There is no evidence that there is any sort of long term immunity gained from combating this virus. 'Herd immunity' is a hell of a big risk without that knowledge.
If there isn't any long term immunity, you've basically fecked all the old people and still have nothing to show for it...
That is very low indeed in all categories. Massively lower than in Australia even in the more deprived areas. More government defunding no doubt.Stats from the Sutton Trust as reported on Newsnight.
30% of Pupils from Middle Class families are taking part in online lessons everyday.
57% of pupils from Independent Secondary Schools are taking part in daily online lessons.
16% of pupils from Working Class families are taking part in daily online lessons.
50% of Private schools are getting work handed in
27% in the most advantaged State Schools are getting work back
8% of the least advantaged State Schools are getting work back
33% of the Most deprived Schools say their Pupils have no access to the equipment to learn online
These school closures will be devastating for the social mobility of a whole generation.
Hmmm, not really seeing the value of using Z score (rather than something more directly correlated to the actual numbers of excess deaths) there - the FT's briefing seems more intelligible really - https://www.ft.com/content/6bd88b7d-3386-4543-b2e9-0d5c6fac846c. Maybe someone can explain why using the Z score is statistically helpful.
I do agree with the central premise though - we need to look at excess deaths to get a serious idea of how we're doing. "Covid on the death certificate" isn't enough of a guide given the lack of testing in the community and the numbers dying without hospital treatment.
The graphs don't look as scary otherwise. People just use whatever stats they want that fit their agenda. The entire thing reeks.
"I was hesitant to post this" no he wasnt, the minute he had created it he was already in the middle of posting it.
No, the fact that the Tories have for decades under resourced public schools will contribute more to kids getting left behind than closing schools for a couple of monthsStats from the Sutton Trust as reported on Newsnight.
30% of Pupils from Middle Class families are taking part in online lessons everyday.
57% of pupils from Independent Secondary Schools are taking part in daily online lessons.
16% of pupils from Working Class families are taking part in daily online lessons.
50% of Private schools are getting work handed in
27% in the most advantaged State Schools are getting work back
8% of the least advantaged State Schools are getting work back
33% of the Most deprived Schools say their Pupils have no access to the equipment to learn online
These school closures will be devastating for the social mobility of a whole generation.
No, the fact that the Tories have for decades under resourced public schools will contribute more to kids getting left behind than closing schools for a couple of months
Two things can be true at the same time can't they?
You can argue that schools are under resourced and closing them for a few months really doesn't help matters.
The data also proves that it's the pupils who need a good education the most who are getting left behind by school closures.
Erm?
Herd immunity is the aim but unless we want mass death the only way most places can realistically get that is a vaccine.
The aim is to not get sick. Pursuing a herd immunity strategy whereby you allow 80% of the population to contract the virus would result in countless death from the disease and from lack of beds in ICU - was stupid.
If true, IFR could be much higher than the 0.5 to 1% often talked about.
The state of this.
Tried to make that point the other day.
Uk measures are half baked and insufficient
Is anyone else getting really fecking bored of these sickly sweet feel good stories filling up the news at the moment? Well done you’ve got one leg and walked around your living room 1000 times and got 600 like on Facebook now feck off.
If true, IFR could be much higher than the 0.5 to 1% often talked about.
Todays the first day they will include deaths outside hospital. Will they give us a breakdown of the figures, i.e deaths in hospital, deaths at home, deaths in care homes?
For what it's worth (can't say they'll do the same in the UK), in Belgium it's broken down as:Todays the first day they will include deaths outside hospital. Will they give us a breakdown of the figures, i.e deaths in hospital, deaths at home, deaths in care homes?
Think we still need to be looking at deaths in hospital and how many people are still being admitted to hospital. The lockdown was aimed at taking the pressure off the NHS. Think the government see the deaths in care homes as collateral damage unfortunately.Ah so because what we have been measuring is going down, we are now going to report it differently so it looks like we have gone backwards.
Hope they make it clear we haven't gone backwards, just now recording differently so expect the deaths to go up.
They've probably waited till it's at a low enough overall number to report it.
Ah so because what we have been measuring is going down, we are now going to report it differently so it looks like we have gone backwards.
Hope they make it clear we haven't gone backwards, just now recording differently so expect the deaths to go up.
They've probably waited till it's at a low enough overall number to report it.
That's how it should be reported here. Will every care home death just be claimed as a Covid-19 or have some of the poor souls just died of other things or old age?For what it's worth (can't say they'll do the same in the UK), in Belgium it's broken down as:
Total deaths:
Deaths in hospitals:
Deaths in care homes:
% of deaths in care homes which is confirmed as Covid-19:
They're even speaking of it as "two separate epidemics going on simultaneously", one in society and one in the care homes. The % of confirmed cases in care homes is usually quite low as well.
Think we still need to be looking at deaths in hospital and how many people are still being admitted to hospital. The lockdown was aimed at taking the pressure off the NHS. Think the government see the deaths in care homes as collateral damage unfortunately.
Swedish Ambassador Says Stockholm Expected To Reach 'Herd Immunity' In May
https://www.npr.org/2020/04/26/8452...n-may-swedish-ambassador-says?t=1588149396231
When it comes to media silence is always good. If there was a hint of their approach backfiring the media (not to mention the scores of people dreaming of a Draconian lockdown needing whatever material they can find to support their wish) would be all over it.Wow, good for Sweden if that's true. I haven't been paying as much attention to Sweden as I thought I would be, it's been quieter than I expected. Given their approach, you'd think media outlets would be all over this situation as they are basically being guinea pigs for a different approach.
When it comes to media silence is always good. If there was a hint of their approach backfiring the media (not to mention the scores of people dreaming of a Draconian lockdown needing whatever material they can find to support their wish) would be all over it.
Sweden have found the perfect balance in my opinion and that will become increasingly evident the longer this goes on (and beyond).
All claimed as Covid-19 but will be adjusted once they're confirmed as infected/not infected, so the numbers will still be adjusted quite a bit I'd imagine.That's how it should be reported here. Will every care home death just be claimed as a Covid-19 or have some of the poor souls just died of other things or old age?
I hope so.All claimed as Covid-19 but will be adjusted once they're confirmed as infected/not infected, so the numbers will still be adjusted quite a bit I'd imagine.
