I learnt today in an infection control session that basically every common cold is a different strain of the corona virus.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
- Thread starter Don't Kill Bill
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Stop spreading panic! Stop Doom-mongering! Don't you know that the Government are totally in control of this?
Sit back and intellectualize. Adopt a superior position.
That's what will help everyone stay safe
Yes, you have a point. All the schools are closed here, which makes a lot of sense because many Italians live as extended families. It's really common to have a 90-year-old gran living in the same house as her primary-age great-grandchildren. It puts the old at even more risk.
How does quarantine work at the border. Let's say you're visiting some country and all of a sudden some idiot coughs in a crowded market and suddenly there is an epidemic and all departures from this country back to your own country are subject to 14 day quarantine.
How does it work? Are you provided food and a bed? Will someone be allowed to bring you clothing and your laptop and some tissue*?
*For sneezing you perverts
How does it work? Are you provided food and a bed? Will someone be allowed to bring you clothing and your laptop and some tissue*?
*For sneezing you perverts
I'm pretty sure standard ffp3 masks are way better than the trash idiots are buying up for this...
What’s the tissue for? It does get lonely in quarantine I guess! Haha
Does anyone know why there is much more fuss about this than "regular flu" which surely kills far more people every year than this?
I thing about a third of colds are caused by coronaviruses.
Turns out that my son's friend's mum treated this guy before he was diagnosed and has had to self isolate. Son's still going to school and rest of the family is business as usual. Seems a bit odd to me.
Because it seems to have a similar rate of infection but a much larger mortality and hospitalisation rate. The only reason this hasn't killed more people than the flu is that it isn't (yet) as widespread - especially since we do not as yet have a vaccine.
Unlike flu there is no treatment or vaccine and no immunity built up in the population through previous exposure. There is also a higher death rate and a high % of those infected require hospitalisation.
Seasonal flu has something like a 0.2% mortality rate.
It's believed that Coronavirus has a 1% mortality rate - approximately five times higher than flu.
It also appears at this time to be more infectious.
What's corona's xG?
Ah right, cheers. Was a genuine question, I didn't know the mortality rate was much higher
Bloody hell, that over 80's rate! Is this Mother Nature's answer to the 'ageing population' issue??
This is legit a flu. The overreaction is hilarious every major virus swine flu, ebola. etc was worse then this.
That's based on the known mortality rate. The actual mortality rate will be a lot lower as the actual amount infected isn't known. In S Korea where they've done the most testing it's around 0.6% which is still sadly high in comparison to most other Coronavirus. The final rate is likely to go down as the testing gets better and we know more about the people who have it with minor symptoms
In Germany we have over 600 official cases, some in my city too, but (god bless) still no one died. Seems weird to me if you compare the numbers to other countries.
I wonder if you are conducting more tests than other countries.
I don't think you can categorically state it to be better or worse than the seasonal flu just yet. There's evidence on both sides but it's too early to conclude.
Surprised St Patrick's Day parades are not officially cancelled. Looks like quite a few towns have decided to cancel themselves anyway.
Still quite early for Germany no? When have most of these cases officially appeared?
Highly recommend it. It's in French, subtitled in English
At its peak - South Korea's confirmed new cases increased by a staggering 112% in one day, then levelled out at around 30% - and is now all the way down to just a 5% increase in new cases every day.
There are similar figures for Hong Kong and Singapore.
None of these states have taken extreme measures as seen in China (such as closing off apartment blocks)
So what measures have they taken to be so successful? How can we get the transmission rates down to only 5% increases per day?
There are similar figures for Hong Kong and Singapore.
None of these states have taken extreme measures as seen in China (such as closing off apartment blocks)
So what measures have they taken to be so successful? How can we get the transmission rates down to only 5% increases per day?
SXSW cancelled. For those who don't know it's one of the biggest festivals in the US.
Erm? No it isn't. Totally different virus. Unlike flu there is no vaccine or drug to treat it.
Bear farm. What in the world...
Well 2 or 3 days ago it's been 200-300 cases. It's spreading extremely fast these days. But the first ones were probably 2 weeks ago.
So from patient to medic to medic's son to medic's son's classmate to decorativeed.
Are you worried?
Ignorance seems very much to be bliss.
Even leaving aside the medical mumbo jumbo of why you're wrong, do you really think that half the world are in the process of shutting down their own economies for the flu?
I mean, legit yo.
World governments dont shut countries down over just a flu. Nothing has combined the ability to spread and kill as effectively as this in our lifetimes.
If Ebola had the same transmission rate as this I would board myself up inside my bedroom.
I just read that only 1 out of 106 people actually caught the bug in Wuhan, and that was despite it going unnoticed there for a month and (I imagine) almost everyone coming into close contact with someone who does have it in some way shape or form.
I wonder what the actual odds of catching it are. Like if I had a layover in Milan tomorrow what would the chances be of me getting it? 1 in 100? 1 in 500, what? If i went say Valencia what are the odds? Etc etc. Think of those type of figures were released daily for any affected City it would help ease the hysteria and give us a better idea on what we're dealing with.
I wonder what the actual odds of catching it are. Like if I had a layover in Milan tomorrow what would the chances be of me getting it? 1 in 100? 1 in 500, what? If i went say Valencia what are the odds? Etc etc. Think of those type of figures were released daily for any affected City it would help ease the hysteria and give us a better idea on what we're dealing with.
yeah there’s quite a bit of helpful information that I think they should know by now, such as how long does it stay on what sort of surfaces and exactly the questions you raised too. I’m hearing all sorts online such as 9 days/two weeks on metal to 15 minutes on anything! So weird. It’s not like knowing those things would freak the public out, they are already taking worst case speculation as gospel!
I don't understand that... How could they get out? Quite fecking easily I'm sure. Abandoned buildings probably.
1. There's a vaccine for Flu.
2. We are used to and accept that we need to deal with Flu, having ANOTHER endemic virus just as bad as Flu would be pretty terrible.
3. There's still lots of unknowns about it, so better safe than sorry I guess.
Why do people keep saying it’s a flu?
I don't think everyone came into contact with an infected person. I think until late January the number of infected people was fairly small (graphs look almost like a straight line). Also that majority of people are asymptotic hasn't proven true in China apparently. It's perhaps true for the first 48 hours. Truly asymptotic people make up less than 2% apparently. The Milan scenario, not sure now, but I believe if you were a tourist or a business person the chances would have been far higher because of your behaviour.