SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

She is my ex partner. I live about an hour away from the kids. We thought it would be better for them if I stayed here during lock down instead of taking them back and forth.

I can't afford the petrol to be driving back and forth anyway, and shopping to feed them. Not on £409 per month.
That sucks. So your UC is meant to just cover your own living costs (barely) and your ex will either be earning and/or getting benefits for her and the kids.

Might be worth trying this (maybe for both households) although I'm sure you'd rather be working

https://www.entitledto.co.uk/

All the best to you
 
That sucks. So your UC is meant to just cover your own living costs (barely) and your ex will either be earning and/or getting benefits for her and the kids.

Might be worth trying this (maybe for both households) although I'm sure you'd rather be working

https://www.entitledto.co.uk/

All the best to you
Cheers. Everybody is in the same boat though is suppose. I just can't wait for a bit of normality. We all took our freedom for granted.
 
Cheers. Everybody is in the same boat though is suppose. I just can't wait for a bit of normality. We all took our freedom for granted.
Can you not get 80% of your earnings off the government ? I thought they announced help for the self employed.
 
Telling people in the UK that they can drive to their place of exercise was a big mistake. It just moves people further into other communities. There's some vague guidance that the car journey shouldn't take longer than the exercise or something similar, but you can go a long way in 20 minutes in a car.

All these people out taking exercise - how many of them were going out for an hour just to exercise before all of this? I have a friend (70 years old, super-fit) who drives to a park and runs a 5K every morning, but she's been doing that for years so I have sympathy for her!

I question the thinking that goes into this question; one I’ve read several times. For many, the reduction in working hours, cancelling of plans, relative confinement and potential loneliness can all strengthen the motivation to exercise and take additional care of personal health.

I’m a teacher. I’m not driving to work for half 7 each morning and I’m no longer getting back home at 7 each night. Typically, I’ve found it difficult to maintain routine outside of a fortnightly park run and a bit of five-a-side here and there. This will apply to other professions and careers, too. I’ve sacrificed my fitness and routine over the past 3-4 years and this virus has finally given me the time to prioritise being active and do more exercise.

That the country has (seemingly) taken up exercise in droves is a fantastic boost for public health in the UK. The long-term benefits of this ongoing exercise boom will significantly outweigh the consequences of the limited transmissions that take place on a narrow path.

I really hope that this pandemic has a long term positive impact upon exercise and public health in relation to exercise. It must be encouraged.
 
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We've been locked up with three kids for 5 weeks now. I'm going absolutely crazy now, at some point they have to open things back. My mental health will get me before this virus does.

I'm self employed and had to claim universal credit, £409 a month. The bills are starting to pile up. We can't stay at home forever. We have to just get on with it sooner or later.

I’m hearing a lot of this now. The Universal Credit roll out is one of the most botched political processes I can recall in my lifetime. It’s abhorrent.

I sympathise with your position and I think it’s telling that an increase in activity has been identified. The public-blamers and Facebook-shamers would have you believe that it’s all down to irresponsible idiots and therein the problem lies. The overwhelmingly reality is that a lot of people are reaching a point at which the bills are becoming a problem. Combine the two, and you begin to detect a more serious increase in activity overall.

I’ve done a bit of a shift in recent days and I think there has to be a gradual return to economic activity after the current lockdown window. I think this will happen, too.

Secondary to this, I worry that there may be the possibility that some people are taking this too seriously. Hear me out. They’ve quite rightly understood and followed the government advice, but are becoming so consumed by the dangers of the virus that there is a growing ambivalence and flippancy associated with other very alarming health-related figures. There has been a 75% reduction in cancer referrals for the month of April - that is a frightening figure. Yes, this virus is terrible; I can’t stress this enough. But there are other dangers that are more likely to directly affect the majority of the population (on an individual basis) that are festering undetected.
 
I’m hearing a lot of this now. The Universal Credit roll out is one of the most botched political processes I can recall in my lifetime. It’s abhorrent.

I sympathise with your position and I think it’s telling that an increase in activity has been identified. The public-blamers and Facebook-shamers would have you believe that it’s all down to irresponsible idiots and therein the problem lies. The overwhelmingly reality is that a lot of people are reaching a point at which the bills are becoming a problem. Combine the two, and you begin to detect a more serious increase in activity overall.

I’ve done a bit of a shift in recent days and I think there has to be a gradual return to economic activity after the current lockdown window. I think this will happen, too.

Secondary to this, I worry that there may be the possibility that some people are taking this too seriously. Hear me out. They’ve quite rightly understood and followed the government advice, but are becoming so consumed by the dangers of the virus that there is a growing ambivalence and flippancy associated with other very alarming health-related figures. There has been a 75% reduction in cancer referrals for the month of April - that is a frightening figure. Yes, this virus is terrible; I can’t stress this enough. But there are other dangers that are more likely to directly affect the majority of the population (on an individual basis) that are festering undetected.

As a teacher, how have you shifted in recent days?
 
Is there a common consensus / view re mortgage holidays? At the min the wife is furloughed and I’m going down to a 4 day week on 80% pay.

On this basis we can still afford our bills etc. But should things worsen do you think people will be able to take a 3 month holiday down the line?

If I can avoid taking a holiday, that’d be the plan but wonder if building more of a buffer in our funds is wise!
 
Telling people in the UK that they can drive to their place of exercise was a big mistake. It just moves people further into other communities. There's some vague guidance that the car journey shouldn't take longer than the exercise or something similar, but you can go a long way in 20 minutes in a car.

All these people out taking exercise - how many of them were going out for an hour just to exercise before all of this? I have a friend (70 years old, super-fit) who drives to a park and runs a 5K every morning, but she's been doing that for years so I have sympathy for her!

I honestly think the rate of transmission between people passing near other people outdoors will turn out to be negligible. Certainly nowhere near high enough to merit all the angst about the increase in joggers and busy parks. Getting out and about is massively important for mental and physical health and the more healthy the general public are, the lower the mortality rate from this virus. The UK has got a lot of things wrong but I don’t have any problem with their rules around exercise.
 
What's the odds on schools being open through the normal summer holidays

I know teachers will Winge that they don't get 6 weeks off but these are exceptional circumstances and there are some practical considerations

1. Kids will have missed at least 6 weeks of professional education
2. Many parents depend on grand parents to help with care over the summer which does not seem practical once people return to work and furlough stops
3. Many people simply won't have the money for childminders having been on reduced furlough pay or reduced hours (nor will there be sufficient registered child minders to pick up the gap from what grandparents normally do)
 
Is there a common consensus / view re mortgage holidays? At the min the wife is furloughed and I’m going down to a 4 day week on 80% pay.

On this basis we can still afford our bills etc. But should things worsen do you think people will be able to take a 3 month holiday down the line?

If I can avoid taking a holiday, that’d be the plan but wonder if building more of a buffer in our funds is wise!
You would qualify for one now if you applied... But who knows if you apply in 2 or 3 months what facilities will or won't be available
 
You would qualify for one now if you applied... But who knows if you apply in 2 or 3 months what facilities will or won't be available

yeah that’s the crux of my question really. I know I could get one now, but whilst can pay the bills feel I should.

Question as to whether such flexibility will be there for those that haven’t taken one in say 6 months time.
 
Another factor, without meaning to sound like a Brexit championer, is that a significant number of the Eastern Europeans here are completely ignoring the lockdown and social distancing advice and just carrying on as normal. It's been so obviously apparent it's actually changed my views quite a bit. Every time I go out running their are groups of them in the park, not even out of the way, literally just standing directly in everyone's path. All of their businesses are still open, including pointless things like car washing. My downstairs neighbour still keeps having his mates and parents over. I've had to have a go at him when him and his mate barged past me in the corridor.

They are a minority locally here in terms of the general population, yet at the moment they are a quite vast majority of the people out and about.

Unfortunately it seems we tend to collect a lot of the thickos that other countries don't have a use for...and we already have enough of our own to deal with frankly. In a situation like this idiots are always going to be the cause of a majority of the problems. A large collection of low skilled and generally quite ignorant people is never a good thing to have in a crisis. Especially when a section of them are not integrated properly so show little respect for the common cause.
Seriously, this post is acceptable? Do feck off with your casual prejudice.
 
yeah that’s the crux of my question really. I know I could get one now, but whilst can pay the bills feel I should.

Question as to whether such flexibility will be there for those that haven’t taken one in say 6 months time.

My gut feel is yes bacause we will probably be in wave 2 or 3 by then

But why not take the break and the money you would have saved stick it in a savings account and you can pay it all off in 3 months if you want but have the flexibility to dip into it if you needed it
 
I question the thinking that goes into this question; one I’ve read several times. For many, the reduction in working hours, cancelling of plans, relative confinement and potential loneliness can all strengthen the motivation to exercise and take additional care of personal health.

I’m a teacher. I’m not driving to work for half 7 each morning and I’m no longer getting back home at 7 each night. Typically, I’ve found it difficult to maintain routine outside of a fortnightly park run and a bit of five-a-side here and there. This will apply to other professions and careers, too. I’ve sacrificed my fitness and routine over the past 3-4 years and this virus has finally given me the time to prioritise being active and do more exercise.

That the country has (seemingly) taken up exercise in droves is a fantastic boost for public health in the UK. The long-term benefits of this ongoing exercise boom will significantly outweigh the consequences of the limited transmissions that take place on a narrow path.

I really hope that this pandemic has a long term positive impact upon exercise and public health in relation to exercise. It must be encouraged.
I wonder how true that is. The people I've seen doing yoga or boxing on the green or in the park all looked fit already tbh.

There are undoubtedly way more joggers and a few older ones who may well have dug their trainers out the cupboard after years plus a few tubby ones. Loads of oeople must just be sitting on their arses though and I bet a lot of people are eating rubbish too.
 
I honestly think the rate of transmission between people passing near other people outdoors will turn out to be negligible. Certainly nowhere near high enough to merit all the angst about the increase in joggers and busy parks. Getting out and about is massively important for mental and physical health and the more healthy the general public are, the lower the mortality rate from this virus. The UK has got a lot of things wrong but I don’t have any problem with their rules around exercise.

It seems unlikely that the virus would be easily passed from one jogger to another alright.

I wonder how much footfall at nearby shops is impacted by increasing numbers of people travelling to a busy park though? I would hazard a guess that those sort of additional contact points are more of an issue than being outside in the park itself.
 
My parents just did their daily walk for the first time since 23/03. They seem proper chuffed, I'm happy for them it's cheered them up for definite.
 
It seems unlikely that the virus would be easily passed from one jogger to another alright.

I wonder how much footfall at nearby shops is impacted by increasing numbers of people travelling to a busy park though? I would hazard a guess that those sort of additional contact points are more of an issue than being outside in the park itself.


The problem is if you run behind someone, or walk behind someone, and that person coughs or sneezes. You will then run directly into an aerosol cloud, if you draw breath then, you will get whatever they got.
There was an article here about that a couple of weeks ago. Other than that, it should be very safe, as long as people keep distance enough. Outside is very safe if people just keeps distance from eachother.
 
My gut feel is yes bacause we will probably be in wave 2 or 3 by then

But why not take the break and the money you would have saved stick it in a savings account and you can pay it all off in 3 months if you want but have the flexibility to dip into it if you needed it

I did wonder that but as interest still accrues in the three months I figured you’d be in a net negative if you just paid that lump sum afterwards. Could be wrong though.
 
The problem is if you run behind someone, or walk behind someone, and that person coughs or sneezes. You will then run directly into an aerosol cloud, if you draw breath then, you will get whatever they got.
There was an article here about that a couple of weeks ago. Other than that, it should be very safe, as long as people keep distance enough. Outside is very safe if people just keeps distance from eachother.

That article was based on reseaech that had not yet been peer reviewed and has been criticised a lot since. I think it was me that shared it :nervous:
 
It seems unlikely that the virus would be easily passed from one jogger to another alright.

I wonder how much footfall at nearby shops is impacted by increasing numbers of people travelling to a busy park though? I would hazard a guess that those sort of additional contact points are more of an issue than being outside in the park itself.

It might be unlikely on the basis of a single case but across an entire nation the scale causes discussion worthy transmission. Then you have to add in all the other events people tell themselves are unlikely to self-justify.
 
It seems unlikely that the virus would be easily passed from one jogger to another alright.

I wonder how much footfall at nearby shops is impacted by increasing numbers of people travelling to a busy park though? I would hazard a guess that those sort of additional contact points are more of an issue than being outside in the park itself.

Yeah, fair point. Although those shops will have to make sure customers social distance, whether they’re busy or not.

I honestly think we’re all riding the wave created when mass gatherings were still happening and social distancing wasn’t a thing, in work or at home. It’s keeping out of offices, shops, pubs, clubs and other people’s houses that’s flattened the curve. Compared to those high risk behaviours the outdoor transmission risk is basically irrelevant (IMHO)
 
Again this is all anecdotal but it reading what people are saying on here it feels that we're getting to point that we were at just before the lockdown came in. That no-mans land when the government hadn't implemented a lockdown but we were elling the public to behave like there was one.

Quarantine originated from the Italian word for 40. I think that 40 days will be the limit for most people.
 
This is what I keep seeing from Germany for weeks and people there keep saying it's not German people keeping the numbers low, also illegal hairdressing salons have been raided.

I can only think of huge testing and contact tracing so those that do get tested positive take isolation seriously while others don't. If there's any hope in loose lockdowns/ light restrictions it's 100k+ a day testing and going to homes of known contacts of positives and testing them too. Meeting the virus head on instead of waiting for it to turn up at the hospital can be a way of keeping the economy going and helping not stretch the wards.

I don't think it's been (exactly) like that for weeks. At the beginning the streets were empty, this has been a process and I remember someone linking a survey/study conducted by a German psychologist in this thread, that tracked this decline people's social distancing morale. I would guess that Easter kind of opened the floodgates, people were visiting their relatives (or saw their neighbors doing it), without the numbers exploding afterwards. Which probably gave a lot of people a sense of security.

I think the biggest problem at the moment is that everything (after the initial scare) can seem so abstract and far away. According to RKI we have just over 40k (out of 154k registered) active cases and still a net decrease (1737 new cases vs 2340 closed cases). Berlin (where one of the pictures was taken) has 5600 cases registered, if they follow the same trend as the rest of the country they have around 1.5k active cases or say round about 50 cases per 100k people, or every 2000th person infected and in that picture you have circles of say 5 to 10 people, some of them redundant as they share a household and/or exchange fluids, what are the odds of one of those people being an asymptomatic case and infecting someone else out in the open. They probably aren't afraid of contracting the virus, because for now the odds are strongly in their favour and even if they do they know they will most likely have a mild case and even if they don't they know there will be a hospital bed or ventilator available for them. I think to some degree that's just how humans are wired. Take smokers for example, they know the side effects, they know their smoke hurts people around them, including their children, the negative effects of their habit are far more present to them and far more guaranteed than a person who decides to meet friends in a Berlin park at the moment, yet they even pay significant money to keep their habit going.
Don't get me wrong I understand exponential growth and the risk (or perhaps inevitability of further waves), I keep my distance, I only meet friends online, I will wear my mask, but the immediate fear of the virus (as in me getting infected/dying) is gone as well, so while I think those people who meet up in large groups are idiots I do understand where they are coming from and I don't think you can prevent this with kind words and warnings.

I would guess that the problem is more that people don't think they are likely to catch it than thinking it can't do damage once they have got it, so I wouldn't be surprised if you're correct with your second sentence and good detection + disciplined self isolation are what are keeping down the numbers for now.
 
i watched it at start of the lockdown and couldnt believe they made a film about how this is playing out, 10 years ago

That movie wasn’t an exercise in creativity. It was one of documentation. What we’re seeing now is no surprise. Everyone knew that the ‘right’ virus could do this, and how it would play out.
 
I honestly think the rate of transmission between people passing near other people outdoors will turn out to be negligible. Certainly nowhere near high enough to merit all the angst about the increase in joggers and busy parks. Getting out and about is massively important for mental and physical health and the more healthy the general public are, the lower the mortality rate from this virus. The UK has got a lot of things wrong but I don’t have any problem with their rules around exercise.

I think the same but had a girl I know on my Facebook call me a murderer for that view. She says going out right now, for whatever reason, is equivalent to taking a knife and stabbing elderly in the back on my way. Her and her kids haven’t left home for 7 weeks, they open their window once every three days to let some air in but otherwise they don’t even use their backyard. Even when they pick up groceries which are delivered to their home they tell delivery man, from behind the door, to put them inside the house and get out quickly.
 
Does interest acrew... Thought that depended on the bank

I’m sure it does In majority of cases yes. It’s not an absolute freeze and you pick up where you left off in three months. It rolls up and your mortgage payments in three months time are increased slightly for the 3 month reduction in capital repayment.
 
I think the same but had a girl I know on my Facebook call me a murderer for that view. She says going out right now, for whatever reason, is equivalent to taking a knife and stabbing elderly in the back on my way. Her and her kids haven’t left home for 7 weeks, they open their window once every three days to let some air in but otherwise they don’t even use their backyard. Even when they pick up groceries which are delivered to their home they tell delivery man, from behind the door, to put them inside the house and get out quickly.
That's even less rational than people taking no real precautions. I'd worry about the kids.
 
What's the odds on schools being open through the normal summer holidays

I know teachers will Winge that they don't get 6 weeks off but these are exceptional circumstances and there are some practical considerations

1. Kids will have missed at least 6 weeks of professional education
2. Many parents depend on grand parents to help with care over the summer which does not seem practical once people return to work and furlough stops
3. Many people simply won't have the money for childminders having been on reduced furlough pay or reduced hours (nor will there be sufficient registered child minders to pick up the gap from what grandparents normally do)

I’ve seen this issue raised a few times now and it is significantly more complex than boiling it down to teachers “whinging”. There are huge practical and contractual considerations to consider.

Firstly, what sort of provision are you recommending? For childcare or for academic purposes? If the latter, as your first point insinuates, how does that impact upon the transition into the next academic year, particulary for primary school leavers? How does that impact upon subsequent breaks in curriculum and upcoming half terms? Or are you recommending a 21 week term? How does that impact upon the mental health and well-being of both pupils and staff? If for childcare purposes, how do schools determine which children are entitled to be there? Or are you suggesting that all pupils attend as they usually would but in a less formal setting?

How do schools ensure that their settings are adequately staffed? While teaching staff are salaried, what about the support staff, admin staff, catering staff and cleaning staff who aren’t? Teachers are a mere cog in the machine. Schools don’t function effectively without the others. If they are necessitated to be there, who pays them? Does the government fund it? I can assure you that budgets are incredibly tight.

What about parents who disagree with your suggestion entirely? Parents who have been working relentlessly during this period will have had parts of the six week break booked off with work for a long time already. Are their children forced to attend, or can they have time off to spend time with their parents? What about the teachers, particularly in secondary schools, that have been working hard to plan, mark and assess from home? Or the school staff that are still entering the school building on a fairly regular basis to provide essential childcare? Aren’t these people entitled to a degree of rest? What about school leaders, who have worked tirelessly in spite of shambolic guidance from the DfE? They earn well, but in my own context I can certainly say they’ve been worth every penny, now more than ever before. Ultimately, what about the children, who have already had their worlds turned upside-down? Is formal schooling during the summer holidays the best use of their time as they prepare to move into the next academic year?

So many considerations. Personally, I think that the academic benefit isn’t enough to support the opening of schools during the summer holidays. There is a better, more sustainable argument for the opening of schools for childcare provision, similar to the way they’re being operated right now. Some schools would be able to manage this more easily than others, as has been the case so far during the epidemic. With that, you enter the realm of unions. Why should some teaching staff work during the summer while others do not? A big can of worms in itself.

To answer your initial question: my answer would be that the odds are very, very low. But it’s an interesting suggestion and certainly one worthy of mature and complex discussion.
 
I’ve seen this issue raised a few times now and it is significantly more complex than boiling it down to teachers “whinging”. There are huge practical and contractual considerations to consider.

Firstly, what sort of provision are you recommending? For childcare or for academic purposes? If the latter, as your first point insinuates, how does that impact upon the transition into the next academic year, particulary for primary school leavers? How does that impact upon subsequent breaks in curriculum and upcoming half terms? Or are you recommending a 21 week term? How does that impact upon the mental health and well-being of both pupils and staff? If for childcare purposes, how do schools determine which children are entitled to be there? Or are you suggesting that all pupils attend as they usually would but in a less formal setting?

How do schools ensure that their settings are adequately staffed? While teaching staff are salaried, what about the support staff, admin staff, catering staff and cleaning staff who aren’t? Teachers are a mere cog in the machine. Schools don’t function effectively without the others. If they are necessitated to be there, who pays them? Does the government fund it? I can assure you that budgets are incredibly tight.

What about parents who disagree with your suggestion entirely? Parents who have been working relentlessly during this period will have had parts of the six week break booked off with work for a long time already. Are their children forced to attend, or can they have time off to spend time with their parents? What about the teachers, particularly in secondary schools, that have been working hard to plan, mark and assess from home? Or the school staff that are still entering the school building on a fairly regular basis to provide essential childcare? Aren’t these people entitled to a degree of rest? What about school leaders, who have worked tirelessly in spite of shambolic guidance from the DfE? They earn well, but in my own context I can certainly say they’ve been worth every penny, now more than ever before. Ultimately, what about the children, who have already had their worlds turned upside-down? Is formal schooling during the summer holidays the best use of their time as they prepare to move into the next academic year?

So many considerations. Personally, I think that the academic benefit isn’t enough to support the opening of schools during the summer holidays. There is a better, more sustainable argument for the opening of schools for childcare provision, similar to the way they’re being operated right now. Some schools would be able to manage this more easily than others, as has been the case so far during the epidemic. With that, you enter the realm of unions. Why should some teaching staff work during the summer while others do not? A big can of worms in itself.

To answer your initial question: my answer would be that the odds are very, very low. But it’s an interesting suggestion and certainly one worthy of mature and complex discussion.

Schools in general will be a massive problem in this country. Class sizes are already overcrowded in the high schools I know, and there's no way they can be expected to work to the social distancing guidelines when you're already ramming in 35 kids in a classroom that was built for 20 odd kids.

I do think there is credibility in the idea of a short summer school (staggered across year groups) of about 1-2 weeks to help pupils though. But as you've pointed there's a lot of work that needs to go behind it, to make it work.
 
I honestly think the rate of transmission between people passing near other people outdoors will turn out to be negligible. Certainly nowhere near high enough to merit all the angst about the increase in joggers and busy parks. Getting out and about is massively important for mental and physical health and the more healthy the general public are, the lower the mortality rate from this virus. The UK has got a lot of things wrong but I don’t have any problem with their rules around exercise.

Thing is, until we know for sure we cant say one thing is ok and another isnt.

I think we will find eventually that there was no standout method of transmission but that they all added up together. The virus is clearly very good at taking hold from the slightest exposure so you would expect somebody in the world would have figured out a hotspot by now if it were, for example, a specific supermarket where most people in a particular town were catching it.

Considering there was far less impact from SARS we still knew more about it by now than we do about Covid19.
 
Thing is, until we know for sure we cant say one thing is ok and another isnt.

I think we will find eventually that there was no standout method of transmission but that they all added up together. The virus is clearly very good at taking hold from the slightest exposure so you would expect somebody in the world would have figured out a hotspot by now if it were, for example, a specific supermarket where most people in a particular town were catching it.

Considering there was far less impact from SARS we still knew more about it by now than we do about Covid19.

This virus has only been studied for 4 months so there are huge gaps in our knowledge alright. What we do know so far indicates outdoor spread not much of an issue. The research from the town in Germany that was a hot spot is interesting. They couldn’t even find any evidence of transmission in supermarkets/hairdressers. Seemed to all come from beer houses etc during a carnival.

Drunk people packed together in large numbers seems to be the worst possible scenario for spread. Which makes sense. Handing beers to each other, sharing cigarettes, shaking hands and/or kissing hello/goodbye etc etc. Infinitely more risky than running past someone in a park. You can also see why so many people got infected at ski resorts.
 
https://www.sfgate.com/news/article...-but-Not-All-in-a-15214321.php#photo-19310196

Interesting article about a restaurant in China showing how it spread to those on the next table or two but not anywhere else. Eating, talking, laughing in the close confines indoors, like at your home with your friend round for hours is I think a major transmission. Communal areas in old people homes is sure to be a big risk with many coughing and the windows closed during March. We see on the droplet videos how simple ventilation can very quickly make all the airborne droplets leave or drop down. I think more should be done to tell people who risk having people round or large families rather than a month of washing hands and phones videos. UK also has some of the smallest homes in Europe on average.

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My local chemist serves people outside in spaced out queues rather than having them all bunched inside like usual. I was going to suggest I'd like to be served outside before seeing it already happening as it's probably a bad place to hang around inside for 10-20 mins.

I question the thinking that goes into this question; one I’ve read several times. For many, the reduction in working hours, cancelling of plans, relative confinement and potential loneliness can all strengthen the motivation to exercise and take additional care of personal health.

I’m a teacher. I’m not driving to work for half 7 each morning and I’m no longer getting back home at 7 each night. Typically, I’ve found it difficult to maintain routine outside of a fortnightly park run and a bit of five-a-side here and there. This will apply to other professions and careers, too. I’ve sacrificed my fitness and routine over the past 3-4 years and this virus has finally given me the time to prioritise being active and do more exercise.

That the country has (seemingly) taken up exercise in droves is a fantastic boost for public health in the UK. The long-term benefits of this ongoing exercise boom will significantly outweigh the consequences of the limited transmissions that take place on a narrow path.

I really hope that this pandemic has a long term positive impact upon exercise and public health in relation to exercise. It must be encouraged.

Britain does need to be healthier, hopefully it has a knock on effect. Maybe cooking and baking more at home too can help people eat better.

Exercise is great for getting out of depressive states and it's important for the body to get exercise and sunlight. I doubt transmission occurs outside if people keep a reasonable distance, I see nearly everyone doing that, should dissipate very quickly. I'll cross the road if I see a jogging train gassing up hill mind but only seen that once.
 
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