished without each other.
I wanted to keep Scott as a squad player and was sad to see him leave but totally understand the reasons he was sold for.
Wish him nothing but good luck.
Likely helped get the Ugarte deal over the line.No idea why we sold him but i guess he wanted regular first team football. We needed someone in the middle of the park to kick the scousers on Sunday and we didn’t have one especially when Ugarte isn’t ready
Best of luck in Italy, Scotty
He was a central midfielder who would regularly have 90 minutes with fewer than 40 passes, and go literally minutes without touching the ball.
If we could afford to give him a completely free role and just let him crash the box that would be fine, but even there I personally never found his conversion rate notable. He got in good positions but missed great chances, and the point is the rest of the time he offered almost nothing.
His passing is bottom range and he wasn't particularly saavy with defensive actions so he just doesn't work for a top club, you can't carry that.
The move is good for everyone, we had to move him on to move forwards.
Hear, hear.A lot of people on here are so full of shit it's laughable. The abuse this bloke got, and now so many saying "we will miss him" etc. Half of this forum simply don't deserve to have loyal players like him at the club, he got such much stick.
He absolutely ran the show last night, always a threat, great work rate, good link up play against a good Poland side.
He will be missed here, especially of Ugarte doesn't hit the ground running.
He was a central midfielder who would regularly have 90 minutes with fewer than 40 passes, and go literally minutes without touching the ball.
If we could afford to give him a completely free role and just let him crash the box that would be fine, but even there I personally never found his conversion rate notable. He got in good positions but missed great chances, and the point is the rest of the time he offered almost nothing.
His passing is bottom range and he wasn't particularly saavy with defensive actions so he just doesn't work for a top club, you can't carry that.
The move is good for everyone, we had to move him on to move forwards.
A lot of people on here are so full of shit it's laughable. The abuse this bloke got, and now so many saying "we will miss him" etc. Half of this forum simply don't deserve to have loyal players like him at the club, he got so such much stick.
Yeah, at the end of the day he probably wasn't good enough and we got rid of him for a good fee, but he was never as bad as most United fans wanted you to believe. The reversal to this fawning doey eyed well wishing now he's gone is remarkable.
I also do think he got a lot of stick for being a good club man and trying to do what's asked of him. @Pogue Mahone and @Beachryan point out his lack of involvement under ten Hag, but the truth is every player that has played next to Casemiro has really struggled to get involved in games. Sabitzer was equally ethereal, and Mainoo is, for all his quality, not influencing games as much as he could be. Eriksen has the best numbers here from his first season, but we were also setting up a bit differently then.
All of that is to say, that ten Hag's suicide midfield doesn't really get the best out of anyone and the lack of involvement of his 8 in general play does seem to be a feature not a bug. McTominay has never been great at this, but I don't think he should be completely tarred with ten Hag's shitty brush.
McTominay is always a goal threat. It was McTominay that wanted to leave. Ten Hag wanted him to stay.
Yeah, at the end of the day he probably wasn't good enough and we got rid of him for a good fee, but he was never as bad as most United fans wanted you to believe. The reversal to this fawning doey eyed well wishing now he's gone is remarkable.
I also do think he got a lot of stick for being a good club man and trying to do what's asked of him. @Pogue Mahone and @Beachryan point out his lack of involvement under ten Hag, but the truth is every player that has played next to Casemiro has really struggled to get involved in games. Sabitzer was equally ethereal, and Mainoo is, for all his quality, not influencing games as much as he could be. Eriksen has the best numbers here from his first season, but we were also setting up a bit differently then.
All of that is to say, that ten Hag's suicide midfield doesn't really get the best out of anyone and the lack of involvement of his 8 in general play does seem to be a feature not a bug. McTominay has never been great at this, but I don't think he should be completely tarred with ten Hag's shitty brush.
Did you watch last night's game?Scott McTominay will absolutely not be missed except by those that suffer under the delusion that he was/is a good footballer.
Never good enough for United. Then again, assuming more than mediocrity under *********** Ten Hag is probably my delusion.
McTominay playing well for Scotland isn't new though. He got a brace against Spain and a few days later he was shite for us against Newcastle when we lost 2-0, and then shite again when we stumbled to a 1-0 win against Brentford.Did you watch last night's game?
Could have done with that in midfield against Liverpool.
But nevermind eh.
Do you think Poland are as good as Liverpool?Did you watch last night's game?
Could have done with that in midfield against Liverpool.
But nevermind eh.
Do you think Poland are as good as Liverpool?
Gravenberch and McAllister are lightyears ahead of McTominay
He was a central midfielder who would regularly have 90 minutes with fewer than 40 passes, and go literally minutes without touching the ball.
If we could afford to give him a completely free role and just let him crash the box that would be fine, but even there I personally never found his conversion rate notable. He got in good positions but missed great chances, and the point is the rest of the time he offered almost nothing.
His passing is bottom range and he wasn't particularly saavy with defensive actions so he just doesn't work for a top club, you can't carry that.
The move is good for everyone, we had to move him on to move forwards.