SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

The difference I observed in college was that average pot smokers inhaled less actual puffs of smoke per day than the hardcore cigarette smokers would smoke per cigarette (bong hits of high THC California pot). I counted this back then and the heavy cigarette smokers (1 pack+/day) were inhaling more puffs of smoke in a single day than the average pot smokers would take in 3-4 weeks. Even assuming the smoke is equaling damaging, the cigarette smokers were inhaling exponentially more of it and far more regularly throughout the day.

Bong hits certainly less damaging than joints, as the smoke is cooled and (partially) filtered by the water. You’re still setting stuff on fire and sucking smoke right down to the bottom of your lungs. Which is not going to do them any good, put it that way.
 
That is correct.

His insiders blame England specific procurement legislation introduced by Cameron's government. As far as I can see some people argue the legislation was introduced to combat against large scale fraud in the sector whilst others argue it's a secret Tory plot to sell off the NHS piecemeal. Fair to say its a politically emotive subject.

My question would be if it is an England specific thing then why are only some hospitals/trusts badly affected, something he acknowledges in the thread. Obviously there will be many variables affecting this but the journalist doesn't explore any of them in anyway but focuses the insiders that blame the procurement issues.

I'm not saying that the insiders are wrong in what they say, only that if there are quite a few anomalies operating under the same rules then the specifics need to be looked at.
Cheers for this.

The whole system seems a complete mess.
 
Mr. Sadeq Elhowsh an orthopaedic surgeon who worked at The Whiston Hospital, a part of St Helens and Whiston Hospitals NHS Trust, is another doctor who lost his life on the frontline today. This is the response from the hospital to the arrival of the hearse.



 
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I got the BCG in school - was this not standard for most people for many years? Perhaps this was just in NI? I honestly don't know.

Yea we did too (Manchester). I remember everyone punching each other in the arm for weeks afterwards.
 
Some countries are trying the BCG vaccine to see if it works. In theory it may work so India, Vietnam and even in UWA in Australia are trying it in trials. Incidentally in some small Asian countries everyone gets a BCG vaccine and a Polio vaccine at birth. Maldives is a good example. It looks like at this moment in time, they have about 86 confirmed cases and half are foreigners and 16 recovered and fortunately at this moment in time no deaths. But this figure is going to rise for sure as more people are tested. The good news maybe no deaths (so far). If and there is a big IF it is the BCG that seems to keep this under control then it is very good news. As far as the information I had from all these who has been tested positive only one man of 80 years is in ICU and he has had past complications of various underlying causes including a stroke and pneumonia too.
Sri Lanka has 310 positive cases and 7 deaths including some foreigners in this 7. From the 310 already 100 have recovered.
Haven't most in the UK already had that vaccine?
 
Doesn't the BCG vaccine wear off though? Thought I read this was debunked weeks ago in terms of if you had it a long time ago. Not saying a recent or new injection wouldn't help but in the UK almost every teen had it at school spanning 50 years.
 
Doesn't the BCG vaccine wear off though? Thought I read this was debunked weeks ago in terms of if you had it a long time ago. Not saying a recent or new injection wouldn't help but in the UK almost every teen had it at school spanning 50 years.
You need to get a shot after every 10-15 years.
Also India has large number of TB cases despite BCG vaccine. Before coronavirus happened, Indian Council for Medical Reasearch were carrying out survey of TB and found only 30% ( still in preliminary stage) had developed antibody as a result of vaccine. BCG is not even effective against TB for which it was created.
 
Doesn't the BCG vaccine wear off though? Thought I read this was debunked weeks ago in terms of if you had it a long time ago. Not saying a recent or new injection wouldn't help but in the UK almost every teen had it at school spanning 50 years.

BCG protects (partially) against TB only for a very long time. It also gives a short-term protection against a load of other respiratory pathogens for a short time after you get the jab. So it’s extremely unlikely that it’s protecting against covid many decades later. So yes, you’re basically correct. There’s most likely other reasons for countries which vaccinate everyone with a BCG having relatively low mortality from covid.
 
Mr. Sadeq Elhowsh an orthopaedic surgeon who worked at The Whiston Hospital, a part of St Helens and Whiston Hospitals NHS Trust, is another doctor who lost his life on the frontline today. This is the response from the hospital to the arrival of the hearse.




Tearing up watching that
 
Spain and Italy took 6-7 days to get in the 600 range from the peak of 900-1000, UK is at 12 days so far.
 
Anyone else worried about a spike in crimes if we all have to wear face-masks? :nervous:

Not a bad point, it seems homemade masks that are going to be encouraged (to protect the best ones for the NHS), so fairly soon no one will look twice at someone wearing a whole array of hand knitted mask covering most of the face, then it's certainly going to open the door to brazen crime with very little hope of using the usual ways of identifying the offender.
 
Will lockdown continue into June at this rate?
Raab and Whitty made it clear that we need to avoid a second peak so I think we will get another three weeks which will take us to the end of May, that ties in with finance support as well so I guess it make sense.
 
Any chance that the transition period could be extended? Or would the Tory cu.nts be too proud to ask?

Economy could do without it
 
Any chance that the transition period could be extended? Or would the Tory cu.nts be too proud to ask?

Economy could do without it

As a Tory we have already explicitly fecked that idea off. Cos we are fecking idiots, unfortunately. Great, innit?

We are a society that is led by people trained to lie. Not working so well at the moment. Are there apolitical things?
 
They utterly fecked up this small test study by the way, some research gimp is defo getting the sack.
The person who collected the samples didn’t realise that some now healthy Covid-19 survivors were also in there as they have donated plasma.
Shouldn’t be possible, but happened. Now they have to do the test all over again after going out to the World with the results. One of the top medical research universities in the World.
You’d almost laugh if it wasn’t so serious.

Wow, crazy.
 
As a Tory we have already explicitly fecked that idea off. Cos we are fecking idiots, unfortunately. Great, innit?

We are a society that is led by people trained to lie. Not working so well at the moment. Are there apolitical things?

I hate (strong word I know), Cameron, May, and Johnson.

The damage it's going to cause is going to be incredible. We're going to be going through the worst phase of Corona, and then drop out - at best, with a shit deal
 
“If people can fight over toilet paper in Costco, then I’ve got to think there’s a way that you can run a restaurant safely,” DeSantis said to start the meeting.

What in the absolute feck? That makes no fecking sense. "If people can breathe air, then I've got to think there's a way you can fasten shin guards to your testicles and slide safely down Mount Everest." Peak whataboutism.
 
Not a bad point, it seems homemade masks that are going to be encouraged (to protect the best ones for the NHS), so fairly soon no one will look twice at someone wearing a whole array of hand knitted mask covering most of the face, then it's certainly going to open the door to brazen crime with very little hope of using the usual ways of identifying the offender.

In my opinion the masks really should only be reserved for situations where social distancing cannot be observed and/or exposure to infected individuals is high.
 
As a Tory

You prick. Tory scum wanker. Peenarse. Away and drown some more doctors and nurses you literal Hitler supporting scum shithead cnut.

we have already explicitly fecked that idea off. Cos we are fecking idiots, unfortunately. Great, innit?

We are a society that is led by people trained to lie. Not working so well at the moment. Are there apolitical things?
Completely agree, good to see bi-partisan discussion on this forum as it gets a bit tiring seeing loons having a go at each other like we've got red or blue scarves on. You fecking peenarse
 
How is it mental?
1. It does nothing but insight fear and concern to those around him.
2. Those measures are completely unnecessary, the PPE in the hospitals doesn't stretch to needing full hazmat suit and gas mask, let alone going for a shop in Asda.
3. If he does have it and just doesn't want to spread it, he shouldn't be going to Asda.
 
You prick. Tory scum wanker. Peenarse. Away and drown some more doctors and nurses you literal Hitler supporting scum shithead cnut.


Completely agree, good to see bi-partisan discussion on this forum as it gets a bit tiring seeing loons having a go at each other like we've got red or blue scarves on. You fecking peenarse

At least I don't fly in a fecking circle if I have to choose a wing ya daft cnut :lol: