SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

1. It does nothing but insight fear and concern to those around him.
2. Those measures are completely unnecessary, the PPE in the hospitals doesn't stretch to needing full hazmat suit and gas mask, let alone going for a shop in Asda.
3. If he does have it and just doesn't want to spread it, he shouldn't be going to Asda.

I'm glad someone else sees some common sense. I'd go further and say there is certainly some nonsense being spread about masks and people are wearing them out of fear.
 
Sir Winston Churchill: "This is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end, but it's perhaps the end of the beginning."

Infectious disease expert Michael Osterholm, who has been warning for a decade and a half about the possibility of a global pandemic, says there will most likely be 800,000 COVID-deaths in the US in the next 18 months.

Fascinating interview. Sorry if already shared.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/21/opinions/bergen-osterholm-interview-two-opinion/index.html
 
1. It does nothing but insight fear and concern to those around him.
2. Those measures are completely unnecessary, the PPE in the hospitals doesn't stretch to needing full hazmat suit and gas mask, let alone going for a shop in Asda.
3. If he does have it and just doesn't want to spread it, he shouldn't be going to Asda.

we could debate 1 and 2 all day, but 3 - people need to eat. I live alone - my family are in another country and I have no neighbours. Should I die?
 
we could debate 1 and 2 all day, but 3 - people need to eat. I live alone - my family are in another country and I have no neighbours. Should I die?
No, you should have enough essentials to keep yourself fed while you self quarantine. Or try to order food for delivery.
 


If we keep on reading press releases about every single candidate getting through pre-clinical development it’s going to be a tough few years.

Think of the most excruciatingly prolonged Ronaldunho/Sneijder/Hazard to United transfer saga, only with a thousand different players linked to us, each eventually joining other clubs until only one or two are left. Over a period of several years. And those one or two players could still end up gazumped by Real Madrid after signing a Manchester United shirt and liking Pogba’s posts on Instagram.
 
we could debate 1 and 2 all day, but 3 - people need to eat. I live alone - my family are in another country and I have no neighbours. Should I die?
There's no debate about 1 and 2. It does cause concern and stoke fear walking around like that. As for 2, I get togged up in the full PPE a few times a day at the moment, so I know we don't need hazmat suits and gasmasks.

You can get friends to deliver food, you can get food deliveries, you should have enough basic essentials, this has been ongoing for a couple of months now. It's only 1 week you self quarantine for when positive. Anyway, the guy was with his (I presume) wife.
 
There's no debate about 1 and 2. It does cause concern and stoke fear walking around like that. As for 2, I get togged up in the full PPE a few times a day at the moment, so I know we don't need hazmat suits and gasmasks.

You can get friends to deliver food, you can get food deliveries, you should have enough basic essentials, this has been ongoing for a couple of months now. Anyway, the guy was with his (I presume) wife.


In the same suit?
 
If we keep on reading press releases about every single candidate getting through pre-clinical development it’s going to be a tough few years.

Think of the most excruciatingly prolonged Ronaldunho/Sneijder/Hazard to United transfer saga, only with a thousand different players linked to us, each eventually joining other clubs until only one or two are left. Over a period of several years. And those one or two players could still end up gazumped by Real Madrid after signing a Manchester United shirt and liking Pogba’s posts on Instagram.

Totally agree, but not sure about the analogy :lol:

Any new drug made has to pass the safety/efficacy clinical trials, you can't just cut straight to the endgame!
 
If we keep on reading press releases about every single candidate getting through pre-clinical development it’s going to be a tough few years.

Think of the most excruciatingly prolonged Ronaldunho/Sneijder/Hazard to United transfer saga, only with a thousand different players linked to us, each eventually joining other clubs until only one or two are left. Over a period of several years. And those one or two players could still end up gazumped by Real Madrid after signing a Manchester United shirt and liking Pogba’s posts on Instagram.
:D
 
I panic bought one of these https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B06ZY1N4K5/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1
after pogue's post and the follow-up article that someone else posted (on how covid-infected people aren't necessarily breathless, even if they're low on oxygen) last night.

No idea if it's good, bad or indifferent but it's reviews looked ok. Maybe someone who knows better could suggest a few models that look right. Please.
Arrived today, very easy/obvious to use. Says I'm currently 98/99% when resting. Which sounds good to me. Not sure if it ever says anything different, like if I was actually ill. Still, it looks good to me and told me what I was expecting to see.
 
When you want US cops to be trigger-happy, they're not. Typical...



:lol: Pack of Karens.

Third comment down is a doozy.

This is not a pack of moms out to get some air, they were there to stir shit up. This is a protest group organized by Idaho Freedom Foundation, a conservative organization, she also says at 3:55 to call Idaho Freedom Foundation. Sara Walton Brady, the woman arrested, is also the founder of the group Idahoans for Vaccine Freedom.

In 2017, she made headlines when her then-five-year-old son was denied admission into kindergarten over an immunization exemption, and she demanded a public apology from officials.

https://www.idahostatesman.com/living/health-fitness/article242188766.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...g-coronavirus-lockdown-closed-playground.html

Stupid, horrible cnuts.
 
Mr. Sadeq Elhowsh an orthopaedic surgeon who worked at The Whiston Hospital, a part of St Helens and Whiston Hospitals NHS Trust, is another doctor who lost his life on the frontline today. This is the response from the hospital to the arrival of the hearse.





I’d heard about this, it hits home. It’s my local hospital, I was born there and so was my son. My Mum (isolating, COPD) is normally there daily assessing children and my sister is now there daily after being redeployed from another care facility.

Literally spending the days crossing our fingers at this point.
 
Fecking droplets. How do they work?


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There's no debate about 1 and 2. It does cause concern and stoke fear walking around like that. As for 2, I get togged up in the full PPE a few times a day at the moment, so I know we don't need hazmat suits and gasmasks.

You can get friends to deliver food, you can get food deliveries, you should have enough basic essentials, this has been ongoing for a couple of months now. It's only 1 week you self quarantine for when positive. Anyway, the guy was with his (I presume) wife.

So he'd gone full hazmat but she hadn't?

Was she wearing a mask we at all or even looking suitably embarrassed by the whole thing?
 
You need to get a shot after every 10-15 years.
Also India has large number of TB cases despite BCG vaccine. Before coronavirus happened, Indian Council for Medical Reasearch were carrying out survey of TB and found only 30% ( still in preliminary stage) had developed antibody as a result of vaccine. BCG is not even effective against TB for which it was created.

It is 70-80% effective against the most severe forms of TB. Less so for milder strains.
 
On a side note, BCG was an absolute cnut of an injection that took ages to heal.
 
Sir Winston Churchill: "This is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end, but it's perhaps the end of the beginning."

Infectious disease expert Michael Osterholm, who has been warning for a decade and a half about the possibility of a global pandemic, says there will most likely be 800,000 COVID-deaths in the US in the next 18 months.

Fascinating interview. Sorry if already shared.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/21/opinions/bergen-osterholm-interview-two-opinion/index.html

Thank you. Great interview.
 
When you want US cops to be trigger-happy, they're not. Typical...


From the thread:
This is not a pack of moms out to get some air, they were there to stir shit up. This is a protest group organized by Idaho Freedom Foundation, a conservative organization, she also says at 3:55 to call Idaho Freedom Foundation. Sara Walton Brady, the woman arrested, is also the founder of the group Idahoans for Vaccine Freedom.
In 2017, she made headlines when her then-five-year-old son was denied admission into kindergarten over an immunization exemption, and she demanded a public apology from officials.
https://www.idahostatesman.com/living/health-fitness/article242188766.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...g-coronavirus-lockdown-closed-playground.html

fecking nutters.
 
I have been thinking about the damage that a lack of screening and elective surgeries will cause and sure enough, there is an article on it:

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-52382303

A shame there is not any hard data on expected years lost due to the coronavirus. Big-picture wise, lockdowns may actually be the greater of two evils.
 
French study on the epidemic

France has been heavily affected by the SARS-CoV-2 epidemic and went into lockdown on the 17th March 2020. Using models applied to hospital and death data, we estimate the impact of the lockdown and current population immunity. We find 2.6% of infected individuals are hospitalized and 0.53% die, ranging from 0.001% in those <20y to 8.3% in those >80y. Across all ages, men are more likely to be hospitalized, enter intensive care, and die than women. The lockdown reduced the reproductive number from 3.3 to 0.5 (84% reduction). By 11 May, when interventions are scheduled to be eased, we project 3.7 million (range: 2.3-6.7) people, 5.7% of the population, will have been infected. Population immunity appears insufficient to avoid a second wave if all control measures are released at the end of the lockdown.